The Manchester United Thread

Meh not fussed about a women’s team tbh. Obviously would support it if there was one. But don’t think a lot of match day going fans are to fussed either tbh. Was a survey on reddit a while back and out of thousands only a few wanted one. And FTD went round Manchester asking fans if they would be interested in it and not many were either. Some said would be nice but not fussed. Can’t see Utd fans going to support City instead just because they have a women’s team.
 
You can't see local, younger girls, future football supporters, who maybe want to/ do play themselves, favouring City as they can go there to a brilliant set-up connected to the ground watch live woman's football?

That's a whole demographic of support Utd potentially lose out on by refusing to move with the times.
 
Not to mention the message it sends out. Manchester United which likes to bill itself as the 'biggest football club in the world' who can 'break the world record transfer fee at will' don't see the point of having a womens team because it apparently is not commercially viable for them.

Not only does it send out an absolutely terrible message, it also alienates an entire demographic of potential supporters as Scouse pointed out. As the entire world is moving towards encouraging women to break into male dominated professions and break apart gender stereotypes of what a woman can or cannot do, United are still stuck in the 19th century in this regard.
 
Theatre of dreams said:
Was a survey on reddit a while back and out of thousands only a few wanted one.
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That settles it then.
If a load of illiterate gobshites on Reddit turned off the paedo Anime and put their ***** down long enough to vote on a poll, United will simply have to listen.
 
We should absolutely have one. We had one until the Glazers dismantled it in 2005, but before then they were good. Our girls academy was also really good too. And we still have a girls team till 18. It's a no brainer on both a sporting and commercial level.
 
Mike. said:
We should absolutely have one. We had one until the Glazers dismantled it in 2005, but before then they were good. Our girls academy was also really good too. And we still have a girls team till 18. It's a no brainer on both a sporting and commercial level.
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Yeah seen the girls a couple of times. Thought the last time we had a ladies team was 89/90?
 
Anthony said:
That settles it then.
If a load of illiterate gobshites on Reddit turned off the paedo Anime and put their ***** down long enough to vote on a poll, United will simply have to listen.
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You didn’t honestly think the Glazers owned Utd did you? ;)

In other news. The u18s play Newcastle today at 13:00 at the cliff. Surprise surprise it’s not being shown on MUTV :(
 
Today could be a very strong indication of our title credentials, Southampton away is a fixture many slip up in.
 
Just hope we stick with 4-2-3-1. I'd understand where he's coming from if he decides to match their 3, but I'd much prefer us to just go all out on the front foot. I think we showed Stoke too much respect, instead of just going there approaching them with a 'we're solid at the back and midfield, so our front 4 is just going to torture you' mentality like we have every other game this season.

Don't get me wrong, I'd completely get him opting for more solidarity in away games, especially tricky ones like this, but I think attack is the best form of defence in some cases.

I'd personally 4-2-3-1 in something like this:

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Get the early goal(s), take Mata off for Herrera in a switch to 4-3-3 later. Then be solid, see it out. But think we need to hit the ground running; we're the team they have to think about.
 
Pretty much Rhqq, I'll be highly disappointed if we don't win this one, they have already been beaten by Watford and ****** Wolves at home this season. Albeit in a diff comp with Wolves, but Southampton are a shadow of what they were and they honestly have no standout players to my eye.
 
Their standout feature is their overall workrate. They're gritty. Need to be wary on the break; Shane Long will chase everything down, but in Bailly we have the most counter-resistant CB in the league imo.
 
Alc said:
Not to mention the message it sends out. Manchester United which likes to bill itself as the 'biggest football club in the world' who can 'break the world record transfer fee at will' don't see the point of having a womens team because it apparently is not commercially viable for them.

Not only does it send out an absolutely terrible message, it also alienates an entire demographic of potential supporters as Scouse pointed out. As the entire world is moving towards encouraging women to break into male dominated professions and break apart gender stereotypes of what a woman can or cannot do, United are still stuck in the 19th century in this regard.
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You know what would be most effective in promoting women's football? Making them play on smaller pitches and with smaller goals. There's no commercial viability because female version of the sport looks like an abomination. There's no speed, no dynamism, half the goals that go in look completely retarded because goalkeeper is 5 foot tall, it's like watching u17 boys in slow motion.

Sport is entertainment. You can plaster women empowerment slogans all over Old Trafford, but even the best social messaging isnt' going to make people turn on the telly if the games are ******* boring.

But of course current political climate requires us to make everything equal even when it makes zero sense. So instead of adjusting the rules of the sport to make it more commercially successful and better for everybody involved, we have social activists trying to shame clubs into starting a female team that won't be actually watched by anybody except some masturbators who might tune-in on the telly if **** hub is down.

Sigh.
 
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Big Pole. I love you man but I'd beg to differ. The Womas Super League games can be a real fun watch with no little skill. And the standard at International level is real high.

Not that I'm an avid watcher like but the woman's game has come on leaps and bounds over the last 10 years. Skill wise some of them put their male counterparts to shame.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Big Pole. I love you man but I'd beg to differ. The Womas Super League games can be a real fun watch with no little skill. And the standard at International level is real high.

Not that I'm an avid watcher like but the woman's game has come on leaps and bounds over the last 10 years. Skill wise some of them put their male counterparts to shame.
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If you love football, any game is fun to watch. I've been to 5th division games that had cows chewing grass near the "stadium" and it was still fun. But could those games compete commercially with the top divisions? Not in a hundred years. You can't wish a sport into popularity or shame people into watching because it's socially responsible or some such nonsense. Women's football has it particularly bad because it has to compete with 40+ leagues that are all of superior quality.

The choice is really to either change the rules and have it become a sport that is actually popular and respected, or not change the rules and pat ourselves on the back about how progressive we are, while female players will continue to earn peanuts and will only be watched by members of their extended family.

****, let me tell you a story.

My uncle is a female volleyball coach, right? He worked at a top division level for 30 odd years and I got to see a lot of games because I had free tickets. Way back in a day it was a pariah of a sport. TV wouldn't show it, radio wouldn't do live transmissions, arenas were empty. Monday newspapers would print couple of lines about a weekend result, and that was about all the media coverage you could have hoped for.

Then, one day, the league made one rule change. Suddenly sponsors start pouring in, TV channels would fight bid wars for the broadcasting rights, arenas were full. The girls started to make serious money, and likewise, my uncle became somewhat wealthy in his later years.

Care to take a guess what that rule change was? It was a change in volleyball kits.

Instead of wearing those half-leggins that end above the knee, the girls were required to wear tight little shorts that barely even cover the ****. In the end it didn't matter much how good they are, how skillful they are, the key thing was to show a bit of ***.
 
RhQQ said:
Do think they need to decrease the goal size at least. Amount of 'wonder goals' that are scored because the keeper may not have even been in nets.

u15 boys often beat senior women national teams. Not sexist, just facts
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It's nothing new that boys beat women. In field hockey our dutch female NT (top in the world) often practice against u18 and u16. They practice against the boys because they're more physical. However in field hockey the women are tacticly as good as the men. The game still goes quickly. I'd reckon they might be mentally stronger than men (atleast if I compare to the dutch NT). Technically they're limited because they don't have as much power as men, but at what they do they're still great.

At volleyball they atleast do change the field. The net is about 40 cm lower I believe.

I did follow the european womens football cup, because it was in The Netherlands. And the level was obvious lower. Most teams don't dare to play attacking football, because keepers are bad at catching high balls. So they rather just hoof up the ball and hope the keeper ***** up. These things however could be solved pretty easy. If they start developing GK's earlier they get used to all different aspects of football and situations they get into. Altough right now there is too little competition to reach a higher level.

Often in the youth girls aren't allowed to be in the same team as with boys, altough -u10 there isn't much difference physically yet. And those early years are super important to develop your ball feeling.

Right now best thing they could do is keep investing in women's football, specially in youth trainers. Allow girls at young age to play with boys. Change the field probably and maybe the goal, like they do at youth level, since it is obvious that women physically can't compete with men. If it will happen I don't know. The football world is super conservative.
 
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