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That's a matter of opinion. I don't quite see how this isn't ridiculously impressive for Zlatan? A goal away from equalling Messi's 2016 club tally.
 
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It would be unfair to count international goals when Messi plays for Argentina and Zlatan for ****** Sweden!

To be honest whether he's this or that or what ever else, I think we can all agree that Zlatan has been great this year. I certainly doubted whether he could cut it in the PL at his age and if he had a dip in form if he could rise again before he joined us.
 
I don't quite see what the argument is, at first it was that the stats were unclear from a different source, which was rectified, so from here in I'm clueless.

Even if he doesn't score, to say only Lionel Messi scored more club goals than you in the calendar year, for a 35 YEAR OLD, is incredible.
 
Really not sure what the debate is tbh. Whatever metrics you use, he's had an astounding year.
 
How? The stats are spot on.

Except they're arbitrarily excluding some of the goals because it doesn't fit the narrative. It's common sense that calendar year summaries should count every competition, not the lets count this and that but not this because our guy isn't high enough.

I've had Zlatan on 15-20 goals and he's well on track to get there by mid season. He's had such great year especially for a guy he's age, there's no need to inflate it further with balooney statistics.
 
Except they're arbitrarily excluding some of the goals because it doesn't fit the narrative. It's common sense that calendar year summaries should count every competition, not the lets count this and that but not this because our guy isn't high enough.

I've had Zlatan on 15-20 goals and he's well on track to get there by mid season. He's had such great year especially for a guy he's age, there's no need to inflate it further with balooney statistics.

They did include every competition. Nobody has ever said anything other than "club" tally. It's not as if he's getting some official award for it, just getting acknowledged for the possible achievement.
 
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and that but not this because our guy isn't high enough..

Tbh, that's how it feels to go in and dig out international stats to enhance Messi & Suarez, so no matter what way you look at it, there's an argument.

They're all world class, end of.
 
Tbh, that's how it feels to go in and dig out international stats to enhance Messi & Suarez, so no matter what way you look at it, there's an argument.

They're all world class, end of.

This is getting beyond silly.

Spain doesn't have a third cup competition like France and England so do you exclude the League Cup from anyones year too? Where do you stop?

I wasn't 'digging out' anything. I think my query on what I couldn't understand with Suarez's numbers not stacking up that had me looking at the other two was quite clear.

Nobody is questioning Ibrahimovic's or anyone else's 2016.
 
I'd guess that international goals don't count as you usually have euro's, copa americas and african cup of nations for example in different years so each year one person gets some extra games to bag goals in that the others don't based on where their from.

Also level of competition it would be unfair as if someones national team played San Marino twice and a couple of the other poor teams that have amateur and semi pro players you can get in European qualifying they should get a lot of goals where as the opposition in South American qualifying is all fully professional teams.
 
Oh ****** off everyone. Basic point is that Ibra has had an astounding year. End of.
 
..... Also level of competition it would be unfair as if someones national team played San Marino twice ..... .

Unrelated but a useful bridge to segue to FM ..... I'm starting a San Marino career save. Haven't played the game in forever, but I decided to kill some time whilst I have it and do one big career save. Starting at the very bottom with the lowest ranked UEFA league and the only club in that league to of never won any silverware seemed as good a base to work up from.
 
Tbh, that's how it feels to go in and dig out international stats to enhance Messi & Suarez

Posting complete stats for the calendar year does not "enhance" anything, that's just what real stats look like.

It would be unfair to count international goals when Messi plays for Argentina and Zlatan for ****** Sweden!

Life's not fair.
 
For what it's worth, most statistics worth their salt either use league goals only, or all club competition goals, they don't combine club and international goals
 
Zlatan is a beast and I had no doubt he would smash in a decent amount at United.

Shame he wasn't here 7 odd years ago but ****, how many 35 year olds could come to the Premier League and keep up such a great scoring rate?
 

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