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For £200 million spent, I feel this should be an absolute minimum.

It's mad how people all over SM can straight-faced say there's no squad depth given the money spent since Ferguson.

The fact that squad depth isn't very high in quality doesn't detract it's there like all the other clubs around you in the same situation.
 
It's mad how people all over SM can straight-faced say there's no squad depth given the money spent since Ferguson.

The fact that squad depth isn't very high in quality doesn't detract it's there like all the other clubs around you in the same situation.
The problem hasn’t been the money spent but where it has been spent and the ridiculous amount of manager turn over. Hopefully that’s a thing of the past but you can never be ever truly sure with us.
 
Off topic, but that lad is on way becoming WC. Would be interesting to see in this generation so impactfull player like CR9 and Messi, but in other positsion.
He is young, but very often suspect defensively. Granted, it is off-set by his pace and attacking nous, but just as easily exploitable, mind. Again, he is young, and will improve. Will be curious to see how he progresses.
 
For £200 million spent, I feel this should be an absolute minimum.
Thats the issue, thats what you feel. Squad was neglected for years, constant manager changes did not help with players settling in Manchester, and this is the first time since Alex where there's a clear progress with a vision on how to play and what players fit. City and Liverpool pulled far ahead in last 6-7 years ( well City at last, Liverpool in maybe last 3-4, not counting that Mou's 2nd place run) and you need both time and resources AND you have to be better then them at it that to catch up.
Prepare yourself mate, United still needs at least 2 more season before it can challenge for anything, unless Liverpool and City fk up.
 
Thats the issue, thats what you feel. Squad was neglected for years, constant manager changes did not help with players settling in Manchester, and this is the first time since Alex where there's a clear progress with a vision on how to play and what players fit. City and Liverpool pulled far ahead in last 6-7 years ( well City at last, Liverpool in maybe last 3-4, not counting that Mou's 2nd place run) and you need both time and resources AND you have to be better then them at it that to catch up.
Prepare yourself mate, United still needs at least 2 more season before it can challenge for anything, unless Liverpool and City fk up.
That hasn't been news to anyone on here, man. There is a clear chasm, yes, but this is the first time there is some positive signs visible. That being said, I'm worried even in this regard, Woodward can still screw it up.

Also, Rangnick is not currently employed. FFS, if Woody can step back and we get him, that's a dream appointment as a DoF. And let's face it, until we get someone with real control managing our football, we will be screwed over, with Woodward and his way of going about things.
 
It's mad how people all over SM can straight-faced say there's no squad depth given the money spent since Ferguson.

The fact that squad depth isn't very high in quality doesn't detract it's there like all the other clubs around you in the same situation.
There was money, lots of it. But most of it gone to waste because those players did not fit, and when you change managers, they have their own vision, their own players they want etc. Worst thing is, after Moyes, you bring in Van Gaal who's complete opposite and after him Mou, who's even more radical in his on way. And then you have Solskjaer who's again more similar to Van Gaal. It's a mess, real mess.
You can't honestly blame players on managers, it's the structure above them thats clueless.
 
Off topic, but that lad is on way becoming WC. Would be interesting to see in this generation so impactfull player like CR9 and Messi, but in other positsion.

He's basically a winger playing at LB, similar to Gareth Bale. I do believe he'll eventually be pushed up further but he's so entertaining to watch.
 
He's basically a winger playing at LB, similar to Gareth Bale. I do believe he'll eventually be pushed up further but he's so entertaining to watch.
Yeah, you can actually see that in his game. He moves forward amazingly, and when caught out, uses his pace and speed to regain his position. Kinda similar to how one can see AwB for instance - his attacking game is ****, but uses his pace and INSANE tackling to make up for sometimes bad positioning/attacking breakdowns.

Davies - yeah, he has mostly been used in a hybrid wing-back role more or less, this season, with complete confidence to go and attack. Definitely an exciting talent!
 
He is young, but very often suspect defensively. Granted, it is off-set by his pace and attacking nous, but just as easily exploitable, mind. Again, he is young, and will improve. Will be curious to see how he progresses.

That's because he's actually a winger but I really wouldn't mind given what he offers going forward. They'd just compensate and have Kimmich staying back to maintain some defensive solidarity
 
Remember Ducker writing a piece on Rangnick and our interest and initial talks. Think talks ended when Rangnick wanted complete oversight of the football side of things from the first team right down to the youngest age of our a academy level in transfers and style of play.
 
There was money, lots of it. But most of it gone to waste because those players did not fit, and when you change managers, they have their own vision, their own players they want etc. Worst thing is, after Moyes, you bring in Van Gaal who's complete opposite and after him Mou, who's even more radical in his on way. And then you have Solskjaer who's again more similar to Van Gaal. It's a mess, real mess.
You can't honestly blame players on managers, it's the structure above them thats clueless.

No question the lack of a proper club structure is the biggest of many issues at Utd.

But by the same token, you can't use the lack of quality squad depth as any excuse when it's no different from the level of teams you're now competing against. Coaches have to work with what they've got and improve them to their fullest until they can get better. The fact he ran you into the ground by not utilising/ trusting/ however you want to term it, the squad last seasonr is on him. Same as injuries that impact everyone.

The biggest worry as regards the squad in the upcoming season, where rotation will be KEY for every club, would be for me is he going to do the same and rely on Fernandes, in particular, to dig him out of holes every week? If he does, you're liable to be goosed by Christmas given the chaotic schedule everyone faces.
 
I know it's not likely at all, but i'd love it if we just signed right up the spine of the team. CB, CDM, ST and also a winger.
 
Niakhate would be interesting buy. Left footed guy who would fit with Maguire. But needs coaching to elevate his game to next level and trust to get playing time.

Exactly. For those on this thread that don't know him, you probably won't find a single highlight of him on YouTube but instead, here's a well written article on what he contributes



He wouldn't be an expensive signing too (around 20-30 million pounds) but with the right coaching, you could make him look like a £50 million defender. These are the type of signings I prefer rather than going for the Jugular (i.e Koulibaly)
 
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