im sorry what? oO)
******* evil zionists n there thrust for more oil !
I really hope you are joking...******* evil zionists n there thrust for more oil !
Absolutely spot on. Why have we not gone into Burma where the killing has been going on for years, or somalia where there is no government and crazy gang leaders rule the country, or Sudan where war has left thousands dead, or The Cambodian Genocide which left 2 million dead, or the atrocities in Rwanda and Burundi. I could honestly go on for years. The answer simply is that those countries have little that we want, we are not going in because we are heroes.Have to say that what the "Coalition" is doing is right but it is interesting that they are not helping in Sudan or Zimbabwae even though we all now about the situations in them countries.
Its obviously because there is oil in Libya which is needed.
Again I think this isn't a bad excuse (although Sudan and Zimbabwae also need help) but why was the mandate passed as to help the civilians in Libya and not passed as to "protect the Oil reserves of the west".
Just think the way people go around things is wrong sometimes
Absolutely spot on. Why have we not gone into Burma where the killing has been going on for years, or somalia where there is no government and crazy gang leaders rule the country, or Sudan where war has left thousands dead, or The Cambodian Genocide which left 2 million dead, or the atrocities in Rwanda and Burundi. I could honestly go on for years. The answer simply is that those countries have little that we want, we are not going in because we are heroes.
They arent beneficial in terms of trading, as you say. I know people don't like it but its got to be a reason why. I know we need to stop Gaddafi but if the UN is so hellbent on stopping evil leaders then why not enforce Zimbabwe/Burma/Somalia/Sudan etc where its been going on forever and a day.
Fact is - UN stops Gaddafi = happy trading for all us capitalist nations. Hurrah.
Not saying that I'm against the UN going in and halting the mess that Libya is in, or at least trying to, I think its about time they did something worthwile.
This.
We can't just be the heroes for everyone though, nor can we stop evil tyrants popping up in new places. And our resources would also be exceptionally stretched if we want on a mission to stop everyone. We have something to gain from Libya, but we're also saving millions of people from having to live under Gaddafi. What we're doing is right, it could just be argued it's for the wrong reasons.
We have to have something to gain otherwise we wouldn't bother helping out, which is quite painful really. At the end of the day a good deed is being done by saving lives, but you have to feel that there is something economically beneficial in this too.
Sort of what i meant, just in a less ragey way.They arent beneficial in terms of trading, as you say. I know people don't like it but its got to be a reason why. I know we need to stop Gaddafi but if the UN is so hellbent on stopping evil leaders then why not enforce Zimbabwe/Burma/Somalia/Sudan etc where its been going on forever and a day.
Fact is - UN stops Gaddafi = happy trading for all us capitalist nations. Hurrah.
Not saying that I'm against the UN going in and halting the mess that Libya is in, or at least trying to, I think its about time they did something worthwile.
A Libyan air force base outside Misrata was one of the targets of the first night of air and missile strikes by the coalition. Misrata has been under siege by government troops for more than a week, and witnesses have said the bombardment is continuing. Switzerland-based Libyan activist Fathi al-Warfali told the Associated Press: "Misrata is the only city in western Libya not under Gaddafi's control; he is trying hard to change its position."
Im more angry at the lack of consistency shown.From Brian onward, there is so much there i agree, with, and Joe, totally understand your raginess, Rwanda today still leaves me fuming. But the sad truth is that these things are so costly we can never be truly altrustic, there will often be some inevitable gain
doesnt bother me what other reasons they are there for, as long as it stops the slaughter of civilians
haha, they arnt there to stop the slaughter of civilians and they wont stop it either
anyway these civilians that are being slaughtered arnt people trying to peacefully get on with their lives, they're idiots running round with AKs trying to attack the army, if people want to arm themselves and attack their government then they cant complain when their government trys to defend itself
if every Labour/Lib Dem voter picked up automatic weapons and tried to charge down to no. 10 and lynch Cameron you can bet your bottom dollar that he would call in his army to defend himself too
haha, they arnt there to stop the slaughter of civilians and they wont stop it either
anyway these civilians that are being slaughtered arnt people trying to peacefully get on with their lives, they're idiots running round with AKs trying to attack the army, if people want to arm themselves and attack their government then they cant complain when their government trys to defend itself
if every Labour/Lib Dem voter picked up automatic weapons and tried to charge down to no. 10 and lynch Cameron you can bet your bottom dollar that he would call in his army to defend himself too
haha, they arnt there to stop the slaughter of civilians and they wont stop it either
anyway these civilians that are being slaughtered arnt people trying to peacefully get on with their lives, they're idiots running round with AKs trying to attack the army, if people want to arm themselves and attack their government then they cant complain when their government trys to defend itself
if every Labour/Lib Dem voter picked up automatic weapons and tried to charge down to no. 10 and lynch Cameron you can bet your bottom dollar that he would call in his army to defend himself too