Coalition launches Libya attacks

[GodCubed]

In ideal world we would all
I dont have idea whats Balamory, but i get the point.
Yes, you need to have faith where I live. Its the only way. I've seen the war, I felt the war and I know what war brings better than any of you! Let me ask you something, is it wrong to dream about better world ?

No, it isn't. However, it isn't going to solve anything. We need to go out and MAKE it a better world, rather than sitting around dreaming about making it one.

 

[Mike.]

Latest set of updates:

11.22pm: News is trickling in about the targets of tonight's attacks. Mohammed Ali, a spokesman for the exiled opposition group the Libyan Salvation Front, said the Libyan air force headquarters at the Mateiga air base in eastern Tripoli and the Aviation Academy in Misrata had both been targeted.

11.15pm: Reuters interviews people in Benghazi and they respond with enthusiasm to today's air and missile strikes against the Gaddafi regime:

Iyad Ali, 37, unemployed: "We think this will end Gaddafi's rule. Libyans will never forget France's stand with them. If it weren't for them, then Benghazi would have been overrun tonight."

Khalid al-Ghurfaly, 38, civil servant: "We salute, France, Britain, the United States and the Arab countries for standing with Libya. But we think Gaddafi will take out his anger on civilians. So the West has to hit him hard."

Faraj Omar, 55, engineer: "We've all seen the news but we'll see what the results are later. To have any effect Gaddafi must be hit in Aziziyah, this is the head of the snake," he said referring to Gaddafi's heavily-fortified Tripoli compound.

11.05pm: Libyan state television is claiming that a French jet was shot down over Libya today. The French immediately denied it, and there's no evidence to support the Libyan claim.

11pm: Libya's air defences have been "severely disabled" in today's attacks, Reuters quotes an unidentified US official as saying:

Muammar Gaddafi's air defenses have been "severely disabled" by a barrage of US-led missile strikes launched on Saturday, a US national security official said. "Qaddafi's air defense systems have been severely disabled. It's too soon to predict what he and his ground forces may do in response to today's strikes," the source said on condition of anonymity.

10.50pm: Qatar and the UAE will be sending forces to the no-fly zone. AFP is reporting that the United Arab Emirates will be contributing 24 fighter jets – Mirage 2000-9s and F-16s – while Qatar will contribute between four and six Mirage 2000-5s, according to a French official.

10.45pm: Al-Jazeera has announced that a British journalist was among the group of four arrested and detained by Libyan forces in Tripoli today.

Al-Jazeera said Kamel Atalua was a cameraman for the network, and was arrested with cameraman Ammar al-Hamdan, who is Norwegian, and correspondents Lotfi al-Messaoudi and Ahmed Vall Ould Addin, who are Tunisian and Mauritanian nationals. The group had been reporting from Libya for several days.

10.36pm: Listening to Gaddafi's address – conducted over the phone but broadcast on state television – it was only three minutes long but in every other respect it was vintage Gaddafi.

There as a chilling warning of the danger to civilians throughout the Mediterranean, saying: "Targets in the Mediterranean are under threat" because of the "unjustified, mad aggression".

10.30pm: There are reports that a Libyan journalist, who ran a website detailing the Gaddafi regime's attacks and providing commentary on the uprising, was killed on Saturday in Benghazi.

Mohammed al-Nabbous, who founded a livestream channel called Libya al-Hurra, or Free Libya, is said to have been hit by sniper fire as Gaddafi's forces attacked the city.

 

[GodCubed]

Also, did anyone see that government plane being shot down by the rebels? Majorly impressive, they must've found (read: stolen) some kind of anti-air weaponry to do that. Small arms just wouldn't hack it.

 

[Mike.]

Also, did anyone see that government plane being shot down by the rebels? Majorly impressive, they must've found (read: stolen) some kind of anti-air weaponry to do that. Small arms just wouldn't hack it.

apparently its a rebel plane shot down by the government, some of the air force have defected

 

[drezzy86]

Good Stuff,

 

[Joel`]

Also, did anyone see that government plane being shot down by the rebels? Majorly impressive, they must've found (read: stolen) some kind of anti-air weaponry to do that. Small arms just wouldn't hack it.

I thought Gaddafi's men shot it down because the pilot defected to the rebels? Or is this something different?

 

[GazaLaad]

What gives us the right to invade other countries we should stay out of this if they want to blow each other up let them its not our problem!!!

 

[GazaLaad]

What gives us the right to invade other countries we should stay out of this if they want to blow each other up let them its not our problem!!!

 

[Vanjagl]

Read it again, please. Invasion is different from attacking. We have "attacked" government forces killing civilians. We have no invaded, and will not.



Sigh. Nobody controls the UN. Everyone has a vote, and the majority voted to help the Libyan people.

So what, the US sold you weapons to fight each other. The US sell weapons to everyone who wants them. The US sold weapons to the Irish to fight us, the UK. I'm not going to hold a grudge against them for it.

Don't you see? It is rather hard to give the Libyan people food and water without getting shot at by government soldiers who don't want you to give it to them. This is WHY we're attacking their army, to be able to aid the Libyans.



Right then. So why do you object? You object because we buy oil off them. Well, see the quoted post for my response.



They won't.

Nobody controles EU, you are so naive, sigh.
So what if US sold us weapon. Are you serious ? They helped us to start a war with that weapon.
And again, you are killing some libyans to save sone Libians. Facepalm

You act like we haven't tried. Do you think we just decided to go in all Gung-Ho because we fancied some military action to liven up Saturday night? Go read some of Gadaffi's statements, the man is a lunatic and isn't open to any sort of negotiations. Generally, when you get threatened with major military action, lie to those threatening at and proceed with civil war, you come into the classification of being **** suicidal.

I agree, he is madman. But killing is wrong. How would you felt is someone kill member of your familiy? And UN is killing to stop killing. It just doesnt make sence to me.

 

[GazaLaad]

What gives us the right to invade any country if they want to kill each other let them its not our problem!!

 

[phila001]

at the end of this when ever it comes im sure your here story of corruption and stuff about oil or sumthing dogie
as far as i can see we did everything in the book before send military action.
it's nothing like the IRAQ war (totally bullshit)
and it's backed by the UN so it when down the right channels before make any big decision!

 

[Mike.]

Nobody controles EU, you are so naive, sigh.
So what if US sold us weapon. Are you serious ? They helped us to start a war with that weapon.
And again, you are killing some libyans to save sone Libians. Facepalm



I agree, he is madman. But killing is wrong. How would you felt is someone kill member of your familiy? And UN is killing to stop killing. It just doesnt make sence to me.

how is that faceplam, use your head. killing a small number of lybain troop >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> watch large number lybian civilians die

You call Godcubed naive, yet i feel you are the one being naive here. tell me please, how you stop a man who is intent on killing people, and not loking for peace

 

[Vanjagl]

Also, did anyone see that government plane being shot down by the rebels? Majorly impressive, they must've found (read: stolen) some kind of anti-air weaponry to do that. Small arms just wouldn't hack it.

It was rebels plane I think ? they even confirmed that.
FM Base is really slow. **** it

 

[Joel`]

Nobody controles EU, you are so naive, sigh.
So what if US sold us weapon. Are you serious ? They helped us to start a war with that weapon.
And again, you are killing some libyans to save sone Libians. Facepalm



I agree, he is madman. But killing is wrong. How would you felt is someone kill member of your familiy? And UN is killing to stop killing. It just doesnt make sence to me.

We're aiming to stop Gaddafi slaughtering his own people, we're not murdering them for the fun of it. Should we just let this go on? For how long? Gaddafi won't give up. If we don't intervene, then people will be living each day losing their family. How would you feel? It doesn't make sense to me to sit back and watch this unfold so we can ride our pacifist horses high.

 

[pistolped7]

What gives us the right to invade any country if they want to kill each other let them its not our problem!!

Wow. Are you really that silly?
Thousands of innocent Libyan citizens are being brutally slaughtered by a ruthless, bloodthirsty dictator, in a bid for him to keep hold of his horrific dictatorship. Their only crime was opposing the way in which he runs the nation.

And here sits the UK, with the manpower and resources with which to do something to help these people. But no, it's only a wee African country, it's not our problem. oO)

 

[Vanjagl]

how is that faceplam, use your head. killing a small number of lybain troop >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> watch large number lybian civilians die

You call Godcubed naive, yet i feel you are the one being naive here. tell me please, how you stop a man who is intent on killing people, and not loking for peace

You are not listening. I agree, he needs to go down. But I can aprove killing. Not from Gaddafi (sp) not from EU.

 

[GodCubed]

I thought Gaddafi's men shot it down because the pilot defected to the rebels? Or is this something different?

Must've got the wrong end of the stick. Good to see the rebels gaining in power though.

What gives us the right to invade other countries we should stay out of this if they want to blow each other up let them its not our problem!!!

Sigh. Not invading. Also, we've already gone over why.

Nobody controles EU, you are so naive, sigh.
So what if US sold us weapon. Are you serious ? They helped us to start a war with that weapon.
And again, you are killing some libyans to save sone Libians. Facepalm

Way to pick out quotes and ignore the main gist of the argument. However.

I didn't say EU, I said UN. And nobody controls the UN. I'm not naive, you're a ****** conspiracy theorist.

I am serious. The US do it to just about everyone. The fact they sold you weapons is completely beside the point. They didn't start a war and then move in to keep the peace. They sold you the weapons, and then the UN moved in the keep the peace.

I agree, he is madman. But killing is wrong. How would you felt is someone kill member of your familiy? And UN is killing to stop killing. It just doesnt make sence to me.

We. Have. Already. Gone. Over. This.

We tried all peaceful avenues, and they were rebuffed. With a heavy heart we do this, but it is something we HAVE to do. No other options.

 

[Vroteier9]

What gives us the right to invade any country if they want to kill each other let them its not our problem!!

Your absolutely right I'm 100% sure that the Libyan civilians want to get killed.

 

[GodCubed]

You are not listening. I agree, he needs to go down. But I can aprove killing. Not from Gaddafi (sp) not from EU.

No, YOU are not listening. At this moment in time, we have two options. Either move in with military force to keep the peace and stop deaths, or let them die.

Thank god it isn't your choice.

 

[Fraz100]

As this is just the first phase of a "multi phase" plan unless gadaffi agrees to "peace"(which I highly doubt it) More missles will probably be sent, which will probably end up with us sending soldiers.