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Thought the subs were great again today. Especially Lingard and Herrera. Brought us back control of the game! 4-0 with no Pogba and still Shaw, Rojo and Zlatan to come back (6)
 
Scoreline flattered but a win is a win, don't ever complain at that.

Rashford had an off day, he is perfectly entitled to. Everyone in our team was pretty decent.

It was a great time to play Everton, as predicted.
 
Lukaku summed it up perfectly. " the defence and GK are playing well, and gives us confidence to score, and get results."

Jose also saying about Pogba he doesn't know it's 12 weeks so how do you media know :)
 
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RhQQ said:
Tbf I've rarely ever seen huge fees spent shrewdly when used to sign numerous players.

Spurs with the Bale money, Liverpool with the Suarez money, now Everton with Lukaku's. All left a bit to be desired
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They'd already spent over £80 million prior to the Lukaku sale. They spent the early part the window crowing about how the 'Merseyside Millionaires' (STOP laughing at the back) where the new force in town.

With no intention of selling him unless the £100 million fee was met they stuck to.

Koeman and Walsh, who's as big a problem in recruitment as anyone, just spent the TV money terribly.
 
Know it's early but what we needed to happen from last season. With Mky, Rashford, Martial all needing to step up with goals and assists looking good at the min. Goals alround the pitch atm.
 
Theatre of dreams said:
Thought the subs were great again today. Especially Lingard and Herrera. Brought us back control of the game! 4-0 with no Pogba and still Shaw, Rojo and Zlatan to come back (6)
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I was crying out for Herrera in 2nd half, we needed that energy.. The game looked closer to 1-1 than 4-0 at that point haha. XD
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
It's the classic buying all the same players/ not the ones you require for the system you insist on playing and leaving your squad completely unbalanced.

They have better quality, if inexperienced, options from their quality U-23's side in a few of those roles.

*Edit* When you're having to bring Niasse back into the first team picture because you're so short of CF's it say's it all.
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A bit like United for the last few seasons we all knew a decent DM, CB and CFwd were needed but Van Gaal seemed to just want wingers and attacking CM
 
Definitely TOD. As Neville also pointed out, nice to see Lukaku look for the pass there instead of the glory; some, particularly from the blue half of merseyside, will tell you he's an unintelligent, non-team player, with a poor touch.

Is his link-up underrated? Can't think of many (bar Kane and Firmino) who does it better in the league as centre forwards? He has a very unfair and misguided reputation of being a donkey in this side of the game
 
What a day.
4 nil win for United and three in a row all Ireland championship for Dublin :)
 
RhQQ said:
Definitely TOD. As Neville also pointed out, nice to see Lukaku look for the pass there instead of the glory; some, particularly from the blue half of merseyside, will tell you he's an unintelligent, non-team player, with a poor touch.

Is his link-up underrated? Can't think of many (bar Kane and Firmino) who does it better in the league as centre forwards? He has a very unfair and misguided reputation of being a donkey in this side of the game
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I think you are overselling pass, 3 defenders in front, Miki off to the side it was glaringly obvious I'd have seen it.

His linkup play is underrated due to the amount of times he loses the win/ball into him and hold up so doesn't get to do it. Most of the criticism that Shearer launched at Benteke last night can be level at Rom when hes not on it, or anonymous in games for the most part. He should be bullying teams with he back to goal for his size and power, as well as getting on the end of stuff in behind.

When he does he's unstoppable, and then you see games/halves where you think "what is the ******* point of you, do him you big *******!"

Aguero/Jesus/Kane/Salah/Sanchez/Firmino/Mane/Hazard/Morata/Costa you can almost put any of them if/when they play on a front 3/2/1 have a better pass/vision on the ball than him... but he doesnt need it, he's there to be the focal point, the rest can look for the fancy pass, if hes ever hitting a pass over 10yrds, someone ****** up. His pass completion is 70%, only De Gea is lower in the squad.

The final ball was poor a fair few times by most of the front line today, even Mata missed a couple that would have put Rom in acres on his own in the box... odd game, couple of decent saves early in the 2nd from Dave. Everton concede a 2nd and then fold up. Koeman next for the chop? Who the **** would take the job?

Edit: **** didnt realise i'd typed that much, can you tell i was bored? :lol sorry guys
 
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Obvious, yes. But already 1-0 up, against your old club in which you've got some crowd stick, turned in onto his stronger foot, I anticipated a shot tbh.

Only 4 of those names you mentioned are strikers that I haven't already though. I'd argue his link up play is as effective as Aguero's or Morata's. Aguero's just looks better because he's small & nippy, not a 6'3, 15 stone black man (truth hurts, as Mike shared on here a while back, Pogba doesn't get recognized enough for the technical side of his game, just 'powerful'). Costa isn't a bad shout, holds it up and links up as well if not better than Lukaku, but he doesn't exist in the league anymore for me. Jesus looks a classy all round striker though.
 
RhQQ said:
Obvious, yes. But already 1-0 up, against your old club in which you've got some crowd stick, turned in onto his stronger foot, I anticipated a shot tbh.

Only 4 of those names you mentioned are strikers that I haven't already though. I'd argue his link up play is as effective as Aguero's or Morata's. Aguero's just looks better because he's small & nippy, not a 6'3, 15 stone black man (truth hurts, as Mike shared on here a while back, Pogba doesn't get recognized enough for the technical side of his game, just 'powerful'). Costa isn't a bad shout, but he doesn't exist in the league anymore for me. Jesus looks a classy all round striker though.
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Most are wingers to be fair, its only the 433 system that puts em on the front line.

He's a poor passer but who the **** needs him to do that with the midfield/winger combinations around him. You just go make CB's cower lad, we'll do the football stuff. :D

Really, who doesnt rate Pogba's techincal game? At Juve it was what was most impressive. Its the power/pace side of his game i thought needed the work, but i expected a "2014 Toure-esque, all power no bollox Box to Box Midfield" role, as it is he's playing rolls royce football swanning about now Matic is here, killin teams.
 
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Oh yeah, I wouldn't say he's a quality passer, but his little sharp one touch lay-off's, the awareness where players are around him etc. goes underrated.
 
Hope to see tomorrow players rested but a strong 11!

Romero
Darmian-Smalling-Lindelöf-Shaw
Carrick-Herrera
Young-Mata-Lingard
Martial

Subs- Joel,Blind,Fellaini,Rashford,Tuanzebe,Mky

Hard to choose McTominey, Mitchel etc as the u23s play Chelsea tonight. Will give a good indication on Shaws involvement.
 
No Shaw or McTominey in the u23s squad tonight! Which is-

Ohara
Riley-Olosunde-Warren-Mitchel
Whelan-Hamilton
Dearnley-Buffonge-Kehinde
Wilson

Subs- Kenyon, Richardson, Bohui, Boonen, Sang.

Good team but Kehinde should be in his natural role in CM instead of Hamilton. And Bohui or Boonen should be on the left. Great to see Buffonge and Dearnley starting. Big surprise to see Chelsea and especially City really struggling at this level.
 
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0-1 at HT. cracking goal from Kehinde! Hamilton has got to be one of the worst CMs I've seen at youth level at Utd. Shape a lot better this match. But not much from either team in an attacking sense, maybe Chelsea edging it.

0-2 Wilson. Make that 1-2 :( Finished 2-2 list control of the game after the second goal. Especially Hamilton giving the ball away. And Olosunde exposed at CB
 
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Starting to have my doubts about Sbragia and what he's going to bring to the u23 set up. And this after initially being happy with the appointment. He's got a better set of players and a better balanced team the Joyce. Thought he was going going to carry on where Joyce left on, in terms of being a well drilled disciplined team but bring a slightly better forward game. But if truth be told we look a lot worse.

Under Joyce you knew what you were gonna get. Despite a depleted team and very unbalanced squad, you knew with what he had the team would be set up well tactically and very hard to beat physically and mentally and still drag out good results. You also knew he coached the players very well mentally to not be phased by a call up to the first team no matter there ability as a player.

Under Sbragia it just looks so in organised all over the pitch and the first sign of any presssure or concede a goal and the lads just fall to pieces mentally and tactically. Have to give him time, but early signs aren't good. Especially with the players he has. Should definitely be showing a lot more and doing a lot better.

Another worry is after this season when our next golden generation of u18s gets promoted together, is that under McKenna they play a high tempo, pressing, attacking game of football. Well Sbragia just isn't that type of manager/coach. If this continues with the current lot of u23s, then I worry for our u18s next season after they get promoted. Ideally looking back would of liked **** to carry on this season with the u23s. Then promoted McKenna with the u18s players next season. And replace him with a similar type of manager.
 
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