Frankenstein Tactic 3-2-3-2

[champion7891]

Recommendation:

Creating a false 9 I highly recommend using him as an AMC and then use these settings False 9 HERE
I have seen this in action and its perfect - try it out

If you want a goalscoring winger the following settings will help you Goalscoring Winger/Inside FW Settings Here

This is taken from username laffles of fmbase who created these for fm11 I think and I must say they are pretty well made I tried both the false 9 and the goalscoring winger and especially the false 9 is near perfect I think he worked on that one alot.

Here's the whole thread if interested in this resource - its good inspiration - Recreating the legends Thread

Cheers

ps. I'm playing poker at the moment, but it doesn't mean I'm finished playing fm13 - I'm just giving it a rest a little

could these be applied to your 343 tactic?

 

[Ossis Mandos]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]4-2-3-1 tactic. Just finished 1st season with Real Madrid. Scored 120 league goals and won league easily, also won Copa Del Ray.. Did lose in CL Final to Man City... I just can't put my finger on why it didn't do better. Looks great to watch, creates chances and has loads of shots on target, defensive wise is very good, just attacking wise seems to me missing something. League table and overview of season screenshots.

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[jesaustralia]

4-2-3-1 tactic. Just finished 1st season with Real Madrid. Scored 120 league goals and won league easily, also won Copa Del Ray.. Did lose in CL Final to Man City... I just can't put my finger on why it didn't do better. Looks great to watch, creates chances and has loads of shots on target, defensive wise is very good, just attacking wise seems to me missing something. League table and overview of season screenshots.

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Wingers I find very dangerous (Emmerich role) - Pele Role (SC) drags defenders to the sides and leave huge gaps in the opponent defences, but I feel its the only use he has, he could be much more dangerous in front of goal in my opinion and he should - one idea would be to make him another AMC (Messi role) and play it strikerless - Which leads to the AMC (Messi role) not sure about this role either. Anyway maybe drag the striker to the amc slot and copy the amc settings or move the amc to the sc role and copy the pele settings to both.

What worked for you ossis?

ps. These settings were made for fm11 and by no means are wonder settings it was just a fun experiment to see what they would do. A setting i have heard would be very successful is rare throughballsvand should be tested

cheers

 

[jesaustralia]

could these be applied to your 343 tactic?

343 are you referring to the Langvatn tribute?

If yes then i would say the emmerich role and nothing else. In fact for me its the winner of the 3 roles

cheers

 

[Ossis Mandos]

Wingers I find very dangerous (Emmerich role) - Pele Role (SC) drags defenders to the sides and leave huge gaps in the opponent defences, but I feel its the only use he has, he could be much more dangerous in front of goal in my opinion and he should - one idea would be to make him another AMC (Messi role) and play it strikerless - Which leads to the AMC (Messi role) not sure about this role either. Anyway maybe drag the striker to the amc slot and copy the amc settings or move the amc to the sc role and copy the pele settings to both.

What worked for you ossis?

ps. These settings were made for fm11 and by no means are wonder settings it was just a fun experiment to see what they would do. A setting i have heard would be very successful is rare throughballsvand should be tested

cheers

Defense wise it worked great.. The left winger, AMC worked well, Right winger was a bit hit and miss, Striker was hit and miss also. I will say is a good tactic just that attack wise it lacked something that even now I can't work out.. Was fun to try for a season.

 

[champion7891]

343 are you referring to the Langvatn tribute?

If yes then i would say the emmerich role and nothing else. In fact for me its the winner of the 3 roles

cheers

thanks..i am wondering though the settings are given for the TC tactics, how can they be copied correctly for non TC tactics?

 

[jesaustralia]

thanks..i am wondering though the settings are given for the TC tactics, how can they be copied correctly for non TC tactics?

I believe their isn't much difference between classic and TC except for the TC is zoomed out so its harder to find the correct notch compared to classic. You need to count the original settings best done in game then maybe write them down and go to your converted classic tactic and apply it their where it will look different afterwards. Don't overthink it mate - even if you get these a little wrong, the players attributes are much more important + their ppm's

Which leads to me wanting to talk about ppms again - We both want the wingers to act more like inside forwards - then its imperitive that they don't have: run with ball down left or right - if they have it its a disaster for an inside forward. Most attacking players benefits from run with ball through centre. Dribblers= Run with ball often - Quick players (SC/AMC)=Knock ball past opponent. Defence & Defensive midfielders= Try to play way out of trouble (this one is powerful stuff) Will make your players build up the play from your own penalty area and can give you long sequences leading to a goal. Try to cross the other side (David Beckham style) I love this trait because it can really split up the opponents defence in a flash - best for wide players ofcause, but good to have for anyone who can cross. Curl ball - great for a corner/freekick specialist as well for strikers that will make unpredictable shot on goal. Try to not teach them killer balls often and instead simple passes (Its said to be more efficient) - Arrive late in the opponents area - I guess best for midfielders, but could be interesting to see how wingers/IF's and wingbacks would interpret these. Very rare skill though - be happy if someone in your team have it. I think shot with power beats places shots so if using these go for shot with power - But if the players decision is decent prefer not to have any of them (I tried this with Neal Maupay & Ongenda) not having any of these 2 and they scored heaps of goals Maupay over 60 Ongenda about 45 not being fully developed. I should also say i trained them to have 20 flair and then complete forwards (Powerful stuff). Anything called longshot in game all over is a **** setting and wasting opportunities more often than not. One two's - All Midfielders - strikers - wingers/if's should have it (Leads to alot of beautiful play and great chances).

Let me know if I forgot to mention anything - anything you've seen as highly successful

cheers

 

[bwomper]

Hi guys,Im trying another tactic with frankie spirit but with 3 players in Messi Role ( for me the best role of the three,but is just a "like and dislikes" thing ) and an anchor man with one striker only. I want play more games but look nice at this moment. I will post the formation information and some league results.

 

[bwomper]

3 Messi´s Role : Arrow

Its just for give you another formation to try,here always trying to give you more formations to suit your team

I think is not better than others but not worst too.

Ok some screens shots :

The Formation :

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( you see Odegaard xD ,I just edit the name and data of a wonderkid of my team to have him on the team )
Is a 3331 .

More detaliled info about how it works:

View attachment 297980 Here the 4 more defensive players,the normal 3 CD of the Frankensteins tactics ( the central one is less ofensive ) and the anchorman. He stay back and recover the ball quickly. Play good ball to the attack players and sometimes surprise the rival defence.

View attachment 297979 This is the influence area of the two offensive DMs. They also help to recover the ball and scores a lot of goals.

View attachment 297976 I realy like this line...The 3 players with messi roles...They just do what they want,the AML/R cut inside of go to the end line or...just they do what they want! Total freedom creativity total freedom of movements,score and assist,they move the rival defence and the DM can go for the goal coming from back...have to be the most tecnical players of the team. I retrained some AMC like AML/R so I can use them in all the three positions.
Here an example of player:
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View attachment 297974 The striker,aka the hunter : Can be a mix of tank player with CF . He can score but is more for make space for the 3 Messi roles and assist them.Go for the second chances also. Dont expect a lot of goals from him,not like with the 2nd visit tactic at least. I see him like a "Benzema" in real R.Madrid.

And here more screenshots about games and league position:
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[jesaustralia]

Its just for give you another formation to try,here always trying to give you more formations to suit your team

I think is not better than others but not worst too.

Ok some screens shots :

The Formation :

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( you see Odegaard xD ,I just edit the name and data of a wonderkid of my team to have him on the team )
Is a 3331 .

More detaliled info about how it works:

View attachment 779029 Here the 4 more defensive players,the normal 3 CD of the Frankensteins tactics ( the central one is less ofensive ) and the anchorman. He stay back and recover the ball quickly. Play good ball to the attack players and sometimes surprise the rival defence.

View attachment 779035 This is the influence area of the two offensive DMs. They also help to recover the ball and scores a lot of goals.

View attachment 779043 I realy like this line...The 3 players with messi roles...They just do what they want,the AML/R cut inside of go to the end line or...just they do what they want! Total freedom creativity total freedom of movements,score and assist,they move the rival defence and the DM can go for the goal coming from back...have to be the most tecnical players of the team. I retrained some AMC like AML/R so I can use them in all the three positions.
Here an example of player:
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View attachment 779058 The striker,aka the hunter : Can be a mix of tank player with CF . He can score but is more for make space for the 3 Messi roles and assist them.Go for the second chances also. Dont expect a lot of goals from him,not like with the 2nd visit tactic at least. I see him like a "Benzema" in real R.Madrid.

And here more screenshots about games and league position:
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Very nice illustration!!!! - made me wanna import the tactic and use it instantly, will let you know what I think. Did you use photoshop or another program for your images?

Cheers

ps you spanish people should nickname Odegaard to Odin or Odin de Norway hehe

 

[bwomper]

Very nice illustration!!!! - made me wanna import the tactic and use it instantly, will let you know what I think. Did you use photoshop or another program for your images?

Cheers

ps you spanish people should nickname Odegaard to Odin or Odin de Norway hehe

just the "cut" tool from win7 and then just use paint for edited lol

Odin de Noruega ! haha.

Comeback to the tactic,its like the others,better the players better the tactic,but I like the way the team plays with that tactic,and I know is not the best tactic of fm but make that tactics open the options for us to choose the better tactic for our team

 

[champion7891]

great idea!

I wanted to try something similar with my 3313, by moving the STCL/STCR or AMCL, AMCR

i think yours is better, with proper DMs I think it will suit Barca very well

 

[jesaustralia]

just the "cut" tool from win7 and then just use paint for edited lol

Odin de Noruega ! haha.

Comeback to the tactic,its like the others,better the players better the tactic,but I like the way the team plays with that tactic,and I know is not the best tactic of fm but make that tactics open the options for us to choose the better tactic for our team

Don't be modest mate - I knew this one would be special too so it became my newest to my crazy Barca team.

I only played 1 match with it still, but that match showed me I will play with it alot a match vs Eibar poor team I watched it on comprehensive highlights. Play is very beautiful - possession - triangle play - wingers dribbling to the byline and into the box as well scoring goals they are very dangerous, I'm happy you kept original settings of the lone striker because these settings can blossom when the lone strikers have a few ppms. Tactic got great balance probably more balanced than frankenstein and I'm 100% certain that it contains the ability to score 10+ against anyone. Defensive statistics will become fantastic I don't think it will conceede alot. I feel its a near perfect tactic just from watching 1 match with a very poor team cohesion. I won 5-0 - 40 shots - 22 on goal - 5 woodworks. Eibar had 1 shot not dangerous. I could have won 20-0

I'm gonna edit most players ppm's to what I feel they should have - then we will see what happens then

I highly recommend this tactic - its near perfect - its hollywood football or Samba football - I'm undecided if I will try and edit anything in it yet because its perfect now!!!

Mate well done - AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!

How about Odin de Madrid - nice sound to it

Cheers

 

[bwomper]

Thanks for your kind words! Well,im now in this period of the season when you see the team doesnt play like the first period of the season . I just win Cordoba 1-2 away ( well...I win Valencia 6-0 away after lol ) but the media of goals in league go from 5,1 to 4,6 per game. And I suffer a looooooot of injuries ( 3 injuries in one game is insane for me ) and my team maximum injuries are 8!! Dont know if is a bug or what but arrrrgg! XD

Odin de Madrid ! yeah!

Feel free to improve the tactic as you want. Messi role in this 3 positions is funny to see sometimes

 

[champion7891]

bwomper, AMC/AMR/AML should be complete forwards?

 

[bwomper]

bwomper, AMC/AMR/AML should be complete forwards?

Not realy, better if they are creative AMC ( like the player profile I showed in the post of this tactic ) But if your CF is good in creativity,dribling,pace,etc you can try with them

 

[champion7891]

Not realy, better if they are creative AMC ( like the player profile I showed in the post of this tactic ) But if your CF is good in creativity,dribling,pace,etc you can try with them

thanks...what I basically meant was that they shoudnt be wingers? more like trequatistas?

 

[bwomper]

thanks...what I basically meant was that they shoudnt be wingers? more like trequatistas?

Yeah,I retrained some pure AMC to be AML/AMR. The tactic is like you play with 3 AMC but with 2 of them open to the flanks.
Dont know how much possesion did you see in the game guys,but I see in one game was 75%-25% and I cant remember see something like that before.

 

[champion7891]

Hi Jes!

I am currently playing with bwomper's 3331 and was wondering if there is any template for a "Pirlo" role as I think the DMC can be boss if he plays like pirlo?

 

[jesaustralia]

Hi Jes!

I am currently playing with bwomper's 3331 and was wondering if there is any template for a "Pirlo" role as I think the DMC can be boss if he plays like pirlo?

I don't know if their is - however my take on that would be

Formation positioning DMC - run from deep= rare or sometimes
all settings set to rare except through balls= often - very direct passing 15-18 - ppms try long passes & cross to the other side - creative freedom=0 - mentality=15-20 - closedown=10 - Try Holdupball if play becomes to slow take it off -

The idea is to make direct long pinpoint passes to the strikers or wingers which creates a clear cut opportunity and lead to a goal if your striker is quick and composed enough - technical attributes is a bonus for those strikers. I have seen this work!!

Cheers