The Manchester United Thread

[Vanjagl]

What I've learnt from the first half.

1) Bruno Fernandes will be a star and is worth his weight in gold from just his set pieces alone.
2) Maguire has too many weaknesses in his game to ever be considered elite but is still a monster aerially.
3) Fred first touch is shocking. That is all.
4) Deano is ready and hope PSG come in for De gea
5) I know Ole has utd playing counter-attacking but the positional play and attacking phase is non-existent and it relies on to give the ball to Bruno and hope he can do something with it. I'm legit trying to see what the setup is once in possession in the final third but unfortunately, I can't.

You should revisit some of those points once players get match fit. But:
1) Yes, he's the most influential player. Getting him and Pogba to play well together is the key for United.
2) Maguire isn't very agile player, its hard to be with his body type. His positioning should be much better for the goal, Shaws header was poor, Fred should have taken down Bergwijn and De Gea could have done better.
3) It's mediocre. He has a good engine. Similar to Henderson to compare.
4) The case of De Gea is a strange one. First time in forever, I wouldn't mind selling him. But still more than welcome to give him benefit of the doubt and rest of the season to prove his worth once again. Then again, is he really that bad so he does not deserve place at United? He was at such high level before that seeing him doing regular GK mistakes is maybe clouding our judgement.
5) Martial usually moves much better, Rashford was 5 months without football, and Daniel James has nothing but pace and heart. He's the main issue because he's ineffective in 90% of the game unless United is playing on counter attack. Also, Wan Bissaka is not the best at going forward so it cripples United a bit. You could see a lot of "whats the setup" in the second half once Pogba and Greenwood came on.

 

[Legend Incredible]

What I've learnt from the first half.

1) Bruno Fernandes will be a star and is worth his weight in gold from just his set pieces alone.
2) Maguire has too many weaknesses in his game to ever be considered elite but is still a monster aerially.
3) Fred first touch is shocking. That is all.
4) Deano is ready and hope PSG come in for De gea
5) I know Ole has utd playing counter-attacking but the positional play and attacking phase is non-existent and it relies on to give the ball to Bruno and hope he can do something with it. I'm legit trying to see what the setup is once in possession in the final third but unfortunately, I can't.

This. We basically have no defined way of attacking beyond playing on the break which is why we will continue to struggle vs teams that sit back. I don't think buying 3 more creative players will change anything imo

 

[Tyton]

I'm starting to suspect that fax machine didn't break by accident.

 

[Anthony]

I'm starting to suspect that fax machine didn't break by accident.

Why did He punch? In that position?
Why not open your hands?

 

[dilakh2]

You should revisit some of those points once players get match fit. But:
1) Yes, he's the most influential player. Getting him and Pogba to play well together is the key for United.
2) Maguire isn't very agile player, its hard to be with his body type. His positioning should be much better for the goal, Shaws header was poor, Fred should have taken down Bergwijn and De Gea could have done better.
3) It's mediocre. He has a good engine. Similar to Henderson to compare.
4) The case of De Gea is a strange one. First time in forever, I wouldn't mind selling him. But still more than welcome to give him benefit of the doubt and rest of the season to prove his worth once again. Then again, is he really that bad so he does not deserve place at United? He was at such high level before that seeing him doing regular GK mistakes is maybe clouding our judgement.
5) Martial usually moves much better, Rashford was 5 months without football, and Daniel James has nothing but pace and heart. He's the main issue because he's ineffective in 90% of the game unless United is playing on counter attack. Also, Wan Bissaka is not the best at going forward so it cripples United a bit. You could see a lot of "whats the setup" in the second half once Pogba and Greenwood came on.

I completely forgot Martial was playing until that save from Lloris and Rashford was trying too hard to impress. Henderson's technique is one of the best at Liverpool it's one of his biggest strengths and what makes him so versatile unless you meant they both have a good engine. Also, genuinely excited to see if Pogba can raise his game now that he doesn't have to feel like he's playing with a bunch of scrubs in the middle of the park. Oh and Wan bissaka can boot the ball into the stand everytime he gets forward for all I care but the way he locks down that right hand side had that Gelson kid shocked. Just get a right winger and have Bissaka to overlap and create an overload as he is amazing as he is.

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

Would have settled for a point easy before kick off. A double howler cost us. Along with some poor/rusty finishing.

Was impressed by Shaw again this season. Bruno is absolute top class. But not surprised we looked sluggish in attack compared to how we was playing before the break so not worried about that.

What I am excited about is Bruno and Pogba linking up. You could see the chemistry from the off. Btw Pogba having being out nearly all season was immense after coming on! And Greenwood what a future star.

DDG needs to be moved on after next season!

Onto Sheff Utd feeling very confident.

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

Why did He punch? In that position?
Why not open your hands?

Exactly. Had one hand open and one hand fisted :/

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

I completely forgot Martial was playing until that save from Lloris and Rashford was trying too hard to impress. Henderson's technique is one of the best at Liverpool it's one of his biggest strengths and what makes him so versatile unless you meant they both have a good engine. Also, genuinely excited to see if Pogba can raise his game now that he doesn't have to feel like he's playing with a bunch of scrubs in the middle of the park.

Martial looked way off the pace in regards to his finishing tonight considering it’s his strength usually. Rashford I didn’t expect much after absolutely no football for months and months with an operation thrown in. His effort was good though and this 90 will do him worlds.

 

[dilakh2]

Exactly. Had one hand open and one hand fisted :/

Did you see the way Keane layed into him at half time? It made me laugh but I couldn't disagree, even the Son save he made a meal out of.

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

Did you see the way Keane layed into him at half time? It made me laugh but I couldn't disagree, even the Son save he made a meal out of.

Yeah Keane was right! But that Son Dave was good tbh. Coming from the other direction then having to stop suddenly and dive the other way. And he headed that with power also. Problem is he saves those and fluffs at the ****** easy ones ?

 

[Vanjagl]

I completely forgot Martial was playing until that save from Lloris and Rashford was trying too hard to impress. Henderson's technique is one of the best at Liverpool it's one of his biggest strengths and what makes him so versatile unless you meant they both have a good engine. Also, genuinely excited to see if Pogba can raise his game now that he doesn't have to feel like he's playing with a bunch of scrubs in the middle of the park. Oh and Wan bissaka can boot the ball into the stand everytime he gets forward for all I care but the way he locks down that right hand side had that Gelson kid shocked. Just get a right winger and have Bissaka to overlap and create an overload as he is amazing as he is.

Get a right winger who's good on the ball and off the ball and you have great interchangeable front 3. United looked million times better with Greenwood on right.

 

[steveorobbo]

Why did He punch? In that position?
Why not open your hands?

Ive said the same thing all night. Why was his lead hand a fist? It hit that and bounced into the top corner. If he hand his lead hand palm out like his back hand he would have saved it and pushed the ball out to the right wing that was completely empty. I reallt dont understand it and these stupid errors are happening more frequently now. After seeing some of the saves Henderson done on Wednesday night (so cant use the lack of football as an excuse) and his form all season, he would have easilt saved that. We really need to think about moving DDG on while he has a bit of a reputation and get a decent fee and make Henderson No.1. I love big Dave and always will but its hard to watch all these mistakes now knowing we have a keeper out there that this season, and arguably last season as well, is better.

 

[steveorobbo]

Yeah Keane was right! But that Son Dave was good tbh. Coming from the other direction then having to stop suddenly and dive the other way. And he headed that with power also. Problem is he saves those and fluffs at the ****** easy ones ?

Yep the Son save was good but on reflection over the season would Henderson not have saved that as well? Then go back to their goal. Henderson would have saved that all day long. No stupid fist. It would have been both hands open and palm it out to the right wing. Most times id try to make an excuse for DDG ******* up but I really cant with that. And its happening far too much now.

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

Yep the Son save was good but on reflection over the season would Henderson not have saved that as well? Then go back to their goal. Henderson would have saved that all day long. No stupid fist. It would have been both hands open and palm it out to the right wing. Most times id try to make an excuse for DDG ******* up but I really cant with that. And its happening far too much now.

Yep Ole will have to make a decision for sure after next season!

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

So good to have him back. If him and Rashford were fit all season we would be 3rd or **** close.


Paul Pogba’s game by numbers vs. Spurs (34 minutes played):

100% long pass accuracy
94% pass accuracy
4 ball recoveries
2/2 take-ons
2 blocks
1/1 tackle
1 penalty won
1 shot

Changed the game.

 

[Tyton]

Keane's rant was epic, you gotta love the guy. Some people mellow down with age but he's still good ol' Roy, blunt, honest and no ***** given.

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

Keane's rant was epic, you gotta love the guy. Some people mellow down with age but he's still good ol' Roy, blunt, honest and no ***** given.

Agree. The way he delivered it was a bit pantomime but his words was spot on

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

I have a feeling he may have already have made that decision and we may be saying adios to Dave soon.

Agree he may not be here much longer but he won’t be gone before next season

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

Jadon Sancho’s head is already at Manchester United. [@HeikoWasser] #MUFC

 

[Theatre of Dreams83]

I have a feeling that if Sheffield Utd get a European place then Henderson will go back for another season as clearly he has benefitted from regular time. However, that might change if one of the big European clubs come in with a decent offer for De Gea. We will just have to wait and see of course.

Talks are already well under way for him to go back there next season with or without European football