The Manchester United Thread

[Scouseinthehouse]

You know exactly what you're taking on when you hire Mourinho z. You're sacrificing, in your case, this perceived 'Utd way' of playing attacking footy for results. He try's to win in a different way and that ain't ever changing.

I feel yer as it would bore the living P out of me most weeks watching it. But it is what it is. You accept the trade-off in the hope it brings silverware or you don't employ him the first place.

Can't have it all ways. He got Lorded in here for a 'tactical masterclass' the UEFA Cup final last year. (Not sure if that was you?). When he defended deep and hit on the break against Ajax's U-9's. His standard MO. Nothing 'masterful' about it

You want him and the hope of more trophies, you take the bad with the good.

 

[zzeezzy]

You know exactly what you're taking on when you hire Mourinho z. You're sacrificing, in your case, this perceived 'Utd way' of playing attacking footy for results. He try's to win in a different way and that ain't ever changing. I feel yer as it would bore the living P out of me most weeks watching it. But it is what it is. You accept the trade-off in the hope it brings silverware or you don't employ him the first place.

He has to win something this season and a major trophy at that. Even if he makes top 4 it's a failed season if we don't.Next season should be his last if he doesn't deliver anything again. I personally don't want him long-term at all. I want someone with a greater vision and philosophy for our team.

 

[Mike.]

You know exactly what you're taking on when you hire Mourinho z. You're sacrificing, in your case, this perceived 'Utd way' of playing attacking footy for results. He try's to win in a different way and that ain't ever changing.

I feel yer as it would bore the living P out of me most weeks watching it. But it is what it is. You accept the trade-off in the hope it brings silverware or you don't employ him the first place.

We haven't played good football for about 6 years. The "United" was about whipped crosses. A game style which moyes actually tried to copy and was destroyed for.

We're actually scoring more than we have done for a long time. Only 2 of Ferguson title winning team have ever had more points at this stage. People are being incredibly greedy considering just how bang average we had been since our last title win.

 

[zzeezzy]

Scoring more against smaller teams* No one questions our approach in those games.It's the big games where we keep stifling ourselves and not letting the horses run free that is costing us.

 

[djs1]

city are a better side,better quality players almost all over the pitch imo.Badly missed pogba but would he have made enough of a difference,i doubt it

 

[Mike.]

Scoring more against smaller teams* No one questions our approach in those games.It's the big games where we keep stifling ourselves and not letting the horses run free that is costing us.

And you want to replace him with Poch, who is actually worse in the big games?

 

[Mike.]

The only manager I would be interested in is at Napoli

 

[zzeezzy]

And you want to replace him with Poch, who is actually worse in the big games?

I want Mourinho to actually treat us like a side that is capable of beating a big team. That's not too much to ask. We've spent hunderds of millions and have a lot of quality players. What does it take for Mourinho to let us off the shackles just a bit? Pogba? We're a one man team at the moment, but even with him the approach yesterday would of been the same. We may of been a bit more effective but Pogba would of been negated a lot himself in those tactics.

 

[Theatre of dreams]

You know exactly what you're taking on when you hire Mourinho z. You're sacrificing, in your case, this perceived 'Utd way' of playing attacking footy for results. He try's to win in a different way and that ain't ever changing.

I feel yer as it would bore the living P out of me most weeks watching it. But it is what it is. You accept the trade-off in the hope it brings silverware or you don't employ him the first place.

Can't have it all ways. He got Lorded in here for a 'tactical masterclass' the UEFA Cup final last year. (Not sure if that was you?). When he defended deep and hit on the break against Ajax's U-9's. His standard MO. Nothing 'masterful' about it

You want him and the hope of more trophies, you take the bad with the good.

Thats a good post tbh. The so called Utd way is overstated and has been even in Fergies last 2-3 years. It’s been ages since we’ve played good football and scored so many goals.

I knew new what we were getting with Mourinho. A winner that will score and win games against the rest, and do anything possible against his rivals. Done it Porto, done it at Madrid, done at Chelsea both times, done it at Milan. Oh shock he’s doing it now.

We have defo progressed under Mourinho a lot. Yes there is room for improvement no doubt. Won us 3 trophies first season. And has is looking at 2 place finish in the league atm after finishing 6th. We’re still in all cups and dominated our CL group with our highest points total ever in a group.

like you said you take the ruff with the smooth! This is not an excuse just an opinion of mine. That he wouldn’t have bought half the players in this squad. That’s spread over 4 different managers.

And we drew Sevilla in the CL next round

 

[RhQQ]

Decent draw.

 

[zzeezzy]

city are a better side,better quality players almost all over the pitch imo.Badly missed pogba but would he have made enough of a difference,i doubt it

Only thing that would of made big enough of a difference in that game is if Pep was our manager and Jose was theirs. Sad but true.That's not to say that I'm all against Mourinho now because I'm not. But his continous pitfall is the approach against the big teams and when he deserves criticism, it has to be given.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Don't actually think Sevilla are that good a side compared to the three straight Europa winners. We should have blammend them twice. They are a heck of a great home crowd though. Once they get a sniff of something, it's like Anfield in Europe. Real imposing place. Not hard to see why the Spanish National team invariably goes there in any 'must win' games.

Best place in Spain to visit IMHO. Brilliant place with brilliant people. And cheap as chips. Just the Seville **** Robocop bizzies that batter F out of yers the ground that's the problem.

 

[Bujakaa92]

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[woolly]

Your better example, for this thread, would be '85's Utd vintage that won the first 10 games and finished well off the pace.

But this City side isn't either of those. Thos is a top, TOP outfit. This City side can be in cruise control the rest of the year and still comfortably win the league.

Either instance would be valid to be fair but then you can also consider the last game of the '88-'89 season when a miracle happened and a team which had dominated for over a decade fell back to earth with a bump Miracles do happen and the Press usually get it wrong (Mind you to be honest this City team will win it but it won't be by anywhere as big a gap as there is now, they aren't invincible the Ukranines proved that last week outside the main first teamers there is a lack of depth in the squad).

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

The FA F-ed us over in '89 by not extending the season after Sheffield. 18 points behind Arsenal we came back from with the game's in hand and barely didn't not win, never mind lose, from the defeat Utd NY's day until that last Friday. The most emotional of emotional Cup Final's the Sat'day. West Ham the Tuesday. Then Arsenal the Friday. Ridiculous final week.

But the chasing pack aren't like that side. And this City team is far better than Graham's first Arsenal side. As good as they were before he bizarrely went the other way and uber-defensive.

It'd take one almighty collapse of epic proportions. And that's before you even start on whether anyone else can go sustain a run to catch them.

 

[Theatre of dreams]

Only thing that would of made big enough of a difference in that game is if Pep was our manager and Jose was theirs. Sad but true.That's not to say that I'm all against Mourinho now because I'm not. But his continous pitfall is the approach against the big teams and when he deserves criticism, it has to be given.

Yeah you can criticise. But you can’t deny it wins him a **** load of trophies. And his teams usually top points and goal scoring in the league when he does.

 

[djs1]

we have looked far more dangerous playing with three at the back recently but yesterday was so dissapointing although it was clear for all to see that city are far superior.Definitely improving under mourinho and he will continue to make us better but city will get stronger too.Really like mourinho but i would like to see abit more ambition against the big teams for sure

 

[steveorobbo]

The thing that ****** me off yesterday was we didnt play to our starting 11's strengths at all and played right into city's hands. We start with Martial, Rashford and Lingard and all we did was hoof it up playing long ball. I wouldnt mind if the ball was played over the top for the quick players to run on to. It was literally hoofed high in the air meaning if lukaku doesnt get a flick on then our quick players are taken out of the game. That first half we played like we had Lukaku, Ibra and Fellaini all up front.

Even if he wanted to defend, the obvious thing NOT to do is give that City side the ball and the majority of it. But hopelessly hoofing it up just gave them possession back straight away every single time. Seriously why start all them quick players if that was the game plan because I didnt understand them tactics one bit with the players we had on the field?

 

[Mike.]

The thing that ****** me off yesterday was we didnt play to our starting 11's strengths at all and played right into city's hands. We start with Martial, Rashford and Lingard and all we did was hoof it up playing long ball. I wouldnt mind if the ball was played over the top for the quick players to run on to. It was literally hoofed high in the air meaning if lukaku doesnt get a flick on then our quick players are taken out of the game. That first half we played like we had Lukaku, Ibra and Fellaini all up front.

Even if he wanted to defend, the obvious thing NOT to do is give that City side the ball and the majority of it. But hopelessly hoofing it up just gave them possession back straight away every single time. Seriously why start all them quick players if that was the game plan because I didnt understand them tactics one bit with the players we had on the field?

This I totally agree with.

 

[Theatre of dreams]

We defo need to start getting Bailly and Lindelöf starting together. Both very good on the ball and both quick across the ground.