True but it would be great to have 4 quality CBs all competing with each other for the starting spot. Plus Taylor seems to always get injured :/ Colo was also injured a fair bit last season which didn't help. Perch is a decent backup for DM, said himself he loves that position to run, nick the ball and give to kebab. But as a CB? nope dread when I see him or Williamson in the starting 11. Didn't Ashley or someone say CB and striker are the targets this summer?
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Well our lord and saviour Kinnear says he wants a '20 goal a season striker'. £5 says he brings in bent
He's free and better than Williamson/ Perch. But perhaps you're right his wages may be too high for simply a competing CB. Even so it's not good to see Kinnear already overruling Pardew and Carr
Just heard Kinnear's interview, what a pedantic ****. Nevertheless, it was funny to hear stuff like Ben Afra, Amenobi, Kebab, or "we finished fifteenth, sixteenth from the bottom". Not to mention "manager of the year three times".
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Its like Ashley wants the club to be a laughing stock..
yup that's what I'm worried about!
From £200m Messi to £20m Lukaku: Europe’s 60 most valuable players this summer
By Nick Harris
17 June 2013
There are 60 footballers in the ‘Big 5’ leagues of Europe who each carry a market value of £20m-plus this summer.
The world’s best and most expensive player is Barcelona’s Lionel Messi, whose ‘guide price’ is between €217m and €253m (£185m-£215m).
Next comes Real Madrid’s Cristiano Ronaldo (£87m-£101m), then Napoli’s Edison Cavani (£50m-£58m), Chelsea’s Eden Hazard (£47m-£55m) and Manchester City’s Sergio Aguero (£41m-£48m).
The ‘market value’ takes into account each player’s age and position, their contract situation, international experience, the ‘sporting’ strength of the club for whom they play and a range of specific performance criteria relating to the 2012-13 season.
The calculations have been made by the academic team at the CIES Football Observatory in Switzerland, with an ‘objective’ market value given to each of 3,032 players across the 98 clubs who played their league football in the Premier League, Bundesliga, La Liga, Serie A and Ligue 1 in 2012-13.
An illustrative range of the CIES team’s valuations have been published in their annual review (cover above left), which is a wide-ranging comparative analysis of the clubs and players in the Big 5 leagues. More details are here and the full report as well as a free downloadable extract are available here.
The four chapters look at different areas. The first chapter explains how the leagues are becoming less competitively balanced, and warns of the growing disparity between the richest and the rest.
The second chapter compares clubs according to the age structure of their players, length of contracts remaining and different attacking and defensive strategies and success rates.
The third uses performance analytics to rate the most productive players on five ‘key performance indicators’: shooting, chance creation, take on, distribution and recovery. As well as rating the household names, this chapter flags up a number of promising ‘breakthrough’ young players such as Mauro Icardi, Henri Saivet, Florian Thauvin, Son Heung-Min, Wahbi Khazri, Sebastian Rode, Koke Resurrección, Alhassane Bangoura, Ricardo Rodríguez, Serge Aurier, Allan Marques and Roberto Firmino.
The fourth chapter is the debut presentation of the results of the Observatory’s statistical economic model to value players using objective criteria, ‘benchmarked’ against some 1,000 actual transfers since summer 2009.
The model allows for a player valuation at any point in time, and as player’s situations change, including their on-pitch performance or the lengths of their contracts, so their values will change.
For the purposes of the annual review, the valuations have been calculated at 1 June 2013.
The combined market value this summer of the 60 players in the graphic below is just above £2 billion.
For the avoidance of doubt: these are ‘guide prices’ for players on a like-for-like basis for the summer transfer window of 2013. These are ‘real’ prices that clubs might actually expect to sell or buy a player for this summer – all other things being equal.
Two players of the same age in the same position with similar experience and talent will have different values if one only has a year remaining on the contract and other has four years.
Any player who is out of contract this summer, and therefore of no economic value to their club in the transfer window, such as Arsenal’s Andrei Arshavin, has a market value of zero – because he is worth zero to Arsenal in the market.
The report’s lead author, Raffaele Poli, says: ‘One of the reasons that we have designed this model is because there is always immense interest in the transfer market, not least from the various parties who operate within it, and yet there has been an absence of any kind of objective benchmark for prices, until now.
‘Football clubs consider all kinds of information when making decisions, and this should help them to make more informed decisions, at a glance.
‘While there is no “right” price for any given footballer, our data can assist in objectively identifying a player’s value in the market place having considered a range of factors including what prices were paid in the recent past for players with similar characteristics.’
The objectivity of the list is perhaps best exemplified in a price range for Tottenham’s Gareth Bale of £37m-£43m.
Fans of Spurs and many observers of the game, especially in Britain, are likely to scoff at such a tag, not least when headlines having been screaming for months that the 23-year-old Welshman is worth upwards of £80m.
Ultimately, he will be ‘worth’ whatever a buying club pays for him. But the model takes into account that, at nearly 24, he has never won anything, has limited Champions League experience (one season, two years ago) and plays (exceptionally well in recent times) for a club that has not finished in the top three in its league.
If he were 23 with a Champions League winners’ medal or two he would be worth much more on the basis of having proved himself. But in any case, he is still rated the ninth most valuable player this summer.
Of the 60 highest value players, seven each are currently with Barcelona, Real Madrid and Manchester United, five with Manchester City and Bayern Munich and four with Chelsea and Borussia Dortmund.
Article continues below Download this spreadsheet: CIES top 60 for summer 2013 Other data and PDFs here
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The full report lists the top 60 players, as well as the 10 most valuable goalkeepers, full-backs, centre-backs, defensive midfielders, offensive midfielders and forwards, plus the three most valuable players from a variety of different countries. It also lists the top five most valuable players born each year from 1982 onwards.
There is also a league by league analysis of the ‘market value’ of all the players combined at each club. The Premier League example is below.
By Nick Harris
17 June 2013
There are 60 footballers in the ‘Big 5’ leagues of Europe who each carry a market value of £20m-plus this summer.
The world’s best and most expensive player is Barcelona’s Lionel Messi, whose ‘guide price’ is between €217m and €253m (£185m-£215m).
Next comes Real Madrid’s Cristiano Ronaldo (£87m-£101m), then Napoli’s Edison Cavani (£50m-£58m), Chelsea’s Eden Hazard (£47m-£55m) and Manchester City’s Sergio Aguero (£41m-£48m).
The ‘market value’ takes into account each player’s age and position, their contract situation, international experience, the ‘sporting’ strength of the club for whom they play and a range of specific performance criteria relating to the 2012-13 season.
The calculations have been made by the academic team at the CIES Football Observatory in Switzerland, with an ‘objective’ market value given to each of 3,032 players across the 98 clubs who played their league football in the Premier League, Bundesliga, La Liga, Serie A and Ligue 1 in 2012-13.
An illustrative range of the CIES team’s valuations have been published in their annual review (cover above left), which is a wide-ranging comparative analysis of the clubs and players in the Big 5 leagues. More details are here and the full report as well as a free downloadable extract are available here.
The four chapters look at different areas. The first chapter explains how the leagues are becoming less competitively balanced, and warns of the growing disparity between the richest and the rest.
The second chapter compares clubs according to the age structure of their players, length of contracts remaining and different attacking and defensive strategies and success rates.
The third uses performance analytics to rate the most productive players on five ‘key performance indicators’: shooting, chance creation, take on, distribution and recovery. As well as rating the household names, this chapter flags up a number of promising ‘breakthrough’ young players such as Mauro Icardi, Henri Saivet, Florian Thauvin, Son Heung-Min, Wahbi Khazri, Sebastian Rode, Koke Resurrección, Alhassane Bangoura, Ricardo Rodríguez, Serge Aurier, Allan Marques and Roberto Firmino.
The fourth chapter is the debut presentation of the results of the Observatory’s statistical economic model to value players using objective criteria, ‘benchmarked’ against some 1,000 actual transfers since summer 2009.
The model allows for a player valuation at any point in time, and as player’s situations change, including their on-pitch performance or the lengths of their contracts, so their values will change.
For the purposes of the annual review, the valuations have been calculated at 1 June 2013.
The combined market value this summer of the 60 players in the graphic below is just above £2 billion.
For the avoidance of doubt: these are ‘guide prices’ for players on a like-for-like basis for the summer transfer window of 2013. These are ‘real’ prices that clubs might actually expect to sell or buy a player for this summer – all other things being equal.
Two players of the same age in the same position with similar experience and talent will have different values if one only has a year remaining on the contract and other has four years.
Any player who is out of contract this summer, and therefore of no economic value to their club in the transfer window, such as Arsenal’s Andrei Arshavin, has a market value of zero – because he is worth zero to Arsenal in the market.
The report’s lead author, Raffaele Poli, says: ‘One of the reasons that we have designed this model is because there is always immense interest in the transfer market, not least from the various parties who operate within it, and yet there has been an absence of any kind of objective benchmark for prices, until now.
‘Football clubs consider all kinds of information when making decisions, and this should help them to make more informed decisions, at a glance.
‘While there is no “right” price for any given footballer, our data can assist in objectively identifying a player’s value in the market place having considered a range of factors including what prices were paid in the recent past for players with similar characteristics.’
The objectivity of the list is perhaps best exemplified in a price range for Tottenham’s Gareth Bale of £37m-£43m.
Fans of Spurs and many observers of the game, especially in Britain, are likely to scoff at such a tag, not least when headlines having been screaming for months that the 23-year-old Welshman is worth upwards of £80m.
Ultimately, he will be ‘worth’ whatever a buying club pays for him. But the model takes into account that, at nearly 24, he has never won anything, has limited Champions League experience (one season, two years ago) and plays (exceptionally well in recent times) for a club that has not finished in the top three in its league.
If he were 23 with a Champions League winners’ medal or two he would be worth much more on the basis of having proved himself. But in any case, he is still rated the ninth most valuable player this summer.
Of the 60 highest value players, seven each are currently with Barcelona, Real Madrid and Manchester United, five with Manchester City and Bayern Munich and four with Chelsea and Borussia Dortmund.
Article continues below Download this spreadsheet: CIES top 60 for summer 2013 Other data and PDFs here
The full report lists the top 60 players, as well as the 10 most valuable goalkeepers, full-backs, centre-backs, defensive midfielders, offensive midfielders and forwards, plus the three most valuable players from a variety of different countries. It also lists the top five most valuable players born each year from 1982 onwards.
There is also a league by league analysis of the ‘market value’ of all the players combined at each club. The Premier League example is below.
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My local team Hull City have changed their name to Hull City Tigers, they're not my team but I like to see them do well because its good for the city but I'm not comfortable with this move don't know if they're any Hull City fans on here but my Facebook is full of fans not happy about it. I don't like the allam the clubs chairman he has been trying to get the kc for nothing since he has taken over which won't happen because the council own the stadium and was constructed out of the profits kc communication stock flotation. The man has no class especially after stripping the Johnny Whiteley suite of his picture. Was wondering what other people thought about this and whether this will become a trend for the future as the smaller clubs attempt to get a foothold in the marketing of the english game.
May be worth mentioning (in case anyone is unaware) that there is live Premier League football on Pick TV (Freeview Channel 11) with the Man Utd v Swansea match being broadcast, and right now there is live Championship football if anyone is interested with Leeds v Sheff Wednesday being broadcast.
More importantly - don't have to pay to watch soccer saturday from 3 pm. Unbelievable Jeff!!!!
More importantly - don't have to pay to watch soccer saturday from 3 pm. Unbelievable Jeff!!!!
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Didn't really know where to put this, since the transfer rumours thread is closed and there isn't one - I haven't seen anyway - for 2013/14, but:
Carlo Ancelotti has (apparently) confirmed that Fábio Coentrão wants to leave the club. Rumours flying about him leaving for Tottenham Hotspur and Manchester United.
Carlo Ancelotti has (apparently) confirmed that Fábio Coentrão wants to leave the club. Rumours flying about him leaving for Tottenham Hotspur and Manchester United.
Didn't he say at some point that he'd go only to a CL club? I think Utd are ending Baines chase and turning their attention to Coentrao.
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I don't know, probably. Perhaps he's among the several targets Moyes mentioned about.
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It's a nice touch that BT Sports have got Mark Halsey as a residential expert on refereeing decisions.
On a more related note, Liverpool have looked lively in the opener. Once Aspas gets used to the Premier League I think he might find himself starting a few games ahead of Suárez, because his movement for them today has been causing all sorts of problems for the Stoke defence.
On a more related note, Liverpool have looked lively in the opener. Once Aspas gets used to the Premier League I think he might find himself starting a few games ahead of Suárez, because his movement for them today has been causing all sorts of problems for the Stoke defence.
Owen is no Gary Nev though:/
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Bony has been throwing his weight around tonight. He's got on the score sheet to give Swansea a consolation goal though, so he's doing something right.
