Well if he's not premier league material, why did liverpool sign him??didn't exactly score a bucket full of goals, i know he didnt cost anything but his wages are well too much for him. Paulo Ferreria cost £17m, and he hasnt played for ages, he is absolute ****, why would they bring in Bosingwa and Ivanovic if they thought he was decent. Oh dear, im a west ham fan and used to watch him play, he is awful, he used to miss place passes, duck out of challenges, he is soo bad, now when he plays for villa at upton park, the west ham fans sing "your the reason we were s***" and he was, i know you will say that you cant blame a player on everything but believe me, if we had a good move on or something and looked like we could score he just lost possesion and we would go and concede. We payed £500k for him and when i heard villa bid £8.5mil for him, i rang up west ham and offered to drop him off. What a **** players, and has hardly played for Villa since, sometimes as a RIGHT BACK ahaha