FM15 Post your Frustrations/Raaaage

[WJ]

I appreciate that some people will moan at the smallest thing but the consistency of this edition I feel is a reason for frustration. If you don't agree then that's fine but it doesn't make someone '****' at the game if you can't create consistency

You have created consistency. You're consistently not winning.

That alone means there's room for improvement. Either your squad isn't good enough (and remember that United are good) and/or your tactics and/or management isn't. Create a thread, post the info and we can all discuss and take a good look at what's going on.

 

[WJ]

It's not that random, he never said it was that random. There often isn't much point in sharing tactics if you dont understand how and why that person has made it and how it links with the players they have and the choices they make, that's why those who know the game the best talk about the concepts of their approach far more than anything else.

He's also not said he's great and everyone is ****. If you really want to learn, cut out the hostile attitude, and actually listen to what he says (not picking out parts in a way you want to hear it), or head over to the SI forum and have a look at the stuff by Cleon, The Hand of God, wwfan etc.

As an aside, I could probably create a set up that could be capable of winning against United (playing on the counter most likely). But what would you learn?

DAVE - this. So much.

If you can head over to the SI forum, you'll be in great hands. There are some great minds who will help you (if you are willing to learn and make the effort) and you'll soon see what's going on.

 

[Mike.]

Excuse me? Where am I being hostile? A quote from him, "Good tactics are consistent. **** tactics just aren't. If I replay the games where I drew, I'm sure I would have won. They just got lucky or my player made 1 mistake etc etc." I'm pointing out that every tactic on this forum can't be ****. I'm merely saying that a tactic in itself should have consistent factors - such as defensively solid or potent in attack...It of course matters if you replay a game 5 times and there's no consistent factor about the same tactic replayed, with the same morale etc. I feel that's a legitimate reason to be frustrated and that was the point of my original post. People have frustrations about that and they get accused at being **** at the game?

I appreciate that some people will moan at the smallest thing but the consistency of this edition I feel is a reason for frustration. If you don't agree then that's fine but it doesn't make someone '****' at the game if you can't create consistency

Dave, i think you need to reassess your own abilities here, he's just shown you a model of consistency. Consistency doesnt even just come down to a good tactic, but the ability to adapt, and good man and sqaud management. I strongly suggest you take in what he says above.

 

[dave256]

It's not random?

There IS consistency. My God, did you not see the screenshot? How much more consistent than that do you want?

**** tactics are not consistent. Good ones are, but even then things won't always go your way. ****, it happens IRL too.

It's a SIMULATION about FOOTBALL MANAGEMENT, not just tactics.

How can you learn?

1 - Starting line ups. I win a lot of my games before the kick off - picking the right players for the job. Pay attention to the likely match ups.

2 - Watch the games. Not Key highlights. Not even Extended. At the very least, Comprehensive. Pay attention to the players who find space in their team. Pay attention to the players who aren't in yours. Pay attention to the players you have who do find space and what options they have then. Pay attention to both D-Lines. Is yours too high; too low? Is theirs high and vulnerable to through balls? Deep, needing your forward players to pull them apart before a midfielder breaks through?

In short, there's a lot you can do, but watching the games and paying attention is so important. I've said it here and on SI - a lot of what I know came from just watching matches. I watched full matches and a lot of them. I didn't progress as fast as everyone else, but I learned to the point where I now understand tactics in general so I can get away with watching less.

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I'm not saying "I'm great" and "everyone else is ****". I'm saying you're blaming the game when it isn't the game. I could probably beat them though. What I won't do is "make you a tactic", because that's stupid. I don't know your squad and their attributes. I don't know how you've handled them through team talks and press conferences up to now. I don't know the United line up, formation or anything else about them. You want me to just randomly give you a "super" tactic? Not gonna happen. There's a downloads section for **** like that.

Also, I'm not sure you well you're doing but United are a good team. They're at home. They will be strong. Why are you so hung up on winning? Take whatever happens and move on. Even a draw is a good result. If you lose though, so what?

Tell you what - if you post the PKM and screenshot of the tactic for the match (or matches), I'll (or anyone else) can take a look and analyse it for you.

Even better, if you upload the save, I can take a look directly at the situation you're facing right before the United game.

Ok, that's fair enough and I'd appreciate some understanding. I'm not new to this game and so I of course watch the games in full. I actually appreciate your response this time and I wasn't meaning to be hostile, if that's how it's taken, but I feel the frustration is legitimate. I can't upload a save but I play on FMC for the Man Utd test just to test it out and so team talks, OI blabla don't come into it. Morale is the same every game. I can understand what you're saying that I can just move on but what do I learn from that? I'll post what instructions/player roles I've been using and I'd actually appreciate if you can give me advice on 'mistakes' or how to improve if you wouldn't mind? My personal bug bear is this one **** game haha

If you can get me a consistent result then my hats off to you and I'll take everything I said about this thing back

 

[WJ]

Ok, that's fair enough and I'd appreciate some understanding. I'm not new to this game and so I of course watch the games in full. I actually appreciate your response this time and I wasn't meaning to be hostile, if that's how it's taken, but I feel the frustration is legitimate. I can't upload a save but I play on FMC for the Man Utd test just to test it out and so team talks, OI blabla don't come into it. Morale is the same every game. I can understand what you're saying that I can just move on but what do I learn from that? I'll post what instructions/player roles I've been using and I'd actually appreciate if you can give me advice on 'mistakes' or how to improve if you wouldn't mind? My personal bug bear is this one **** game haha

If you can get me a consistent result then my hats off to you and I'll take everything I said about this thing back

No worries. I didn't take your posts as hostile. Just stubborn

I'll gladly take a look. Open a new thread and we can get started.

As Mike said though, the SI forum has the great minds. I just signed up here to help with the basics. When it gets really advanced, the SI tactical mods (and some users) can see issues just from one or two screenshots. In those cases I need to watch the games. I'm limited in that way.

Also, more pairs of eyes are better than one!

 

[WJ]

Ok, that's fair enough and I'd appreciate some understanding. I'm not new to this game and so I of course watch the games in full. I actually appreciate your response this time and I wasn't meaning to be hostile, if that's how it's taken, but I feel the frustration is legitimate. I can't upload a save but I play on FMC for the Man Utd test just to test it out and so team talks, OI blabla don't come into it. Morale is the same every game. I can understand what you're saying that I can just move on but what do I learn from that? I'll post what instructions/player roles I've been using and I'd actually appreciate if you can give me advice on 'mistakes' or how to improve if you wouldn't mind? My personal bug bear is this one **** game haha

If you can get me a consistent result then my hats off to you and I'll take everything I said about this thing back

I will admit that I'm in 2026 and it's my 4th season at Ajax, so I've built a good team. Won the CL twice and once a losing finalist and this against better teams than my own. Wiping the floor with everyone for 4 seasons domestically now and the gap between us and everyone else is growing. One game away from an unbeaten league season. My first ever, in any FM. :O

My point is that I'm not in the same situation you're in, so don't feel inadequate because you're not doing as well as my screenshot. It wasn't to brag; it was to show that you can be consistent.

If there are flaws in your tactic, I should be able to pick up what's wrong. If I can't, I'll just re-iterate that it would be great to go ask for advice on the SI forum, as long as you provide the detail right from the start.

 

[dave256]

I will admit that I'm in 2026 and it's my 4th season at Ajax, so I've built a good team. Won the CL twice and once a losing finalist and this against better teams than my own. Wiping the floor with everyone for 4 seasons domestically now and the gap between us and everyone else is growing. One game away from an unbeaten league season. My first ever, in any FM. :O

My point is that I'm not in the same situation you're in, so don't feel inadequate because you're not doing as well as my screenshot. It wasn't to brag; it was to show that you can be consistent.

If there are flaws in your tactic, I should be able to pick up what's wrong. If I can't, I'll just re-iterate that it would be great to go ask for advice on the SI forum, as long as you provide the detail right from the start.

I've posted a new thread in the discussion forum. Apologies if thats the wrong place but I feel it's more discussion right now rather then sharing a tactic? I really won't take any offense if you take it apart or want to offer suggestions as I just want to find something that offers more stability. It's early in the season but the tactic was performing well up untill Man Utd. I thought it was just because they were strong but when I did play on further I also beat Chelsea 5-2 and so I really don't think there's anything glaringly wrong. I've just now made it my mission to find consistency against Man Utd haha

 

[WJ]

I've posted a new thread in the discussion forum. Apologies if thats the wrong place but I feel it's more discussion right now rather then sharing a tactic? I really won't take any offense if you take it apart or want to offer suggestions as I just want to find something that offers more stability. It's early in the season but the tactic was performing well up untill Man Utd. I thought it was just because they were strong but when I did play on further I also beat Chelsea 5-2 and so I really don't think there's anything glaringly wrong. I've just now made it my mission to find consistency against Man Utd haha

It should have gone into Tactical Discussion, although admittedly, it's a mess because people don't read that there are sub-forums in the Tactics section for asking for tactics and tactic sharing.

I've already seen it and I'm busy with my first impressions of it. Hope you're sitting down.

 

[dave256]

It should have gone into Tactical Discussion, although admittedly, it's a mess because people don't read that there are sub-forums in the Tactics section for asking for tactics and tactic sharing.

I've already seen it and I'm busy with my first impressions of it. Hope you're sitting down.

haha You're very right in that I'm stubborn but I'm very open to your criticism and I would really appreciate suggestions, so no worries. I appreciate the help Apologies for posting it in the wrong place and the mods can move it. It's more for your interest and I'd like your input

 

[Mike.]

i'll move it tomorrow evening, in case people are actively commenting on it tonight

 

[r1niceboy]

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I can't believe SI never fixed the penalties bug.

 

[WJ]

I can't believe SI never fixed the penalties bug.

Maybe because it's not that common and maybe because it isn't a simple fix???

I'll just quote myself from 2 months ago:

Penalty success rates are at 85% which isn't too far off real life stats; it's at the upper end of the scale. Some penalty shootouts going on too long is a little annoying but overall it's good.

 

[CantGetEnoughOfJelavic]

I said he'd go if someone made a bid, nothing yet and he's getting restless ._.

 

[dasty]

Can't believe that I have 4 of my CBs got injured and the other 3 got straight red in just 2 games into the season! I have no CBs left for the next few games. Sometimes FM is just daring me to uninstall it.

 

[ColinCalderwood]

Can anyone shed some light on what creates manager points during a season. I'm looking at the manager rank-list, but only info I'm finding is being in the national reputation-pool, It's all very general. Is a more specific manager-ranking available somewhere ingame? Anoying not to know when thinking og switching clubs.


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[CantGetEnoughOfJelavic]

Can't believe that I have 4 of my CBs got injured and the other 3 got straight red in just 2 games into the season! I have no CBs left for the next few games. Sometimes FM is just daring me to uninstall it.

Injuries happen, you see every week in real life one manager or another in a situation where they have a huge injury list and suspensions tbf

 

[gji1992]

Premier leauge clubs are so OP.

I'm in 2020 and I feel SI have overstated the effects of the new TV rights deal.

For instance Bayern Munich are worth £256 million and ranked 12th in the world for finances.

Southampton and Newcastle who are consistently mid table are worth £300 million + each.

Unrealistic much.

Also Bayer Levekursen are rank 2nd for overall reputation in the listing, yet are 28th in the finance ratings and below teams from Saudi Arabia.

Explain anyone?!

 

[lewie100]

Premier leauge clubs are so OP.

I'm in 2020 and I feel SI have overstated the effects of the new TV rights deal.

For instance Bayern Munich are worth £256 million and ranked 12th in the world for finances.

Southampton and Newcastle who are consistently mid table are worth £300 million + each.

Unrealistic much.

Also Bayer Levekursen are rank 2nd for overall reputation in the listing, yet are 28th in the finance ratings and below teams from Saudi Arabia.

Explain anyone?!

Agreed. Tottenham, who have just been relegated to the Championship, are still valued at £458m, above 2 season ago CL winners Wolfsburg... And I got the same situation with Leverkusen, being 8th for reputation, but 41st for finances, below the likes of one-time BPL Sheff Utd!

 

[asxnkmb9]

I said he'd go if someone made a bid, nothing yet and he's getting restless ._.

try to make lots of trade offers for the player that might not even go through. did that for carrick and managed to extend the promise to the next transfer.

 

[Sinnott99]

Agreed. Tottenham, who have just been relegated to the Championship, are still valued at £458m, above 2 season ago CL winners Wolfsburg... And I got the same situation with Leverkusen, being 8th for reputation, but 41st for finances, below the likes of one-time BPL Sheff Utd!

Is this premier op problem only in the new update?