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i dont actually think it maters who wears the armband. you think terry is not gonna be shouting to the defence, rooney wont be screaming at everyone to stop strolling round the pitch etc, because they are not wearing the armband?
 
I disagree, I think Rio Ferdinand is overrated and I am glad he is injured. Hopefully now we won't concede as many without that liability at the back.

Ledley King for captain.

of course your entitled to your opinion although i have a feeling many people would disagree with you.
I agree with Billy Redrup, I think Ferdinand is overrated and Ledley King would be a great replacement. However, overrated or not, Ferdinand is still vital to England even though he isn't as vital as the media make it. Remember in (2003?) when the FA left him out of the squad against Turkey because he missed a drug test and they lost. Although, his ability, skill and form has dropped quite a bit since then.
I personally don't think Gerrard should be captain (even though he is a Liverpool player) as I think Ledley King could do better. When King isn't playing, I think Gerrard should fill in as captain. I also prefer captains who play in defence. Hope Ferdinand is fine though.
 
Try Maradona in 86. He dragged an average team to win.

Who gave Greece a hope in hells chance of winning the European Championships. Anyone can do it so please get behind the team.

I was talking about England. By the way, there's a difference - Maradona was, at the time, the best player in the world. Ferdinand isn't even close. With the Greece thing, I think the team were good, but I don't think Zagorakis exactly carried them to the title. With England, unlike Greece, there's no "surprise package" - there's a pretty much tried and tested squad, and that squad, in my opinion, isn't capable of winning the World Cup.
 
I'll be watching for the entertainment value, and I'll be happy if England do well, but I don't see how they can possibly win. The squad just isn't good enough in my opinion, and I don't think who's captain will change that. Although when England do get knocked out, I'll be here for a routine "I told you so".
no **** the odds are against us. spain and brazil stand out and there 5 or 6 sides at our ability. so what? doesnt mean we cant win it. we have no idea how the teams will perform on the day. if wec an play at our best we are a match for almost any team
 
i dont actually think it maters who wears the armband. you think terry is not gonna be shouting to the defence, rooney wont be screaming at everyone to stop strolling round the pitch etc, because they are not wearing the armband?

This. Who's captain doesn't make any difference to what Terry does, and what Rooney does... Does the captaincy really make that much difference? No.
 
i agree, Rio hasn't been on form this season but are people forgetting, unlike Gerrard, Rio has been injured a lot this season, on his day Rio is one of the best center backs in the world and him and Terry in the back four make it a better back four. Rio is England captain whether you lot like it or not or rate him or not, i admit i was shocked when he was announced as captain but he was and he is vital to Englands chances this summer
 
I agree with Billy Redrup, I think Ferdinand is overrated and Ledley King would be a great replacement. However, overrated or not, Ferdinand is still vital to England even though he isn't as vital as the media make it. Remember in (2003?) when the FA left him out of the squad against Turkey because he missed a drug test and they lost. Although, his ability, skill and form has dropped quite a bit since then.
I personally don't think Gerrard should be captain (even though he is a Liverpool player) as I think Ledley King could do better. When King isn't playing, I think Gerrard should fill in as captain. I also prefer captains who play in defence. Hope Ferdinand is fine though.
his skill has dropped since then?! ferdinand was at his best after that
 
This. Who's captain doesn't make any difference to what Terry does, and what Rooney does... Does the captaincy really make that much difference? No.
Mate it's obvious that you are a bit bitter after Terry's removal as captain, as a Chelsea fan, and I understand that. But you don't have to keep arguing for no reason.

i agree, Rio hasn't been on form this season but are people forgetting, unlike Gerrard, Rio has been injured a lot this season, on his day Rio is one of the best center backs in the world and him and Terry in the back four make it a better back four. Rio is England captain whether you lot like it or not or rate him or not, i admit i was shocked when he was announced as captain but he was and he is vital to Englands chances this summer
Gerrard was injured a lot this season and on his day he can be one of the best captains and players in the world. FA Cup Final 2006? What about Ferdinand then?

his skill has dropped since then?! ferdinand was at his best after that
That's just my opinion, it may be wrong, it may be right. I have to admit he had a great 2 seasons (2007/8 and 2008/9) but now the Man United defence isn't as good as it was before.
 
Gerrard was injured a lot this season and on his day he can be one of the best captains and players in the world. FA Cup Final 2006? What about Ferdinand then?

That was 2006, it is now 2010. Things have changed and Gerrard has looked lost alot of this season, a few good performances granted. I deffinately think he should be starting and he's one of our best players but judging purely on this season he isn't all it and a bag of chips.
 
That's just my opinion, it may be wrong, it may be right. I have to admit he had a great 2 seasons (2007/8 and 2008/9) but now the Man United defence isn't as good as it was before.

Really? With all the injury problems we had, still we were the best in the league.
 
Mate it's obvious that you are a bit bitter after Terry's removal as captain, as a Chelsea fan, and I understand that. But you don't have to keep arguing for no reason.

I'm not bitter, at all. I just don't think this whole captain thing should matter so much to people because I don't think it makes such a huge difference to the teams performance. Just because I'm a Chelsea fan doesn't mean I can't have that opinion. If Terry had never been captain, I would still think this, because its just a massive fuss over what's pretty much nothing. I'm not arguing for no reason - I'm arguing because I think that its stupid that there has to be such a huge story about who is captain, and to be honest, its pointless.
 
That was 2006, it is now 2010. Things have changed and Gerrard has looked lost alot of this season, a few good performances granted. I deffinately think he should be starting and he's one of our best players but judging purely on this season he isn't all it and a bag of chips.
Yeah, but the fact is, Ferdinand isn't that good now either, not saying he's bad, but I don't think he's world class. Also, I said, on his day, he can be the best in the world.
 
I'm not bitter, at all. I just don't think this whole captain thing should matter so much to people because I don't think it makes such a huge difference to the teams performance. Just because I'm a Chelsea fan doesn't mean I can't have that opinion. If Terry had never been captain, I would still think this, because its just a massive fuss over what's pretty much nothing. I'm not arguing for no reason - I'm arguing because I think that its stupid that there has to be such a huge story about who is captain, and to be honest, its pointless.

it simply does matter though. look at all the successful teams, they have all had world class captain, people who know how to life the team, people who make other players want to play under them. look at chelsea and manchester united, john terry obviously captain has a huge impact on the side when he is captain, barcelona and puyol are the same.
 
Mate it's obvious that you are a bit bitter after Terry's removal as captain, as a Chelsea fan, and I understand that. But you don't have to keep arguing for no reason.


Gerrard was injured a lot this season and on his day he can be one of the best captains and players in the world. FA Cup Final 2006? What about Ferdinand then?


That's just my opinion, it may be wrong, it may be right. I have to admit he had a great 2 seasons (2007/8 and 2008/9) but now the Man United defence isn't as good as it was before.
you mean the united defence with the best defensive record in the league. i dont wanna take this off topic, so im just gonna say you're wrong on that front

anyway untill we actually hear some definifinite news on the injury we are jumping the gun a bit

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it simply does matter though. look at all the successful teams, they have all had world class captain, people who know how to life the team, people who make other players want to play under them. look at chelsea and manchester united, john terry obviously captain has a huge impact on the side when he is captain, barcelona and puyol are the same.
i think his point is armband or not, there are those who are leaders on the pitch, and they will act like leaders anyway. terry wont stop being a leader just because he isnt wearing the armband.
 
it simply does matter though. look at all the successful teams, they have all had world class captain, people who know how to life the team, people who make other players want to play under them. look at chelsea and manchester united, john terry obviously captain has a huge impact on the side when he is captain, barcelona and puyol are the same.

This.

Of course it matters who the skipper is!

If that wasn't the case, they might as well drop Rio and give me a ring.
 
Ferdinand hasn't been solid at all last season and in the two England friendlies against Mexico and Japan and I doubt that form would change. I would certainly prefer King to be in the starting line-up and Dawson to be his replacement player in the 23 man squad, assuming the injury is serious.
 
you mean the united defence with the best defensive record in the league. i dont wanna take this off topic, so im just gonna say you're wrong on that front

anyway untill we actually hear some definifinite news on the injury we are jumping the gun a bit

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i think his point is armband or not, there are those who are leaders on the pitch, and they will act like leaders anyway. terry wont stop being a leader just because he isnt wearing the armband.

of course they will, the way he is sounding though makes it sound as if it doesnt matter who is captain of a team because a captain doesnt make a difference. if thats the case, would you make someone like joe hart captain of the side this world cup? no of course you wouldnt.
 
This.

Of course it matters who the skipper is!

If that wasn't the case, they might as well drop Rio and give me a ring.
eh, that makes no sense, since armband or not ferdinand is a good defender.

if you have natural leaders in the teams it doesnt matter whos wearing the armband.
 
When the chips are down you need an inspirational leader to get the team motivated on a pitch. A captain does count on so many levels.
 
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