The Manchester United Thread

zzeezzy said:
I still think our midfield needs work, but then again, it could be the LVG mist looming over it. At the moment it just doesn't seem to be offering much of anything. Schneiderlin has gone from one of the best midfielders in the league last season to being virtually totally anonymous in this one.

Carrick is done. Schweinsteiger is pretty much done. Herrera... I don't even know anymore. He is a decent player but I don't think much more.

I won't even mention Fellaini.....
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In what ways are these players "done"? And can you really expect too much from Herrera with a manager that under-rotates and plays him in uncomfortable positions?
 
Mike. said:
Er, no, no and definitely not. What are you on about? Carrick is still vital to use when he players, Bastian too, when he's actually allowed to get forwards and Herrera is brilliant, and the fact that he isn't playing is madness. I know you're in one of your moods, but that's actually so wrong.
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What? Schweinsteiger and Carrick are almost certainly done as players. The former is injury plagued and not near the same level of player he once was. The latter is 34, has had very little impact this season, when he has actually played, due to injuries. Why are they vital? Vital to what? A midfield that gets exposed most games?
 
Pathetic.

First off, that Will Keane change should have happened earlier, not wait til they score. Why he moved Mata into midfield though instead of Rooney I don't know, and the fact Keane spent more time on the right in the few minutes he was on is ridiculous.

Martial's finish was nice, but other than that he didn't do much. Rooney was ok in the first half, sloppy as **** in the second. Mata & Morgan were poor. Smalling needs to do better at attacking corners, & he completely abandoned Kone for their winner. Lingard and Carrick were completely awful. I've seen Memphis being criticised yet he played better than most of his teammates today, so the fans attacking him can **** off.

As for Louis, I like the guy. I didn't want his career to end with him being sacked, but missing out on the top 4 is unacceptable and right now it looks like we will. He's got to go asap.
 
United need an understudy/competitor to Darmain, but slightly different (more attacking)

Aggressive attacking right winger, ideally two footed.

Given Rooney is 31 this year, a 2nd striker.

One more CM as Carrick has a season in him.

a CB depending on your view of Jones

The first two are linked, because you can move Martial to 9, so not quite clear cut
 
zzeezzy said:
What? Schweinsteiger and Carrick are almost certainly done as players. The former is injury plagued and not near the same level of player he once was. The latter is 34, has had very little impact this season, when he has actually played, due to injuries. Why are they vital? Vital to what? A midfield that gets exposed most games?
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Yeah our win record is significantly higher when both of them play, and it was the same last season with Carrick. I'm going to ignore you till you've finished your angry rant
 
Mike. said:
United need an understudy/competitor to Darmain, but slightly different (more attacking)

Aggressive attacking right winger, ideally two footed.

Given Rooney is 31 this year, a 2nd striker.

One more CM as Carrick has a season in him.

a CB depending on your view of Jones

The first two are linked, because you can move Martial to 9, so not quite clear cut
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What do you mean depending on your view? We don't even get a ****** view on Jones because he is constantly injured. Dude how is it even a debate that we might need a CB? It's not a maybe, it has been a definite area we have needed to address season upon season. Blind is a great utility player but I bet he would offer more in midfield than what we currently have anyway.
 
zzeezzy said:
What do you mean depending on your view? We don't even get a ****** view on Jones because he is constantly injured. Dude how is it even a debate that we might need a CB? It's not a maybe, it has been a definite area we have needed to address season upon season. Blind is a great utility player but I bet he would offer more in midfield than what we currently have anyway.
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Blind's actually been excellent this season.

Do you actually watch the players you get angry about? Blind is less expansive than Carrick, though certainly fitter and is almost certainly his successor, less dynamic than BS, and isnt a destroyer.

Problem has been the same as all season, how the players are utilised.
 
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Mike. said:
Blind's actually been excellent this season.

Do you actually watch the players you get angry about? Blind is less expansive than Carrick, though certainly fitter, less dynamic than BS, and isnt a destroyer.

Problem has been the same as all season, how the players are utilised.
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I didn't say Blind hasn't been good there but I'd still like to see him in midfield, with his distribution we might actually end up going forward more times than backwards, although I wouldn't bank on it.
 
zzeezzy said:
I didn't say Blind hasn't been good there but I'd still like to see him in midfield, with his distribution we might actually end up going forward more times than backwards, although I wouldn't bank on it.
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Then play Herrera, oh wait we don't because LVG is a *********.

United need some more depth and a bit more top quality but the core of the side is being horribly underutilised. And no amount of money or signings will change that. You cannot go forwards till you change that.
 
Tyton said:
Tbh he gave Herrera a run of games and he's done absolutely nothing.
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He gets benched every time he takes risks thats why. He wants him to be a controller, hes a player takes risk with the ball to split sides.
 
when the side was put out, most people had no complaints. But how they are instructed is what's killing us, that and the fact LVG is a dead man walking
 
zzeezzy said:
Btw, back on the fullback topic. Do you think Mourinho would of gone into a season happy with having Valencia and Young as first team backups for a position they are not even specialised in? Just behind Darmian and Shaw. Neither Valencia or Young are even fullbacks anyway. I know what you're saying we have been unlucky with injuries in a way, but a manager like Mourinho would never of gone into a season considering players like Young and Valencia as adequate fullbacks. They are wingers and makeshift fullbacks at best.

As LVG has admitted, he prefers smaller tight-knit squads because he finds it hard to motivate a bigger squad of players, understandable I suppose but in the modern game it just won't work.

He will survive... because our board only cares about money and quite frankly there is nothing that will be achieved by sacking him now. It will only expose the reason why they delayed it so long if they sacked him now, of course they won't, it should of been done after the Norwich game when the season was still salvageable.
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Mourinho isn't that much of a rotator himself.

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Like I've said, blaming him for not having more depth in full back position is moronic. He had 3 players in the first squad for each side. Darmian, Valencia, Jones on the right, and Shaw, Young, Rojo on the left. That's bigger depth than most teams can even hope for. And these are all quality players, too. They're not Carvajals, but they capable enough to be United backups.

And yet with this much depth you're left playing u21 bench warmers, and with fixture congestion and possible bookings you might soon have to play people from U18.

In all my years watching football I honestly can't remember seeing that much of an injury crisis on one position, ever. Unless Mourinho knows some special massages that can turn people healthy and fit to play overnight, he wouldn't be able to do **** all about this situation. These aren't even training injuries from too much workload or whatever. It's mostly contact injuries on the pitch. Awful bad luck.
 
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Mike. said:
Blind's actually been excellent this season.

Do you actually watch the players you get angry about? Blind is less expansive than Carrick, though certainly fitter and is almost certainly his successor, less dynamic than BS, and isnt a destroyer.

Problem has been the same as all season, how the players are utilised.
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Ive been reading and liking/agreeing with your today's posts but this one really takes the biscuit. I actually think that Blind is not bad but you do realise that he's not a cb (or built like one) and would be better suited elsewhere on the pitch?!! We do need a proper cb and this is NOT a new thing as we needed same last summer (I actually think we should buy two cos of the Jones situation...).
 
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