3-4-3 The Langvatn Tribute By Jesaustralia

yarmolenko and reus are my inside forwards, I play Pjanic who is an AMC in the CM position, Yarmolenko suits this tactic superbly, in the German league, I've played 16, won 10, drawn 4 and lost 2 and sit second by 1 point. Yarmolenko has played 16, scored 10 and assisted 3, injured now though for 6 weeks typically. Great tactic though mate and I appreciate the amount of effort and detail you go into to help out,
Cheers


Well you guys help just as much by just showing an interest in FM13, if noone was replying or interacting with my posts I wouldn't bother and I know at one point the game will die out when SEGA release a good version worth playing, but according to what I have heard that's not gonna be the 2015 version either :(

My best friend still plays FM12 because he hates how the fm13 and later match engines behave. The last FM game I played was FM06 and alot has changed since then so it was like wow for me to start playing FM13 with the 3D Match Engine, but I do see alot of flaws though. A thing like headers without power beats me up real good, so many chances on headers their should be much more natural power on them even from players that are specialists looks like they have never headed a ball in their lifes.

The game lack variety and lots of it, you get to a point after a while where it all seems very mechanical. The ability to surprise the gamer or the one that watches the 3D games with special moves from special players like Ronaldo - Messi etc is lacking and I wish they would focus some of their energy on making players stand out so you know when its Messi or Ronaldo or James Rodrigues
(Love this player real life) - The world have no idea yet they have only seen a small amount of his talent. He's a Superstar in the making - only seen once before (Maradona).

Scottyy: Alternative to the SC position could be an AMC retrained using the complete forward schedule - So Isco comes to my mind
Gotze - Neymar (though I'd prefer him as an inside forward) Creativity is important in most of the postions and so is first touch and technique and passing, but Decisions is always the winner of skills.


Its my pleasure

Cheers
 

Will look at them now and get back to you - understand your frustrations!

In the meantime can you tell me your team gel what that's saying?

cheers
 
Sorry edited previous post but it got lost:

My players aren't the best in the world but they are definately the best in the Premier League. Further, I give motivation myself as I find Assistant even with good motivation tend to make some players angry. Lastly I hold individual motivational conversations with my players every three months.

Training Schedule:

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My players have forged an extremely string understanding (although when I checked this previously around 2 months ago it was willing to die for each other - dont know why it changed)
 
How do you check if the players have a good understanding?
 
Atanasov= Retrain AML (inside forward) Amazing player by the way - keep training complete forward schedule
ppm=rwb through centre - round keeper - beat offside trap - knock ball past opponent - rwb often - place shots (if composed)/shot with power (if not composed) - play one two's
Atanasov you should keep and play AML (IF) I wish I had him


Sidibe Doesn't look good enough to me - Many attributes are lacking (teamwork - workrate - quickness - strenght)


Fitton When you train these players max out their poaching skills before moving on to complete forward so 20 pace 20 acceleration over technique - some technique is good but pace is better and ofcause 20 finishing helps to :) - For me Fitton is not good enough sell.

Broad Same as Fitton sell - wingers won't work real great, you'll need poachers with some technique or Quick AMC's who train complete forward schedule/poacher

Guzman Retrain AML (IF) Train Poacher schedule. I want IF's to be lightning quick

Complete forward type to look for should or train for should look simular to this guy ROUS

Inside Forward to look for should look simular to this a real poacher JOHN

Cafferata - Is ok not bad at all, but lacks finishing and first touch, if he was younger he should be training complete forward

Pavon - again very talented - he should be training complete forward you want high composure - finishing - dribling and preferably flair. Complete forward you can save this player alot still. He's not someone you should sell - I would actually train deep laying playmaker with this guy and boost his tackling creativity and composure. He could be a real important player.

Thiaguinho - Ahh...Sell looks like he's been trained wrong - he's not very good at defensive skills or offensive skills he's in between which makes him inefficient. If you keep him i would train complete forward now.

I will refer to Klinger who performs amazing at MCR take a loot at him. Players playing in the centre midfield benefit alot from training the complete forward schedule.

Luan - Looks like you have bought him expensively :) - He does look good, but he's lacking in some key areas - Tackling - marking and concentration is bad and should be much higher. You know I train Anchorman with these players as well before I give them over completely to complete forward.

Nielsen - Defensively he's a real beauty and someone I like - offensively he got nothing to add, but that's ok however I wish that he would have a little more technique and ofcause preferably more first touch but you can't have it all. He's perfect mentally and physically great as well. Decisions composure anticipation and concentration along with the strenght tackling marking and pace is important attributes in this position. This player I count as my best example FORT


Rybakov - Amazing looking I would use him as a centre defender - I prefer them to have higher tackling skills

Reis - Another great defender of yours a DCR in my opinion, but can easily play in the centre as well.

Blomquist - Yes he's good too, but lacks a little jumping I prefer them to have atleast 12 other than that no complaints

I now see why you have problems with corner kicks - You need one who is capable of out jumping heading the opponents.
It is king to have one of those, but only for the corners sake as I see it. Take a look at 2 times golden boot winner Choi Se-ha

Ok now been through the whole of your squad and made alot of annoying comments towards it because I dissagree alot with the abilities your team got. I can easily see why your team cannot perform the way they should. They are not specialists in the areas mine are and unfortunately it proves a little to me that my tactic is not for any underdog team at all, but yet again a very big team with the right players and team gel.

In short - I'll Explain it position by position here:

DCL and DCR = Fairly quick 13+ - very good defender skills - DCL mentally very strong and great at jumping heading.
DC = Your technical defender with decent jump skill 12+ and very good defender skills
DM's = Mentally very strong all over - very good defensive skills - great technique - decent first touch 13+ - decision/composure/anticipation very high - decent creativity 12+ - if possible add finishing to all that
CM's = Quick 14+ -
very good finishing/first touch/dribling/technique/passing/offball/workrate/creativity/decision/composure/anticipation/strenght
IF's = Poachers with technique - Very good finishing/first touch/dribling/offball/composure/anticipation/pace20/acceleration18+/agility18+ - some strenght/decision/technique/passing/creativity - Not most important but if you can get high FLAIR that's great!

SC = Same skills as the MC/AMC's probably - Flair less important, but some is good. Very quick great finishing first touch look ar rous and you'll understand.

Mate I'm very sorry to correct you like this - I personally dislike when someone corrects me so I hope you take no offense because I'm just trying to help you and your game will be so different to what it is currently.

Cheers and let me know if their is anything else
 
Atanasov= Retrain AML (inside forward) Amazing player by the way - keep training complete forward schedule
ppm=rwb through centre - round keeper - beat offside trap - knock ball past opponent - rwb often - place shots (if composed)/shot with power (if not composed) - play one two's
Atanasov you should keep and play AML (IF) I wish I had him


Sidibe Doesn't look good enough to me - Many attributes are lacking (teamwork - workrate - quickness - strenght)


Fitton When you train these players max out their poaching skills before moving on to complete forward so 20 pace 20 acceleration over technique - some technique is good but pace is better and ofcause 20 finishing helps to :) - For me Fitton is not good enough sell.

Broad Same as Fitton sell - wingers won't work real great, you'll need poachers with some technique or Quick AMC's who train complete forward schedule/poacher

Guzman Retrain AML (IF) Train Poacher schedule. I want IF's to be lightning quick

Complete forward type to look for should or train for should look simular to this guy ROUS

Inside Forward to look for should look simular to this a real poacher JOHN

Cafferata - Is ok not bad at all, but lacks finishing and first touch, if he was younger he should be training complete forward

Pavon - again very talented - he should be training complete forward you want high composure - finishing - dribling and preferably flair. Complete forward you can save this player alot still. He's not someone you should sell - I would actually train deep laying playmaker with this guy and boost his tackling creativity and composure. He could be a real important player.

Thiaguinho - Ahh...Sell looks like he's been trained wrong - he's not very good at defensive skills or offensive skills he's in between which makes him inefficient. If you keep him i would train complete forward now.

I will refer to Klinger who performs amazing at MCR take a loot at him. Players playing in the centre midfield benefit alot from training the complete forward schedule.

Luan - Looks like you have bought him expensively :) - He does look good, but he's lacking in some key areas - Tackling - marking and concentration is bad and should be much higher. You know I train Anchorman with these players as well before I give them over completely to complete forward.

Nielsen - Defensively he's a real beauty and someone I like - offensively he got nothing to add, but that's ok however I wish that he would have a little more technique and ofcause preferably more first touch but you can't have it all. He's perfect mentally and physically great as well. Decisions composure anticipation and concentration along with the strenght tackling marking and pace is important attributes in this position. This player I count as my best example FORT


Rybakov - Amazing looking I would use him as a centre defender - I prefer them to have higher tackling skills

Reis - Another great defender of yours a DCR in my opinion, but can easily play in the centre as well.

Blomquist - Yes he's good too, but lacks a little jumping I prefer them to have atleast 12 other than that no complaints

I now see why you have problems with corner kicks - You need one who is capable of out jumping heading the opponents.
It is king to have one of those, but only for the corners sake as I see it. Take a look at 2 times golden boot winner Choi Se-ha

Ok now been through the whole of your squad and made alot of annoying comments towards it because I dissagree alot with the abilities your team got. I can easily see why your team cannot perform the way they should. They are not specialists in the areas mine are and unfortunately it proves a little to me that my tactic is not for any underdog team at all, but yet again a very big team with the right players and team gel.

In short - I'll Explain it position by position here:

DCL and DCR = Fairly quick 13+ - very good defender skills - DCL mentally very strong and great at jumping heading.
DC = Your technical defender with decent jump skill 12+ and very good defender skills
DM's = Mentally very strong all over - very good defensive skills - great technique - decent first touch 13+ - decision/composure/anticipation very high - decent creativity 12+ - if possible add finishing to all that
CM's = Quick 14+ -
very good finishing/first touch/dribling/technique/passing/offball/workrate/creativity/decision/composure/anticipation/strenght
IF's = Poachers with technique - Very good finishing/first touch/dribling/offball/composure/anticipation/pace20/acceleration18+/agility18+ - some strenght/decision/technique/passing/creativity - Not most important but if you can get high FLAIR that's great!

SC = Same skills as the MC/AMC's probably - Flair less important, but some is good. Very quick great finishing first touch look ar rous and you'll understand.

Mate I'm very sorry to correct you like this - I personally dislike when someone corrects me so I hope you take no offense because I'm just trying to help you and your game will be so different to what it is currently.

Cheers and let me know if their is anything else

thanks man...appreciate it...
 
btw...how many goals do you IFs get? mine are at like 5-6 though my player called Fitton has 30 assists and around 20% season is left.

Also, since all my IF's could play either side, I had them swapping positions. Hope that's fine?
 
btw...how many goals do you IFs get? mine are at like 5-6 though my player called Fitton has 30 assists and around 20% season is left.

Also, since all my IF's could play either side, I had them swapping positions. Hope that's fine?

Fitton does he do any setpieces?

Well if you edit anything in the tactic at all I don't know if it will affect it, I don't remember if it saved my OI's in the tactic. If you see OI's before editing it yourself and you then change it with something as simple as switch with other position then it might delete the OI's and maybe the OI's make it all work for me, but I don't have proof on that, so I don't know!

I actually prefer the inside forwards to be reversed foot - left foot in the right winger slot. The only reason I have so players play with the same foot is because I want specific players to be inside forward partners like John left foot/left side and Aurelio left foot/right side

John does not have a weak right foot either he's resonable and that ofcause make him very dangerous. Its preferred to play them reversed and not switch with each other.

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cheers mate
 
Hey jesaustralia,your tactic is superb,all my draws ( 2 only in 12 league games ) are away,but for the pretty the team plays and for the results I can say this tactic is in my top 3 tactics all time counting fm10,11,12 and 13. Congrats for that!

Its so nice to see in ofence....but I like much more in defence when the DMs going between the CBs and let the right/left CB cover the wingers/fullbacks ofence or simply doing themselves.
In ofence the combinations and the counter attacks are incredible,and in more static atack the IFs open the pitch very well and let the midfielders go to the box to score a lot.
I wanna show you some regens in my team,all the strikers in my team and a AMC retrain to midfielder.

I like the "tank type" striker...but with the correct trainning of course. Hernan Blanco score a lot in corner too.
 
Fitton does he do any setpieces?

Well if you edit anything in the tactic at all I don't know if it will affect it, I don't remember if it saved my OI's in the tactic. If you see OI's before editing it yourself and you then change it with something as simple as switch with other position then it might delete the OI's and maybe the OI's make it all work for me, but I don't have proof on that, so I don't know!

I actually prefer the inside forwards to be reversed foot - left foot in the right winger slot. The only reason I have so players play with the same foot is because I want specific players to be inside forward partners like John left foot/left side and Aurelio left foot/right side

John does not have a weak right foot either he's resonable and that ofcause make him very dangerous. Its preferred to play them reversed and not switch with each other.

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cheers mate

I see, you have incorporated oppositions instructions? Dont they get changed match to match?
 
Yea they look nice, how do you train them?

do you use any of the striker as the inside forward or just at the centre striker slot?

I actually had a simular striker to Blanco, but got rid of him because I didn't like his pace and he was fully developed so I couldn't do anything about that. Strenght is really king in this game not just in offense but all over.

Jumping/heading I doubt though since the creators have toned it down due to way to many goals from crosses and headers in combination, so many situations where you would expect a goal from an expert header you won't get it :(

However how do these players act for you?

Your midfielder is still in development!!! - and will be really amazing when becoming better at the mental skills especially composure/creativity/anticipation/decision and then the finishing - I train these with complete forward schedule and it looks like they keep developing for a long time when using this schedule, I don't know if it is just me seeing things, but players seems to become better on this schedule.

Bwomper statement:

top 3 tactics all time counting fm10,11,12 and 13. Congrats for that!

OMG. I'm so proud that I stole Mr. Langvatn sliders for the better :) just kidding
The truth is I just wanna make another Diablo from FM07 because that's a challenge to hehe! - but if I can't then I'm happy with sexy football.
I'm glad you got to see it - I just wish it was with Sassuolo :)

But thanks for the nice words - though it comes down to luck in this one. It was a needdle in the haystack kind of thing and I actually think their might be better tactics to create and they will be fairly easy to create with this framework that MR. Langvatn and his lads researched back in time.

I do take a little credit though because if I haven't created tactics like Gooaall262 (Midfielders) and The Connection (Creative Striker) and tried to play with Galego's Marcelo tactic (The 3 DC's) I wouldn't have had this idea. The best thing is that Inside Forwards work - they have always been a fail for me.



Cheers Pal!
 
I see, you have incorporated oppositions instructions? Dont they get changed match to match?

I'm not sure - I did them once and then I never touched them again, I'll have a look in the next match. Its pretty simple stuff, but I don't know if they got saved to my tactic which would mean you would see them at OI screen! - And if incorporated in the tactic then if changing something in tactic might delete those instructions and change tactics. Saying that because i saw that at one point.

Cheers
 
OI Instructions that I have on

Position Instructions - Show onto foot:

Opponent
DL=Right
DR=Left
DCL=Right
DCR=Left
MCL=Right
MCR=Left
MR=nothing - But don't want them to cut in so maybe (Right)
ML=nothing - maybe (Left)
SC= Left - The idea is most strikers are right footed
AMC=Nothiing

Use it or don't - don't know if this is important!

cheers
 
OI Instructions that I have on

Position Instructions - Show onto foot:

Opponent
DL=Right
DR=Left
DCL=Right
DCR=Left
MCL=Right
MCR=Left
MR=nothing - But don't want them to cut in so maybe (Right)
ML=nothing - maybe (Left)
SC= Left - The idea is most strikers are right footed
AMC=Nothiing

Use it or don't - don't know if this is important!

cheers
I think this OI is importan ( dont know how much but i think it is ) because in some games I can see my midfielders/DM press the rival and then see them passing the ball in the wrong way so they lose the posession and my team go for a counter atack very quick. Sometimes is insane how the other team lose the ball...I remember how a CB try to make a long pass with one of my IF pressing him and literally shot in the head of him,lose the ball,my IF pass to my striker who is more alone than Mackauly Culkin movie lol and score easy

For your qstion abouy if I use strikers like IF ...dont...at least not yet,still have Bale and Cristiano Ronaldo in the team and I have Jese like a IF from the left with another regen like IF from the right. They do so well for me.
 
Bwomper can you clarify how the OI's are set - is it set into the tactic?
or do you guys have to set them yourself?
Is the winger set as well?

And thanks for clarifying that you think its important - because wasn't sure about it myself!

And apoligies to Champion and anyone else that this haven't been clarified

cheers
 
Bwomper can you clarify how the OI's are set - is it set into the tactic?
or do you guys have to set them yourself?
Is the winger set as well?

And thanks for clarifying that you think its important - because wasn't sure about it myself!

And apoligies to Champion and anyone else that this haven't been clarified

cheers
yes,OI set in to the tactic...It works fine for me. I see it personally in first games but it look like the OI you say before.

And now I can see wingers arent set...
 
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yes,OI set in to the tactic...It works fine for me. I see it personally in first games but it look like the OI you say before.

And now I can see wingers arent set...

well its probably good as it is, but, you can always experiment with opponent winger left side= show to left and reversed with right winger, amc and dmc is not set, but could be set to left i reckon.

cheers mate and thanks

PS.

In case of editing the tactics at the player instruction screen it could be deleting the OI's
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