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Darmian out for 2 months.So Donald Love is a starting right back for a while, and the backup on the bench will have to be from U18.

What a disaster.

At this point the top 4 is unsalvagable, they need to focus on FA cup and Europe League.
 
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Legend Incredimaria said:
Isn't Valencia nor supposed to be back by now?

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Back to full health and training. But he's had a foot injury, so it will probably take couple of weeks until he's fit enough to last full 90 minutes.
 
Love him or hate him LvG should of been sacked a long while back and he is an arrogant man, how he can come out after that game and say he is not under pressure is beyond me. That's 14 points from 13 games, absolutely awful.

He he has to go.
 
zzeezzy said:
Love him or hate him LvG should of been sacked a long while back and he is an arrogant man, how he can come out after that game and say he is not under pressure is beyond me. That's 14 points from 13 games, absolutely awful.

He he has to go.
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He will and should only be sacked at the end of the season...not now...
 
Tyton said:
You're playing every 3 days until mid March. Can't bring a new guy now, it will only make things worse. The only option is Giggs.
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Also Jose cracked because he came back from Madrid too quickly. Work hard in getting things right for him for the summer, im terms of targets and hopefully a DoF. This season you either stick with LVG or you have a laugh and give it to Giggs.
 
Tyton said:
You're playing every 3 days until mid March. Can't bring a new guy now, it will only make things worse. The only option is Giggs.
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Exactly. I'm just coming from the United channel and I see lots of comments going "sack LVG now!!!!"

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Legend Incredimaria said:
Exactly. I'm just coming from the United channel and I see lots of comments going "sack LVG now!!!!"

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Yeah I've seen idiots on reddit calling Van Gaal to "be honorable" and resign. Brilliant idea, lets bring new manager and throw him headfirst into 3 weeks of insane fixture frenzy, with no time to learn the players and prepare. I'm sure it's gonna go great.

As long as LVG didn't lose the squad, he needs to stay, that's the only sensible thing to do unfortunately.
 
Mike. said:
United need an understudy/competitor to Darmain, but slightly different (more attacking) RAFAEL

Aggressive attacking right winger, ideally two footed. NANI

Given Rooney is 31 this year, a 2nd striker. HERNANDEZ

One more CM as Carrick has a season in him. FLETCHER

a CB depending on your view of Jones EVANS

The first two are linked, because you can move Martial to 9, so not quite clear cut
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We had all them covered until the ******* decide to get rid of them all and leave us with a bare bones squad. Every single one of those players are still good enough to get into this team at the moment and do a job.
 
steveorobbo said:
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We had all them covered until the ******* decide to get rid of them all and leave us with a bare bones squad. Every single one of those players are still good enough to get into this team at the moment and do a job.
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Evans was ***** anyways. I completely agree with that one.



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steveorobbo said:
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We had all them covered until the ******* decide to get rid of them all and leave us with a bare bones squad. Every single one of those players are still good enough to get into this team at the moment and do a job.
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Rafael is the one I regret.

Hernandez was always going to leave to be a first choice striker elsewhere.

Fletcher wasn't good enough, though very happy he's still playing football.

Evans was utter pony.

Nani I'm still undecided on frankly.
 
Legend Incredimaria said:
Evans was ***** anyways. I completely agree with that one.



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Depends on your view. At one point he was consistently our best defender. And thats when we had Rio and Vidic. He just lost his way a bit when they went and he was the one that got the responsibility and he crumbled. The way Smalling has stepped up and taken command, I think Evans may have been ok playing second fiddle. Certainly a good enough back up option incase of a crisis.

He got rid of what we would call dead wood, fair enough, but when he's let go very good back up options (and for peanuts) and left the squad bare, not replaced them or at least made sure we had reliable options, and resorting to playing players out of position, he's got to be made accountable.
 
Mike. said:
Rafael is the one I regret.

Hernandez was always going to leave to be a first choice striker elsewhere.

Fletcher wasn't good enough, though very happy he's still playing football.

Evans was utter pony.

Nani I'm still undecided on frankly.
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Dont get me wrong, I HATED Nani. He's the most frustrating player ive ever seen, but maybe LVG could have sorted him out. Basically we have sold Nani (for peanuts) and bought another Nani for 3 times the price (Memphis). Im just hoping Memphis can fulfill the potential we all know he has.

Selling Rafael was idiotic. He wasnt the best defender, but again, LVG could have sorted him out in that department. He always gave 100% and could run all day.

Fletcher was/is certainly good enough to be a squad player (if he wanted to continue like that. I think he would have stayed). Calm head. Been at the club for years and knows what its all about being at the top.

Hernandez would have stayed if he would have got game time. He knew he was never going to be 1st choice. He knew that under Fergie so that doesnt really change anything. LVG just didnt like him. But if your going to sell RVP then Hernandez should have been given another year. If he bought an edequate replacement then fair enough but he didnt. He sold RVP and Hernandez, bought Martial, and plays him as a left winger. So we have our 1 and 2 both on the pitch every game. Where is the backup?

Evans - see my other post. Could have filled in at full back aswell if need be.

Obviously is great to know all this info now, and none of us could have predicted another **** storm of injuries, but facts are facts. He sold solid squad players, didnt adequately replace them, and his big masterplan was to resort to playing wingers as full backs, midfielders as defenders and strikers as wingers/midfielders.
 
steveorobbo said:
Dont get me wrong, I HATED Nani. He's the most frustrating player ive ever seen, but maybe LVG could have sorted him out. Basically we have sold Nani (for peanuts) and bought another Nani for 3 times the price (Memphis). Im just hoping Memphis can fulfill the potential we all know he has.

Selling Rafael was idiotic. He wasnt the best defender, but again, LVG could have sorted him out in that department. He always gave 100% and could run all day.

Fletcher was/is certainly good enough to be a squad player (if he wanted to continue like that. I think he would have stayed). Calm head. Been at the club for years and knows what its all about being at the top.

Hernandez would have stayed if he would have got game time. He knew he was never going to be 1st choice. He knew that under Fergie so that doesnt really change anything. LVG just didnt like him. But if your going to sell RVP then Hernandez should have been given another year. If he bought an edequate replacement then fair enough but he didnt. He sold RVP and Hernandez, bought Martial, and plays him as a left winger. So we have our 1 and 2 both on the pitch every game. Where is the backup?

Evans - see my other post. Could have filled in at full back aswell if need be.

Obviously is great to know all this info now, and none of us could have predicted another **** storm of injuries, but facts are facts. He sold solid squad players, didnt adequately replace them, and his big masterplan was to resort to playing wingers as full backs, midfielders as defenders and strikers as wingers/midfielders.
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LVG would have broken Nani I feel tbh.

Rafael, dont think anyone was happy about that. Always though he was going to get another actual RB along side Darmian, but never did which is bizarre. Rafael been pony at Lyon though. Should bring him back.

Hernandez gave a really long in depth interview. He was going either way. He really needed to play week in and wee out to "find his game" as he put it. Even rotation wasn't enough, and I dont blame him at all.

Evans, was awful all round. No regrets.

Fletcher had the know how, but no longer the ability. We miss his off field presence though.

But as you say, real issue is not filling the holes left.
 
You're making it sound as if LVG offloaded all those players purely on the basis that he didn't like their FM attributes.

He gave Evans a lot of chances and he was utter ***** every time.
Rafael was injured or booked all the time. He's not exactly setting the world on fire in Lyon either.
Hernandez had plenty of chances and done ******* nothing.
Fletcher was an amazing player in his day, but nobody gets back to his old level after such a long break from competitive play.

I could go on and on. He gave chances to most of the "deadwood" and they just didn't take them. It's up to the player to take his chance and convince the manager he's worth keeping.
 
Even if LVG performs a miracle and wins the Europa league, which I really can't see, that shouldn't save his job.
 
Tyton said:
You're making it sound as if LVG offloaded all those players purely on the basis that he didn't like their FM attributes.

He gave Evans a lot of chances and he was utter ***** every time.
Rafael was injured or booked all the time. He's not exactly setting the world on fire in Lyon either.
Hernandez had plenty of chances and done ******* nothing.
Fletcher was an amazing player in his day, but nobody gets back to his old level after such a long break from competitive play.

I could go on and on. He gave chances to most of the "deadwood" and they just didn't take them. It's up to the player to take his chance and convince the manager he's worth keeping.
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The entire first team can't even take their chances playing week in week out. We have all seen the football over the last few years and how he's tried to make us play. If the first 11 can't even get their head round it playing every week, how is somebody playing 30 or 60 minutes every now and then supposed to make any impression in the team?
 
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