The OMGAWD Rooneys leaving United thread

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A song by a Dublin Radio Station, Quite funny..

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbgr-RDHCRI&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube - Wayne Rooney Song[/ame]
 
Agree with what they said on SSN really. You don't come out and say you want to leave out of nowhere unless you already know where you're going. He already knows the options available and will most likely end up at Madrid with Jose helping him settle into the club.
 
The stubborn defence of Ferguson from certain United fans, especially those in this thread, is quite remarkable to me. I touched upon this subject in the past, and ultimately let it lie because it didn't seem like anyone outside of a red shirt would agree with me, but I have to come back to this.

For starters, the plain reasoning that many United fans defend Ferguson until the bitter end is that they have never known anything else. I am quite sure that the majority of Manchester United fans have only been around to witness one manager in charge of the club, so they don't know anything other. They weren't around to witness the state of the club Ferguson took over, and therefore he can do no wrong to them. He is like an illegitimate father, and you're all his ******* children.

Now, the problem with this is that it begs the question, have the majority of United supporters, especially those outside of Manchester, experienced anything but success whilst supporting the club? Practically every single Manchester United fan on this forum haven't had any other manager. They don't know any other manager for United. They can't picture another manager at United. They may not even know who the previous manager at United was, in some cases.

All of this leads to Ferguson being deemed untouchable. In reality, Ferguson is the main reason why the Glazers are still in control of the club. Always looking out for himself and nobody else. His trophy wins are indeed impressive, and are unlikely to be beaten by another manager in English football, but this doesn't detract from the fact that United are now in trouble, and Ferguson is openly endorsing these problems as 'good for the club'. By problems, I of course refer to the Glazer family, with Malcolm Glazer as the primary culprit for the spiralling hole the club finds itself falling into. His only interest is self-preservation, without giving a **** about what happens after he is done, and certainly not about the fans who mount protest after protest against the people, and the mountain of debt, that he somehow keeps praising.

The fact is, you might think there's nothing he can do to stop the Glazers. The point I am making however, is that not only hasn't he even tried to do something, but he has done the complete opposite and said numerous times that he has no problems with the Glazer family and that they are in fact good for Manchester United. This is the man that you all so blindly worship, and it sickens me really.

When United drop out the top four and begin their descent of the Premier League table, and it will happen, we'll see how many of the loyal fans stick around when the club is wading through mid-table mediocrity, and maybe even relegation in a few more years.

It's quite clear that you all believe that Rooney isn't bigger than the club, and rightly so, but it also seems that you think Ferguson might be... and that is the misguided attitude of a modern day Manchester United fan, and it's sad.
 
JDY said:
Agree with what they said on SSN really. You don't come out and say you want to leave out of nowhere unless you already know where you're going. He already knows the options available and will most likely end up at Madrid with Jose helping him settle into the club.
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Disagree totally with that. He's Wayne Rooney, no doubt one of the best players in the World. If he comes out and says he wants to leave which has now been confirmed, managers that can afford him are going to come running.Paul Merson was a ****** when he said that last night. I still don't think Rooney will leave.
 
Scott* said:
okay i was convinced he was staying a few days ago, but now i feel he will leave just next summer for about 40million quid and fergie will go as well. seems rather strange to say they will both go but this is how i see it panning out:


  • Rooney to reject various contracts throughout the rest of the season
  • Glazers to get ****** and say "we arent losing him for nothing" due to the clubs ongoing debts.
  • Rooney to leave for a cut price 40million as his contract will only have 12 months left, probaly to barca, inter or Madrid.
  • Fergie to leave as He wanted to keep wayne for another year and try to convince him to sign but glazers sold above his head.
  • Glazers to sell up due to fans hatred.
  • Mourinho to be hired and buys a suitable replacement.
I know it all seems very unlikely but my question to all united fans is, would you sacrifies Wayne and Fergie to see the end of the glazers?

I know i would!
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interesting thoughts. Perhaps controversially, yes i would sacrifice them
 
Billy said:
The stubborn defence of Ferguson from certain United fans, especially those in this thread, is quite remarkable to me. I touched upon this subject in the past, and ultimately let it lie because it didn't seem like anyone outside of a red shirt would agree with me, but I have to come back to this.

For starters, the plain reasoning that many United fans defend Ferguson until the bitter end is that they have never known anything else. I am quite sure that the majority of Manchester United fans have only been around to witness one manager in charge of the club, so they don't know anything other. They weren't around to witness the state of the club Ferguson took over, and therefore he can do no wrong to them. He is like an illegitimate father, and you're all his ******* children.

Now, the problem with this is that it begs the question, have the majority of United supporters, especially those outside of Manchester, experienced anything but success whilst supporting the club? Practically every single Manchester United fan on this forum haven't had any other manager. They don't know any other manager for United. They can't picture another manager at United. They may not even know who the previous manager at United was, in some cases.

All of this leads to Ferguson being deemed untouchable. In reality, Ferguson is the main reason why the Glazers are still in control of the club. Always looking out for himself and nobody else. His trophy wins are indeed impressive, and are unlikely to be beaten by another manager in English football, but this doesn't detract from the fact that United are now in trouble, and Ferguson is openly endorsing these problems as 'good for the club'. By problems, I of course refer to the Glazer family, with Malcolm Glazer as the primary culprit for the spiralling hole the club finds itself falling into. His only interest is self-preservation, without giving a **** about what happens after he is done, and certainly not about the fans who mount protest after protest against the people, and the mountain of debt, that he somehow keeps praising.

The fact is, you might think there's nothing he can do to stop the Glazers. The point I am making however, is that not only hasn't he even tried to do something, but he has done the complete opposite and said numerous times that he has no problems with the Glazer family and that they are in fact good for Manchester United. This is the man that you all so blindly worship, and it sickens me really.

When United drop out the top four and begin their descent of the Premier League table, and it will happen, we'll see how many of the loyal fans stick around when the club is wading through mid-table mediocrity, and maybe even relegation in a few more years.

It's quite clear that you all believe that Rooney isn't bigger than the club, and rightly so, but it also seems that you think Ferguson might be... and that is the misguided attitude of a modern day Manchester United fan, and it's sad.
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Sorry mate don't agree with any of that other then the fact that Fergie does not seem to have anything against the Glazers
 
Billy said:
The stubborn defence of Ferguson from certain United fans, especially those in this thread, is quite remarkable to me. I touched upon this subject in the past, and ultimately let it lie because it didn't seem like anyone outside of a red shirt would agree with me, but I have to come back to this.

For starters, the plain reasoning that many United fans defend Ferguson until the bitter end is that they have never known anything else. I am quite sure that the majority of Manchester United fans have only been around to witness one manager in charge of the club, so they don't know anything other. They weren't around to witness the state of the club Ferguson took over, and therefore he can do no wrong to them. He is like an illegitimate father, and you're all his ******* children.

Now, the problem with this is that it begs the question, have the majority of United supporters, especially those outside of Manchester, experienced anything but success whilst supporting the club? Practically every single Manchester United fan on this forum haven't had any other manager. They don't know any other manager for United. They can't picture another manager at United. They may not even know who the previous manager at United was, in some cases.

All of this leads to Ferguson being deemed untouchable. In reality, Ferguson is the main reason why the Glazers are still in control of the club. Always looking out for himself and nobody else. His trophy wins are indeed impressive, and are unlikely to be beaten by another manager in English football, but this doesn't detract from the fact that United are now in trouble, and Ferguson is openly endorsing these problems as 'good for the club'. By problems, I of course refer to the Glazer family, with Malcolm Glazer as the primary culprit for the spiralling hole the club finds itself falling into. His only interest is self-preservation, without giving a **** about what happens after he is done, and certainly not about the fans who mount protest after protest against the people, and the mountain of debt, that he somehow keeps praising.

The fact is, you might think there's nothing he can do to stop the Glazers. The point I am making however, is that not only hasn't he even tried to do something, but he has done the complete opposite and said numerous times that he has no problems with the Glazer family and that they are in fact good for Manchester United. This is the man that you all so blindly worship, and it sickens me really.

When United drop out the top four and begin their descent of the Premier League table, and it will happen, we'll see how many of the loyal fans stick around when the club is wading through mid-table mediocrity, and maybe even relegation in a few more years.

It's quite clear that you all believe that Rooney isn't bigger than the club, and rightly so, but it also seems that you think Ferguson might be... and that is the misguided attitude of a modern day Manchester United fan, and it's sad.
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That is very well put Billy.
 
toddzy said:
Disagree totally with that. He's Wayne Rooney, no doubt one of the best players in the World. If he comes out and says he wants to leave which has now been confirmed, managers that can afford him are going to come running.Paul Merson was a ****** when he said that last night. I still don't think Rooney will leave.
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I agree mate, what does he know about football? He should just stick to Have I Got News For You really
 
All about wayne rooney no man city deal yes


Mancini - No Rooney contact
City boss expects striker to stay at United

Roberto Mancini insists Manchester City have not made contact with Wayne Rooney and he expects the striker to stay at local rivals United.

Rooney has informed United that he wants to leave Old Trafford and he could be sold as early as January in order for the club to maximise his transfer value.

The England international's contract expires at the end of next season, but he is not prepared to sign an extension despite United's willingness to make him the club's highest-paid player.

The Red Devils' neighbours City have been made favourites to sign Rooney, who turns 25 on Sunday, and are the club most capable of meeting the player's demands.

However, Mancini has moved to dampen rumours of a New Year swoop for Rooney by stressing City have not been in touch regarding a potential bid.

Asked if there had been contact between City and the player, Mancini said: "No. Never."

Great player
Mancini echoed the comments of Real Madrid boss Jose Mourinho, who said on Tuesday night he expected the player to stay where he is.

"Rooney is a great player, but I think he'll stay at United," said Mancini. "He's a good player, he's an important player for United."

Pressed on whether he would be keen to sign the striker, Mancini added: "He is a United player. It's not correct to speak about that situation.

"I have respect for him, for Ferguson, for United. I want to speak only about my players.

"It's not my problem. I'm City manager. I have a lot of problems with my players. It's important for me to focus on tomorrow's game.

"He is a strong player like (Fernando) Torres, like (Lionel) Messi, like Carlos Tevez, like (Mario) Balotelli. This is my opinion."


So who eles is in the race no man city no madrid i hope rooney stays have to wait and see . sky sports news.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6456290,00.html​
 
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Billy said:
The stubborn defence of Ferguson from certain United fans, especially those in this thread, is quite remarkable to me. I touched upon this subject in the past, and ultimately let it lie because it didn't seem like anyone outside of a red shirt would agree with me, but I have to come back to this.

For starters, the plain reasoning that many United fans defend Ferguson until the bitter end is that they have never known anything else. I am quite sure that the majority of Manchester United fans have only been around to witness one manager in charge of the club, so they don't know anything other. They weren't around to witness the state of the club Ferguson took over, and therefore he can do no wrong to them. He is like an illegitimate father, and you're all his ******* children.

Now, the problem with this is that it begs the question, have the majority of United supporters, especially those outside of Manchester, experienced anything but success whilst supporting the club? Practically every single Manchester United fan on this forum haven't had any other manager. They don't know any other manager for United. They can't picture another manager at United. They may not even know who the previous manager at United was, in some cases.

All of this leads to Ferguson being deemed untouchable. In reality, Ferguson is the main reason why the Glazers are still in control of the club. Always looking out for himself and nobody else. His trophy wins are indeed impressive, and are unlikely to be beaten by another manager in English football, but this doesn't detract from the fact that United are now in trouble, and Ferguson is openly endorsing these problems as 'good for the club'. By problems, I of course refer to the Glazer family, with Malcolm Glazer as the primary culprit for the spiralling hole the club finds itself falling into. His only interest is self-preservation, without giving a **** about what happens after he is done, and certainly not about the fans who mount protest after protest against the people, and the mountain of debt, that he somehow keeps praising.

The fact is, you might think there's nothing he can do to stop the Glazers. The point I am making however, is that not only hasn't he even tried to do something, but he has done the complete opposite and said numerous times that he has no problems with the Glazer family and that they are in fact good for Manchester United. This is the man that you all so blindly worship, and it sickens me really.

When United drop out the top four and begin their descent of the Premier League table, and it will happen, we'll see how many of the loyal fans stick around when the club is wading through mid-table mediocrity, and maybe even relegation in a few more years.

It's quite clear that you all believe that Rooney isn't bigger than the club, and rightly so, but it also seems that you think Ferguson might be... and that is the misguided attitude of a modern day Manchester United fan, and it's sad.
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What a load of rubbish. What do you expect from Fergie? He doesn't have power over financial matters and the Glaziers are his employers. You wouldn't publically say that your boss is bad for the company because you'd lose your job. Fergie has made the club what it is, and I don't think anyone can argue that.
 
fuelledbypassion said:
What a load of rubbish. What do you expect from Fergie? He doesn't have power over financial matters and the Glaziers are his employers. You wouldn't publically say that your boss is bad for the company because you'd lose your job. Fergie has made the club what it is, and I don't think anyone can argue that.
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I'm not arguing that Ferguson has been successful. I even addressed that in my post, which you conveniently forgot to notice, or just decided to ignore it.

However, there's no denying that his endorsement of your owners is doing more harm than good.

If you can't see it, you're blinded by faith in a man who ultimately is there to serve your club, not the other way around.
 
Billy said:
The stubborn defence of Ferguson from certain United fans, especially those in this thread, is quite remarkable to me. I touched upon this subject in the past, and ultimately let it lie because it didn't seem like anyone outside of a red shirt would agree with me, but I have to come back to this.

For starters, the plain reasoning that many United fans defend Ferguson until the bitter end is that they have never known anything else. I am quite sure that the majority of Manchester United fans have only been around to witness one manager in charge of the club, so they don't know anything other. They weren't around to witness the state of the club Ferguson took over, and therefore he can do no wrong to them. He is like an illegitimate father, and you're all his ******* children.

Now, the problem with this is that it begs the question, have the majority of United supporters, especially those outside of Manchester, experienced anything but success whilst supporting the club? Practically every single Manchester United fan on this forum haven't had any other manager. They don't know any other manager for United. They can't picture another manager at United. They may not even know who the previous manager at United was, in some cases.

All of this leads to Ferguson being deemed untouchable. In reality, Ferguson is the main reason why the Glazers are still in control of the club. Always looking out for himself and nobody else. His trophy wins are indeed impressive, and are unlikely to be beaten by another manager in English football, but this doesn't detract from the fact that United are now in trouble, and Ferguson is openly endorsing these problems as 'good for the club'. By problems, I of course refer to the Glazer family, with Malcolm Glazer as the primary culprit for the spiralling hole the club finds itself falling into. His only interest is self-preservation, without giving a **** about what happens after he is done, and certainly not about the fans who mount protest after protest against the people, and the mountain of debt, that he somehow keeps praising.

The fact is, you might think there's nothing he can do to stop the Glazers. The point I am making however, is that not only hasn't he even tried to do something, but he has done the complete opposite and said numerous times that he has no problems with the Glazer family and that they are in fact good for Manchester United. This is the man that you all so blindly worship, and it sickens me really.

When United drop out the top four and begin their descent of the Premier League table, and it will happen, we'll see how many of the loyal fans stick around when the club is wading through mid-table mediocrity, and maybe even relegation in a few more years.

It's quite clear that you all believe that Rooney isn't bigger than the club, and rightly so, but it also seems that you think Ferguson might be... and that is the misguided attitude of a modern day Manchester United fan, and it's sad.
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I dont see how this is at all related to wayne wanting to leave. :S.

How has fergies attidudes towards the glazers(his boss) affect wayne not signing a new deal, or wayne wanting to leave. It isnt finicial reasons why wayne is leaving. It isnt he wants an extra 20k a week more then utd are offering. he simply doesnt want to stay for whatever reason, all current reasons are media speculation and rumours.

Fergie is not bigger then the club and that is not the view of every manchester United fan, I giude you to a post i did at 10:52am to show you, how i would sacrifies fergie to save the club.

Mid table is coming for utd, simply becuase no club can stay at the top for ever. out of the top 4 might happen this year. all i know is most utd supporters, are utd through and through whether you or any other fans wants to label someone with the term "Glory Hunter" or not!
As you rightly said most have only ever known fergie to be the manager, this also means most have only ever known Manchester United. I can imagine a life without Sir Alex, but could i imagine a life without United. Never. I bet that is the same for every other united SUPPORTER around.
 
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