The Manchester United Thread

[Average Joe]

We don't need people being nice and cosy, we need an edge back.

Zlatan leads from the front, he would force others to up their game out of worrying he will berate them haha. Agree completely with what you said.

I'd love him back at Milan but would also like to see him in the premier league.

How anyone could moan about a 20+ goal per season, 10+ assist per season player on a free baffles me.

He's a leader, he's a winner, you would only be paying wages and he's better than any other striker at the club

 

[zzeezzy]

He wouldnt be an automatic starter, but like Larsson would be a brilliant one season finsher, as we have lots of youth, and buys another year to sort out what we do with Rooney. You've been moaning all season we are short a forward, so when we are linked with one, you get annoyed. He'd be on a free, he can finish from just about anywhere, bring people in from anywhere, and has a confidence and arrogance this team lacks and needs. You can't have it both ways, you either in increase competition and quality, or you dont. Make up your mind, because any forward coming is going to battle with Rashford/Rooney etc.

We don't need people being nice and cosy, we need an edge back.

You're not sold on Zlatan, or Kane, despite the fact he is a mobile hard working link forward who scores hatfuls, and is young. I suspect you're not going to be happy for a long time as a United fan, no matter what we do.

Who exactly do you want up front?

I said not sold on him for the price we would pay, which would be £50m... give or take, maybe even more in this market. You can't tell me that you think he's the real deal after two seasons for that price either.

When you say 'he is free' there is a reason for this, he is past it, he is in a French league which can be deceiving as to whether they actually are good or the opponent is utter *****. (Obviously we got Martial from the French league so you know, but we also got Falcao).

Also I'm sorry but a striker like him coming in with have a definite mental effect on everyone in that squad, he has the ego size of an ocean and he will have wages which will be absurd. Him and Rooney's wages in the same squad together would be sickening alone.

I just don't get this signing and wonder why we would ever consider bringing him in at this age unless we are abandoning any of the things we have seen this season to go back in the hunt for instant success.

Reus, Aubemayang, Griezzmann, list goes on and on. These are signings that would not only come in and make an instant impact, but would also have longevity in them as well. Also they offer something totally different to the likes of Rooney for example.

If you think we'll get back to anywhere of old with players like Zlatan and Jose working together you're wrong, it will only work when things are going well, hit a patch like we have had this season and watch things implode. Zlatan won't give a **** if things don't go well, huge money and knows people don't expect him to be at his best at that age.

 

[zzeezzy]

Who are you kidding? If Zlatan comes in he is an instant starter with them wages and his reputation (he won't join any club without them assurances). Or else why the **** have him for one season? Or two at the very maximum.

Also how the **** do him and Rooney even fit in a side together.

 

[Average Joe]

When you say 'he is free' there is a reason for this, he is past it, he is in a French league which can be deceiving as to whether they actually are good or the opponent is utter *****. (Obviously we got Martial from the French league so you know, but we also got Falcao).

Past it?? 36 goals and 14 assists in 39 games.

But you will say that's easy in that league yet the next closest is Lacazzette on 14 goals...

Ibra in champions league, 8 apps, 4 goals, 3 assists.

For Sweden in 2015 he scored 11 in 10.

How the **** is he past it?

A crocked Falcao is irrelevant.

"he is in a French league which can be deceiving as to whether they actually are good" - hes been a beast for over 10 years in every league.....

 

[Mike.]

I said not sold on him for the price we would pay, which would be £50m... give or take, maybe even more in this market. You can't tell me that you think he's the real deal after two seasons for that price either.

When you say 'he is free' there is a reason for this, he is past it, he is in a French league which can be deceiving as to whether they actually are good or the opponent is utter *****. (Obviously we got Martial from the French league so you know, but we also got Falcao).

Also I'm sorry but a striker like him coming in with have a definite mental effect on everyone in that squad, he has the ego size of an ocean and he will have wages which will be absurd. Him and Rooney's wages in the same squad together would be sickening alone.

I just don't get this signing and wonder why we would ever consider bringing him in at this age unless we are abandoning any of the things we have seen this season to go back in the hunt for instant success.

Reus, Aubemayang, Griezzmann, list goes on and on. These are signings that would not only come in and make an instant impact, but would also have longevity in them as well. Also they offer something totally different to the likes of Rooney for example.

If you think we'll get back to anywhere of old with players like Zlatan and Jose working together you're wrong, it will only work when things are going well, hit a patch like we have had this season and watch things implode. Zlatan won't give a **** if things don't go well, huge money and knows people don't expect him to be at his best at that age.

You just quoted 3 forwards who will go for the same price as Kane, and only one of the is an outright CF. Reus operates from Martials position, and Griezmann between the two.

 

[Mike.]

Zlatan leads from the front, he would force others to up their game out of worrying he will berate them haha. Agree completely with what you said.

I'd love him back at Milan but would also like to see him in the premier league.

How anyone could moan about a 20+ goal per season, 10+ assist per season player on a free baffles me.

He's a leader, he's a winner, you would only be paying wages and he's better than any other striker at the club

it's ZZ.

 

[zzeezzy]

Past it?? 36 goals and 14 assists in 39 games.

But you will say that's easy in that league yet the next closest is Lacazzette on 14 goals...

Ibra in champions league, 8 apps, 4 goals, 3 assists.

For Sweden in 2015 he scored 11 in 10.

How the **** is he past it?

A crocked Falcao is irrelevant.

"he is in a French league which can be deceiving as to whether they actually are good" - hes been a beast for over 10 years in every league.....

Falcao had good stats in the French league, even after the ACL, like 6 goals in 8 games I'm sure it was in the last few months at the end of that season before he joined us.

But anyway, everything about this signing I just don't like, stats may be great in a team which is far superior to anything else in a mediocre French league but for me I just don't understand this signing.

Like I say, PL will be a whole new challenge for Zlatan, physically nothing else compares and if things don't go well he will start moaning. His ego in that dressing room scares me, when you have such composed and level headed young players it could have a detrimental effect.

Having players with an edge to them and that fight to win is one thing, but Zlatan is another.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Hope for your sake if Ibrahimovic is signed he doesn't go the same way as your last 'experienced' signing .....

Presume your, uhmmm, 'tubby' German has discovered the delights of Manchester chop houses his time out? Man has he been eating well haha.

 

[Mike.]

We talk about egos. Anyone remember the players of 2006-2009? Our front three was ego city in Rooney/Ronaldo/Tevez

 

[Mike.]

Hope for your sake if Ibrahimovic is signed he doesn't go the same way as your last 'experienced' signing .....

Presume your, uhmmm, 'tubby' German has discovered the delights of Manchester chop houses his time out? Man has he been eating well haha.

No it's what happens when you are a high running player and you can't work out for weeks. Will disappear after a few weeks of being back in training

 

[Mike.]

Falcao had good stats in the French league, even after the ACL, like 6 goals in 8 games I'm sure it was in the last few months at the end of that season before he joined us.

But anyway, everything about this signing I just don't like, stats may be great in a team which is far superior to anything else in a mediocre French league but for me I just don't understand this signing.

Like I say, PL will be a whole new challenge for Zlatan, physically nothing else compares and if things don't go well he will start moaning. His ego in that dressing room scares me, when you have such composed and level headed young players it could have a detrimental effect.

Having players with an edge to them and that fight to win is one thing, but Zlatan is another.

PL would be a new challenge to the 3 you just mentioned. Not liking a player is one thing, but at least try and base it on something substansial.

 

[Mike.]

Falcao is done as a player, comparing anyone to him is actually ridiculous.

 

[zzeezzy]

We talk about egos. Anyone remember the players of 2006-2009? Our front three was ego city in Rooney/Ronaldo/Tevez

To be fair that isn't entirely true, well Ronaldo has always had an ego, it has grown with age so to speak. During them years he will still not the finished article and still had a lot to prove. You only saw glimpses of his ego back then.

Never really considered Rooney to be someone with an especially big ego given his success and Tevez well.. not sure really.. one of the most hard working players I've seen on his day and I only really discovered his true colours at City.

 

[zzeezzy]

Falcao is done as a player, comparing anyone to him is actually ridiculous.

Done but still got goals in French league, even after ACL.

 

[Mike.]

To be fair that isn't entirely true, well Ronaldo has always had an ego, it has grown with age so to speak. During them years he will still not the finished article and still had a lot to prove. You only saw glimpses of his ego back then.

Never really considered Rooney to be someone with an especially big ego given his success and Tevez well.. not sure really.. one of the most hard working players I've seen on his day and I only really discovered his true colours at City.

All three of them had egos. Ferguson made sure no one matched his, simple as that. Tevez didnt suddenly morph at City like they are some evil side, he was always like that. Kidding yourself if you think United havent had egos at our club through our time.

 

[Mike.]

Done but still got goals in French league, even after ACL.

Not even close to the same level, length or consistency or number as Zlatan, on either stage.

 

[zzeezzy]

All three of them had egos. Ferguson made sure no one matched his, simple as that. Tevez didnt suddenly morph at City like they are some evil side, he was always like that. Kidding yourself if you think United havent had egos at our club through our time.

Of course we have but explain to me how Zlatan and Rooney work together in this team. They don't fit on the field and neither will be benched without causing problems, especially Zlatan.

 

[MANUMAD]

And Leicester at top of the league with 5 points ahead? This season can go even more crazier.

No Im with razielioux here. ****** will be slaughtered by PSG with that defence and Caballero for example.

 

[Mike.]

Of course we have but explain to me how Zlatan and Rooney work together in this team. They don't fit on the field and neither will be benched without causing problems, especially Zlatan.

That's for the manager to deal with. I mean you realise, the minute we sign any leading striker that debate will happen.

He's 35, Rooney is 30. We're going to have at least 50 games next season.

We've done it with 4 strikers before. Think we can do it with 3

 

[Tyton]

Zlatan and Van Gaal in the same club. Ego clash of the century.