DEMOLISHER !

[omrgul]

As I said If you do proper squad building and proper squad rotation then you can dominate this game and win everything with any average tactic and I’ve done that many times with tactics that were much weaker than Demolisher tactic because proper squad building and proper squad rotation gives you huge advantage over AI that is always poor at these areas, when you do proper squad building you are protected from unlucky injuries/bans streak but AI aren’t and when you do proper squad rotation then you always can have “extra” advantage over AI in some important match by using players that have Condition 3-5% more than the opposition player and that’s enough to have some solid advantage over AI in that match.

Great !!! Thanks so much for the continued insight about this game.

Please guide us, does re-training a new position cost CA or PA points for a player or not?

Also, during the time a player is being trained to a new position, its speeded up if you play him in that new position as well. If we aren't doing that, does it significantly slows down the learning of new position?

And, during the time of re-training a new position, can a player's performance decrease when being played in natural position?

By the way, if player is not playing at "Natural" position, say at a position which is only "Accomplished", then are we really gaining something when he is not going to play at his 100% even though his condition is a bit higher than the first-choice player with lesser condition, but rating of "Natural" at that specific position. So, can we expect (in your example) Saul with 95% condition going to play better than Felipe with 90% condition at WBL?

 

[chatin]

Rotating the players is even worse for me. I have not won a match away

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[TotalFootballFan9]

does re-training a new position cost CA or PA points for a player or not?

Hey mate,

I’d say that “re-training” is a wrong word to describe that process because you actually don’t “re-train” players to new positions you simply “add” new positions to their list of positions.

When you start a new save every player has some specific unique set of positions that attached to this player and if you don’t do any position training for a player then his rating for all the default stays constant all the time and it doesn’t decline or increase.

Everything different when it comes to positions that were trained during the game, it might decline and in order to prevent it from declining a player should have high “Versatility” attribute or he should constantly train this position or he should play at this position.

PA is a constant; it never changes no matter what; this number reflects the maximum CA that a player can reach.

Also, during the time a player is being trained to a new position, its speeded up if you play him in that new position as well. If we aren't doing that, does it significantly slows down the learning of new position?

The total amount of positions that a player can play and his hidden attribute “Versatility” determines the rate at which the player learns a new position; If a player also plays at the new position that he trains then it speeds up the rate of learning this position

As I already said “Versatility” determines how fast the rating for the new position declines if the players stops train this new position or if he doesn’t play at it.

And, during the time of re-training a new position, can a player's performance decrease when being played in natural position?

As I already said “re-train” is a wrong word because you don’t “re-train” players, you just “add” a new position to the players’ position list, and when you do that it only can increase player's training workload but it doesn’t affect directly his performance at his natural position during matches.

By the way, if player is not playing at "Natural" position, say at a position which is only "Accomplished", then are we really gaining something when he is not going to play at his 100% even though his condition is a bit higher than the first-choice player with lesser condition, but rating of "Natural" at that specific position. So, can we expect (in your example) Saul with 95% condition going to play better than Felipe with 90% condition at WBL?

If a player plays at position when he’s got only “Accomplished” rating then only some of his mental attributes will be affected and I'd say the difference between “Accomplished” and “Natural” is about 10-15%.

 

[TotalFootballFan9]

does re-training a new position cost CA or PA points for a player or not?

The way the positions’ rating affects CA is very complicated; some Attributes have different CA price for different positions, for example, “Finishing” and “Long Shots” almost don’t cost CA for a player who can play only Central Defender position but if you train this player to play Striker position then his attributes will change because they won’t fit into his CA due the change of CA price for some attributes such as “Finishing” and “Long Shots” because these attributes cost a lot of CA for Striker position.

Also, after some number of positions each additional position starts to cost some small number of CA.

BUT YOU NEED TO KNOW ONLY ONE THING if you add only 1 additional position to the player’s default list of positions as I suggested then you shouldn’t worry about any serious changes in the player’s attributes; in most of cases there won’t be any changes at all or there’s just minimal, speaking other words, the price for that won't be more that 2-4% of CA which is extremely small amount compare with advantages it gives.

 

[ibro46]

anyone else thinking that V6 and V7 version of strikerless is weaker than V5 !?

 

[mielony84]

Striker V8
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[omrgul]

The way the positions’ rating affects CA is very complicated; some Attributes have different CA price for different positions, for example, “Finishing” and “Long Shots” almost don’t cost CA for a player who can play only Central Defender position but if you train this player to play Striker position then his attributes will change because they won’t fit into his CA due the change of CA price for some attributes such as “Finishing” and “Long Shots” because these attributes cost a lot of CA for Striker position.

Also, after some number of positions each additional position starts to cost some small number of CA.

BUT YOU NEED TO KNOW ONLY ONE THING if you add only 1 additional position to the player’s default list of positions as I suggested then you shouldn’t worry about any serious changes in the player’s attributes; in most of cases there won’t be any changes at all or there’s just minimal, speaking other words, the price for that won't be more that 2-4% of CA which is extremely small amount compare with advantages it gives.

thanks for the detailed responses and sharing your insight of the game.

Much appreciated.

 

[Burning]

Mate, here's distribution of Goals and Assists in the Striker version after 85 matches, the same starting eleven was used for all 85 matches

Players at STC/AMCL/AMCR positions have identical attributes and the only difference between them is their main foot.

As you can see in the Striker version STC position scores almost as twice as often than AMCL/AMCR positions so it would be wise to put your best scorer at STC position.

That's a great info, TFF! Do you have similar stats for Strikerless version? Could you share it?

Thanks!

 

[TotalFootballFan9]

That's a great info, TFF! Do you have similar stats for Strikerless version? Could you share it?

Thanks!

Hey mate,

Sure, I've got it.

Here's Goals and Assists distribution across positions for Strikerless version.

Conditions are the same: the same starting eleven was used for all 85 matches and the players at AMC/AMCL/AMCR positions have identical attributes and the only difference between them is their main foot.

thanks for the detailed responses and sharing your insight of the game.

Much appreciated.

You are welcome, mate.

 

[tzahy]

Hey TFF , mate thanks alot for sharing your tactics with us and your idea. thanks buddy

 

[Moon Man]

Southampton, the 1st season

 

[Patrico91]

The way the positions’ rating affects CA is very complicated; some Attributes have different CA price for different positions, for example, “Finishing” and “Long Shots” almost don’t cost CA for a player who can play only Central Defender position but if you train this player to play Striker position then his attributes will change because they won’t fit into his CA due the change of CA price for some attributes such as “Finishing” and “Long Shots” because these attributes cost a lot of CA for Striker position.

Also, after some number of positions each additional position starts to cost some small number of CA.

BUT YOU NEED TO KNOW ONLY ONE THING if you add only 1 additional position to the player’s default list of positions as I suggested then you shouldn’t worry about any serious changes in the player’s attributes; in most of cases there won’t be any changes at all or there’s just minimal, speaking other words, the price for that won't be more that 2-4% of CA which is extremely small amount compare with advantages it gives.

Hello TFF, i have a question about this positions and ca/pa. If i change in fmrte and add few posistions for a player so then he wont develop as good as he could because i used some % of his PA and used it in fmrte for new positions or am i wrong?

 

[mikeruttz]

Honestly have no idea why these tactics have been updated from Striker V4 and Strikerless V3
Ive just won the Champions League with Wolves in 2020 XD
Best tactics on 17 easy

 

[TotalFootballFan9]

Hello TFF, i have a question about this positions and ca/pa. If i change in fmrte and add few posistions for a player so then he wont develop as good as he could because i used some % of his PA and used it in fmrte for new positions or am i wrong?

Hey,

Let's say Player A has 160CA and 180PA

His all current attributes and all current positions match exactly his 160CA, everything in balance

You make changes by using FMRTE and add few Natural positions with “20” rating but don’t change anything else.

The effect of your action would be declining of his attributes after some time when the game recalculates his attributes and his positions to match his 160CA

New positions costs some CA(let's say 3CA) and this CA will be taken from his current 160CA - 3CA so in that case there'll left only 157CA for his attributes so they slightly decline but his overall CA will stay the same 160CA

Please notice that adding new position won’t affect his development rate it's a different matter.

 

[kidmiz]

TFF mate i managed to promote Worcester city from Vanarama national league north to sky bet league 1 using your tactics but without using the filters; i was buying players only according to their CA using genie scout, but i decided to start using filters in sky bet league 1, unfortunately results starts going from bad to worst
I don't know why :'( normally they should go better
please note that i'm using filters As you adviced me last time

If no players show up in the searching filed or you want more choice then I suggest reducing “Match Conditions” no more than 4 conditions and if you already have the Match Conditions reduced by 4 conditions and still no players show up in the searching field then you should start reducing the attributes and when you do that I suggest following this guide:

1) Reduce all attributes by 1 point

2) If still no players show up in the searching filed then reduce all Mental Attributes(except Team Work and Work Rate) by 2 points. Please notice that you also should have the match conditions reduced by 4 conditions.

3) If still no players show in the searching field then reduce All Mental Attributes (except Team Work and Work Rate) and all Technical Attributes by 1 point and repeat this process until you find someone. Please notice that you also should have the match conditions reduced by 4 conditions.

 

[Patrico91]

Hey,

Let's say Player A has 160CA and 180PA

His all current attributes and all current positions match exactly his 160CA, everything in balance

You make changes by using FMRTE and add few Natural positions with “20” rating but don’t change anything else.

The effect of your action would be declining of his attributes after some time when the game recalculates his attributes and his positions to match his 160CA

New positions costs some CA(let's say 3CA) and this CA will be taken from his current 160CA - 3CA so in that case there'll left only 157CA for his attributes so they slightly decline but his overall CA will stay the same 160CA

Please notice that adding new position won’t affect his development rate it's a different matter.

Thanks for help and knowledge. Well it can affect his development because if his CA will drop little bit then automatically his PA will be looking worse than it could? Also i am curious what is the most important thing for developing young talents.

 

[chatin]

FM Touch. Why so much difference with the normal version?

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[dannymunna]

Ajax squad is amazing with this tactic. Switching between the strikerless and Overload tactics. Won the CL in season 2018/2019 with amazing results!

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[Keno777]

Using Real Madrid with the Strikerless version 7. Will report back after season 1

 

[hlclifford]

****, i just realize the new PPM for the CMR (BWM) is different with the earlier versions. No wonder i been getting worse result than before. I have get forward whenever possible and play one two on all my CM. ZZZZ