Yes but first priority is obviously got to be club. You can't define a player from where you play him for his country. And what's to say he isn't versatile enough to do both. Schweinstieger for example, played for Bayern as an Attacking Mid, yet he sits in the hole with Khedira for Germany.i just dont trust barry full stop, but right now i dont know what other option we have, barry in a 3 man mid is less open than barry in a 2 man mid
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not sure what the video is about, but the point is where moyes plays him and where he would play for england are two different roles. moyes wants him to be a lampard-esque player
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Richards-Terry-Ferdinand- Gibbs
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Johnson-----Gerrard-------Young
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Is what we could go for. Just leaves me feeling uneasy about the double pivot
Literally **** Barry, wack Henderson in. Please tell me what harm could be done? Barry does **** all for England and is so negative in his passing, and loses it way too often. Granted he reads the game pretty well, usually, but I think the input Barry gives to England, Henderson is more than capable of matching.---------------Hart-----------------
Richards-Terry-Ferdinand- Gibbs
-----------Barry-Wilshere----------
Johnson-----Gerrard-------Young
------------Agbonlahor----------
Is what we could go for. Just leaves me feeling uneasy about the double pivot
actually that season he was playing deep for bayern too then went on to do so for bayernYes but first priority is obviously got to be club. You can't define a player from where you play him for his country. And what's to say he isn't versatile enough to do both. Schweinstieger for example, played for Bayern as an Attacking Mid, yet he sits in the hole with Khedira for Germany.
I really don't see your point.
we did that with lampard instead of henderson, didnt work out too wellLiterally **** Barry, wack Henderson in. Please tell me what harm could be done? Barry does **** all for England and is so negative in his passing, and loses it way too often. Granted he reads the game pretty well, usually, but I think the input Barry gives to England, Henderson is more than capable of matching.
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P.S give it 5 months and they'll be talking about Beckford for the England squad. Guranteed.
1st. Precisely my point, Schweinstieger was versatile enough to fit Bayerns need for his team. Who's to say next season Schweinstieger won't be reverted to AMC, as Rodwell could quite easily do.actually that season he was playing deep for bayern too then went on to do so for bayern
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we did that with lampard instead of henderson, didnt work out too well
you want someone who is happy to hold position in that 2.
two different positions, micah richards will play right back (finally)Wanna see Richards get his chance. He deserves another chance more than smalling in my opinion.
but hes not even playing there, thats my point, bastian was for a whole season. if rodwell actually plays there on a regular basis then yeah, but hes not. hes playing as central mid attack, and then suddenly you expect him to fit in as a deep mid. not gonna happen1st. Precisely my point, Schweinstieger was versatile enough to fit Bayerns need for his team. Who's to say next season Schweinstieger won't be reverted to AMC, as Rodwell could quite easily do.
2nd. Lampard is a different player to Henderson, and has always been wank for England.
I beg to differ, and anyway it's a friendly, what better experience than against France. I honestly think the majority of supporters would prefer to play a fresh team with bags of potential give it a shot against some of the worlds best. I think they'd play really well together especially with Young who defensively has also got a lot better tracking back defensively, when he has needed too. The flair and creativity of a 4 pronged midfield of Johnson, Wilshere, Gerrard, Young, backed up by Henderson just behing. Would be really exciting to see, even if it didn't work perfectly at first chance.you play a midfield trio of wilshere gerrard henderson you might as well commit hari kari
you talk about flair and creativity without any thought to the french. you want to put henderson up against gourcuff?I beg to differ, and anyway it's a friendly, what better experience than against France. I honestly think the majority of supporters would prefer to play a fresh team with bags of potential give it a shot against some of the worlds best. I think they'd play really well together especially with Young who defensively has also got a lot better tracking back defensively, when he has needed too. The flair and creativity of a 4 pronged midfield of Johnson, Wilshere, Gerrard, Young, backed up by Henderson just behing. Would be really exciting to see, even if it didn't work perfectly at first chance.
Seemed to deal with Malouda, Zhirkov, Ramires and co earlier with ease.you talk about flair and creativity without any thought to the french. you want to put henderson up against gourcuff?
Well you can take Terry out of your lineup lol.
neither of whom a top class amcs.... and he was deployed alongside a dedicated destroyer in cattermoleSeemed to deal with Malouda, Zhirkov, Ramires and co earlier with ease.
Tottenham played Modric and Huddlestone in centre against Inter Milan and battered them. I think positive is the way forward.So you want to play a double pivot of Henderson and Wilshere? Even on FM your team would get killed
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All worthy of a chance in their own right, but you cant just chuck good players into a team and expect it to work. A designated destroyer up against Gourcuff is an absolute MUST in my opinion. ****, even with one it might not be enough considering how poor Barry is defensively
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Why does everyone keep calling him Boothroyd, its Bothroyd |)
Literally **** Barry, wack Henderson in. Please tell me what harm could be done? Barry does **** all for England and is so negative in his passing, and loses it way too often. Granted he reads the game pretty well, usually, but I think the input Barry gives to England, Henderson is more than capable of matching.
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P.S give it 5 months and they'll be talking about Beckford for the England squad. Guranteed.