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Crystal Palace Update 4

Before I continue I will clarify my choices not to go for the underdog tactics created by Mr.Langvatn - My team cohesion was very very low due to 25+ new signings and it wouldn't matter which tactic I would use - It would be a fail nomatter what!! - So I decided to buy players that had a chance to develop into world beaters in the future. Also I dislike to play with fullbacks

I feel my team would perform with higher team blend using Frankenstein and it certainly did at the end of season 2. I won the Capital one cup and qualified for Europa League - the league table didn't matter so much but 8th again - I sold many players there among Leroy Fer and cleared all my debt and I reshaped the squad a little again and now I'm truely happy with the squad and team gel is good understanding at the beginning of 3rd season so I'm looking forward to it. Also got my staff upgraded a bit and I can now with ease buy players for the youth team as well not promoting them to the reserves to fast. Better coaches for the 1st team as well - so I'm happy with that

New Faces - Knockaert - Crisetig - Lukaku - Strandberg - Shelvey and Ruffier

I sold several players - Lots of no names + Bony & Leroy Fer

I exspect to challenge for the first four places and maybe even challenge for the title this season the 3rd season.

I'm training a little differently going less for flair and more for technique - quickness and strenght for my strikers. Again I'm convinced that jumping sucks for strikers or what you call tank centre forwards - tell you what here's the attributes that I really appreciates.

Teamwork - All players working as a unit & playing as a unit defensively & offensively

Technique - Performing difficult tasks with the ball shots dribbling etc from DM's - SC's

Workrate - How much the player will put in a physical effort during the match all players benefits from this but most important for the more defensively positioned players starting up top being the CAM.

Offball - Ability to create space - How well he positions himself when his team is in possession SC's & Wingers especially



Flair - Tricks - Hard to defend against because of the unexspected element of surprise - Are questioning this attribute but I would give it to the strikers & the wingers and sometimes the CAM.


Determination - How much a player tries to succeed in his actions - For all players obviously


Anticipation - The ability to predict movements of team mates - the ball - and opposition players can react much faster to events - All players will benefit from this especially if playing possession football - who wouldn't have 11 clairvoyants in the team (FC Barcelona) - Defenders and Strikers benefit immensely from this attribute and its probably one of the most important attributes to have - a good indicator in a young talent if he has this.


Aggression- benefits from - Tackling - anticipation - decisions - concentration (Defenders & Defensive midfielders) - Will commit less foults


First touch - control the ball - and set it up for his next decision - good for all players - essential for all offensive powers.


Passing - How accurate a pass can be performed (Important over longer passing distances) - Not so Important for short passing tactics


Agility - How well a player can shift direction in a flash - hugely beneficial for wingers and strikers that are usually quick - can change the game events with a quick turn cutting inside and hammer the ball in to the top corner


Acceleration - How well the player can reach top speed in no time - Important to have this high for Defenders wingers and strikers

Stamina - The higher stamina the better the player will perform - a low stamina player who have the most amazing attributes will tire quicker and not be able to perform his best - this is important for all for obvious reasons

Strenght - Competing for the ball - Wrestling for the ball call it what you like this is an important attribute for all players - essential for all 13+ for strikers but more is better - very very high for players with defensive tasks 17+ (Not Daniel Agger)

Here's Some Images:

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The League Table season 2

Youngster development:
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I don't know if Godden is a regent or just a young talent - nomatter what I will play him in the 1st team for atleast 15 games this season - The 3 strikers all different from each other - Maupay I go for 20 strenght then switch to Poacher schedule - Ongenda I target 15 strenght then switch to poacher schedule - Fierro I target 15 strenght then switch to poacher schedule - Praet I target his technical attributes aqlong with samina and strenght through the Box to Box schedule.

This is all for now - I won the Euro league qualifier 10-3 against Mura 05 and have drawn Arsenal Kyiv from the Ukraine in the Euro league play off's - yes I wanna win this - All of it!!!!!!!!

I hope you enjoy this journey its a little different than usual and it keeps me motivated playing the game like this
When my team in season 2 had 8 matches left they got strong understanding in team blend -
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I'm currently good team blend with my new players at the start of the 3rd season so will have strong team blend soon and then extremely strong understanding - This is the reason why I expect a great season.

That's it guys - hope you are good out there

Cheers


 
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Crystal Palace Update 5

Just a quick update 7 games played and a few Euro league matches as well - we are in October and we just hit team blend - strong understanding and beating Spurs in the process - yayyyy!!
Here's the images for you to see

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Cheers Guys
 
2 lost in 2 away games? Can you improve that Jes?

That's not a worry - I know Frankenstein 2nd visit version - Its a matter of a better team cohesion then their will be no stopping my team home & Away - and I think I will be their soon.

Maupay is growing into a beast almost 20 strenght - and he is only 18 scored 20 goals in 20 matches.

League table - Strong understanding team cohesion

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This is just an indicator of what is to come + Daniel Sturridge in the January transfer window - I'm not very excited about Wellington Nem - he is for me far from as good as people say. I will be constantly trying to upgrade my team untill I feel that my team is a worldclass team - at the moment the wingers could need an upgrade M.Reus would be amazing :) and I wish I had Dede instead of Agger and maybe caulker and shawcross :) - then ofcause I am always looking for the opportunity to get players like Pogba or Koke for my midfield, but it will come probably in the shape of a superstar regent :)

I like Ruffier, but he makes some silly mistakes sometimes - I feel he is in the category just below Courtois which is ultimately my dream Goalkeeper.

Cheers

PS. Sturrridge & Walcott in January for 10m pounds cash then 48 month installments - Wellington Nem sale 27m pounds and a backup RW for a total of 35m pounds
cash!!

(EDIT) - Courtois - Ross Barkley - Transfer listed :wub: - Dream Goal keeper and another great English player - then I can add Victor Fischer is interested coming to my club which would be another upgrade - I'm gonna sell Rodwell and then I will buy Joe Allen from Liverpool. I'm gonna post pone the team gel to get these players - getting these will mean I just need 2 class defenders to have a fantastic team. Only someone like Koke - Pogba - Wanyama can make me excited now.
 
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Crystal Palace - Season 3 (January Transfer Window) - Important Update

I can't believe it several of my favourite players wanted to come and play for Crystal Palace - So I have sacrificed team cohesion for several great players - Better Defensive midfielders and better wingers is the only thing that can upgrade this team to fantastic. Also the way my players are developing is perfect Maupay 18 years old 19 in strenght wow!!!!

Squad - Transfers & League table

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Dede - Courtois - Ross Barkley great additions to the squad and at the same time trying to keep the squad a bit english - All this in 2 and a half season without any sort of cheat with first season team Crystal Palace that had media prediction 18 in the beginning - its at the moment stalling at 8th position - In my opinion we are closer to media prediction position 1.

I can add that I got Philidelphia as a feeder club - Now the team cohesion will go down to blend well together or something like that so that will be worked on hard. No matches have yet been played with these new players, but I can tell you playing Man.City away about a month ago I beat them 5-1 away.

Anyway I just wanted to share this and hope you are good out their - have a good weekend and Enjoy!!
 
Crystal Palace - Season 3 Conclusion - Preseason 4

Ok honestly guys I would have stopped writing about this long ago - since the thread still gets visitors though I will do it a little more.

Season 3 was a season with an underlying hint of success - with a mixed team blend between well and good. I always thought I had the players and then the beautiful January transfer window made my team come to life for real - with the transfers that I made. I'm talking about Dede - Courtois - Barkley - Walcott and ofcause Sturridge.

Season 3 Achievement - Exceeding the goal

League table
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Champions in the hardest league in the world with Crystal Palace - Amazing!!!!! - Even more Amazing that it was done with match focus=Teamwork and a team that was not very comfortable with each other.

Euro League
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Obviously this is poor if the team blend was maxed out - but it wasn't so this was exellent all the way a semi final against Arsenal being Crystal Palace a team in progression towards something bigger than them selves :)

NEXT SEASON 4....
In the coming season I want nothing more than the title and a Quarter Final in the Champions League - Further I want more success in the Capital one cup & the Fa cup. My team blend is still very low - Blending well together and I have sold Praet and try to sell Obiang - I made room for new talents in the team. I like developing them myself and I expect a much better team for the future. I setup a little cheat as well - Feeder Clubs so I can develop players by loaning them out to teams with good backgrounds developing youngsters - + its fun to follow other clubs that plays with my talents haha!!!

Here's some talents I will give playing time myself
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The next Platini...

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This one being english I really like - as I've said earlier I enjoy keeping it as english as possible - Got 11 matches in season 3 and will for sure get a whole lot more in the coming season.

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This one for me is a next Pogba and thank god - English as well - I can't wait to give him playing time - these players will develop extremely fast once giving them the opportunity to play. This is also for me a very exciting element of football manager.

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Hodzic - He's gonna surpass Dede I think - got a few matches as a 16 year old in season 3 - unfortunately my defence is very much a done deal - so I either use rarely in cup matches or if injuries occur or I loan him out to my feeder clubs who will possibly use him full time. Star of the future?...I think so :)

Alot of talent in the youth team - Not alot of room in the 1st team however - Feeder clubs will be my friend as soon a young talent turns something like 17.

These are my feeder clubs that I cheated to get - Ajax - Brondby - FC Basel - Watford - Zaragoza - Hacken - Leipzig - Viking - Club Brugge - Dinamo Zagreb - Cesena & Several clubs outside of Europe - happening in Mexico - Brazil - South Africa - Colombia - Ivory Coast - Chile & United States.

I know its alot and maybe over the top - but most of those are small clubs and I most certainly won't loan out players to the clubs out of europe. It was just some added fun!! ;)

I don't know how many of you are following this or just the thread for the tactics - Either way I thought it would be fun to share this tiny little club and show how fast you actually can get them to the top of it all in modern day football in fm13 ohhhhh yeahh rock'n roll - I'm getting a bit to much right now haha!

Cheers guys & I hope you all are good out their
 
Crystal Palace - Extremely Strong Understanding 24th of march

Alright just a quick update - as mentioned the team gel gone up to a superior level which means I can deal with most teams out there!!...

Premier League has been bad so far with 8 matches left and not comfortable 1st actually I'm 3rd and sometimes 4th - I think I underestimated the importance of the midfield and due to this I started experimenting with the tactic with a mixture of results - Currently the wingers has become wide midfielders which is quite enjoyable - I was seeded 3 in the champions league draw and got in a group with Bayern & Juventus - Automatically Jeeeezzzz!!!!!

Premier League
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CH League
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Awesome Mexican talent that I get next season - decided it was best to get him for the new season
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Godden Talent that has developed into an English International 3 caps
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110k pounds and now he's this good - wonderful!!!

Crisetig - how good he can become
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Anyway I have won the Capital one
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I have a semi final in the FA CUP - & reached my goal for the ch league - the quarter final where I will play Chelsea. Right now the sole focus must be to win the premier league as this means alot to a team like Crystal Palace :)

Anyway will report back with the season 4 conclusion...

Cheers
 
Crystal Palace - Season 4 Conclusion

It was a season with mixed results and attempts to improve the defensive side of Frankenstein - I think I did that!!!
At the end of this post I will release another tweak of Frankenstein that should improve Frankenstein defensively.

Premier League was a tough nut to crack and ended up in a mess, but I accept the challenge

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As you can see a very close race between 1-2 & 3

The Champions league - being seeded 3 was definitely not going to be nice for my Crystal Palace side so a group draw against Juventus - Bayern and a noname team would prove challenging...

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I was sweating when going down 4-1 in the first leg against Chelsea, but we managed in the end and ofcause destroying Barcelona on the way as well does make me happy - A fantastic achievement playing in the champions league for the first time.

The Man UTD - Triage
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Liga cup & Fa cup victories against the champions of England - Cool

Here's the squad as the season ended
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This will change radically in season 5 - Ongenda & Fierro I loan out to Ajax because I want to try something different. I'm gonna play with tanks in the attack - Benteke - Lukaku - Maupay - & Partida (Superstar regent) all extremely strong and will lead things offensively - I got Gylfi Sigurosson a CAM freekick & corner kick specialist like no other.

NEW WINGS!!!!!...
Jese' - Muniain - Shaarawy - Lamela

DM's...
Crisetig - Godden - Bryan Cristante - Wanyama - Andre Gomes - backed up by 2 regents

CD's...
Dede - John Stones - Laporte - Strandberg - Kyriakos Papadopoulos

CAM's...
Sigurosson - R.Barkley - Backed up by the next Platini (Gehin)

I got alot of extremely good offers by offering players in the month of June - Big teams seems to be excited at that time in particular. So lots of new faces, but most of all faces I really wanted - I will be excited to see all 10 of them.

As promised I have tweaked Frankenstein to a better defensive stand - I don't know yet if it hurts the offence - What I can tell you is the 3 defenders have about the same settings as in Galego's Marcelo 3142 - I added for the CDr/l move into channels to spread the defenders out a little more and I feel it does make a difference. I also changed mentality to all out attack from DM's-SC's - so no more scared CAM and he plays better - it doesn't affect him coming back to interact in the play its a misunderstood conception. Try it out for yourself.

I will end this Journey now and not report back any further. It seems to me that fm13 is really dead and I'm basically just reporting this to myself - so no point in doing so - If I get 5 likes in this post I will continue for another season if not you've made your case :)

Frankenstein Defence-Mentality Tweak by Jesaustralia

Cheers
 
Crystal Palace - Season 4 Conclusion

It was a season with mixed results and attempts to improve the defensive side of Frankenstein - I think I did that!!!
At the end of this post I will release another tweak of Frankenstein that should improve Frankenstein defensively.

Premier League was a tough nut to crack and ended up in a mess, but I accept the challenge

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As you can see a very close race between 1-2 & 3

The Champions league - being seeded 3 was definitely not going to be nice for my Crystal Palace side so a group draw against Juventus - Bayern and a noname team would prove challenging...

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I was sweating when going down 4-1 in the first leg against Chelsea, but we managed in the end and ofcause destroying Barcelona on the way as well does make me happy - A fantastic achievement playing in the champions league for the first time.

The Man UTD - Triage
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Liga cup & Fa cup victories against the champions of England - Cool

Here's the squad as the season ended
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This will change radically in season 5 - Ongenda & Fierro I loan out to Ajax because I want to try something different. I'm gonna play with tanks in the attack - Benteke - Lukaku - Maupay - & Partida (Superstar regent) all extremely strong and will lead things offensively - I got Gylfi Sigurosson a CAM freekick & corner kick specialist like no other.

NEW WINGS!!!!!...
Jese' - Muniain - Shaarawy - Lamela

DM's...
Crisetig - Godden - Bryan Cristante - Wanyama - Andre Gomes - backed up by 2 regents

CD's...
Dede - John Stones - Laporte - Strandberg - Kyriakos Papadopoulos

CAM's...
Sigurosson - R.Barkley - Backed up by the next Platini (Gehin)

I got alot of extremely good offers by offering players in the month of June - Big teams seems to be excited at that time in particular. So lots of new faces, but most of all faces I really wanted - I will be excited to see all 10 of them.

As promised I have tweaked Frankenstein to a better defensive stand - I don't know yet if it hurts the offence - What I can tell you is the 3 defenders have about the same settings as in Galego's Marcelo 3142 - I added for the CDr/l move into channels to spread the defenders out a little more and I feel it does make a difference. I also changed mentality to all out attack from DM's-SC's - so no more scared CAM and he plays better - it doesn't affect him coming back to interact in the play its a misunderstood conception. Try it out for yourself.

I will end this Journey now and not report back any further. It seems to me that fm13 is really dead and I'm basically just reporting this to myself - so no point in doing so - If I get 5 likes in this post I will continue for another season if not you've made your case :)

Frankenstein Defence-Mentality Tweak by Jesaustralia

Cheers

haha i dont know if its dead or not, maybe all the people are on a holiday

I am trying Galego's tweak to the 4141 and its fun. All of the front 5 score goals, and if your MR/Ml has striker like stats he scores like an inside forward (about a third of the season through, my highest goal scorer is ML).
 
I'm really looking forward to see your story in Crystal Palace. Very agree that you should use tank striker, it seem work better than fast striker in fm13. And a very funny thing happen to me today while playing fm13.
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Cheers
 
hay jesaustralia you could make please tactics 4-1-2-2-1?
 
hay jesaustralia you could make please tactics 4-1-2-2-1?

I recommend this: http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/foot...-lies-down-cries-13-3-3-a-11.html#post1842603

its a 4141, but the ML and MR score goals.
its depends though on what you want you the bolded in 41221 to do, old fashioned wingers (bale) or inside forwards (ronaldo, Robben).

If you want inside forwards you have a couple of options which I would love if you could try:

1) train your AML/AMR players to the ML/MR positions - but IMO you need good crossing still (14+) and right foot MR and left foot ML

OR

2) move the MR/ML to AMR/AML and copy these settings: http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/atta...ting-how-legends-play-emmerich-role-instr.png.

OR

3) do a variation of 2) such that its mixes the settings of the original MR/ML and the inside forward settings in the link I gave. To explain, move the MR and ML to AMR/AML, then change the mentality, creative freedom, passing style, run from deep, run with ball, and long shots to these settings http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/atta...ting-how-legends-play-emmerich-role-instr.png but keep the rest unchanged (i.e. through ball, crossing, wide play, cross from, cross aim same as the original MR/ML settings)
 
I recommend this: http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/foot...-lies-down-cries-13-3-3-a-11.html#post1842603

its a 4141, but the ML and MR score goals.
its depends though on what you want you the bolded in 41221 to do, old fashioned wingers (bale) or inside forwards (ronaldo, Robben).

If you want inside forwards you have a couple of options which I would love if you could try:

1) train your AML/AMR players to the ML/MR positions - but IMO you need good crossing still (14+) and right foot MR and left foot ML

OR

2) move the MR/ML to AMR/AML and copy these settings: http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/atta...ting-how-legends-play-emmerich-role-instr.png.

OR

3) do a variation of 2) such that its mixes the settings of the original MR/ML and the inside forward settings in the link I gave. To explain, move the MR and ML to AMR/AML, then change the mentality, creative freedom, passing style, run from deep, run with ball, and long shots to these settings http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/atta...ting-how-legends-play-emmerich-role-instr.png but keep the rest unchanged (i.e. through ball, crossing, wide play, cross from, cross aim same as the original MR/ML settings)

Do you have any results for the fanta Champ? - I'm thinking to adapt this tactic to one of my feeder clubs - tweak 6!!
 
Do you have any results for the fanta Champ? - I'm thinking to adapt this tactic to one of my feeder clubs - tweak 6!!

well I reloaded an old simmed save and took control of Real in 2022, bought in around 17 new players I think, so you can tell that cohesion is a big issue.

25-23-1-1 93 scored 14 conceded in league, 149 goals all competitions in 41 matches, those league draws and loss (to barca away) the only loss.

I think this is a solid 4 to 4.3 goals a season tactic with top team and cohesion, will honestly find out next season but I am thinking of trying one of the tweaks mentioned in the post above

my top player btw and I got him for peanuts :P :

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this is why I am so excited by this tactic, WMs with striker stats and good crossing can be absolutely devastating

on the other hand, disappointed by the striker

PS. there is a problem in the tactic, the ML and MCL have a longer passing than the MCR and MR. Galego suggested the MCs should have the shorter passing, so change the MCLs passing to that of MCR and MR to MLs
 
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well I reloaded an old simmed save and took control of Real in 2022, bought in around 17 new players I think, so you can tell that cohesion is a big issue.

25-23-1-1 93 scored 14 conceded in league, 149 goals all competitions in 41 matches, those league draws and loss (to barca away) the only loss.

I think this is a solid 4 to 4.3 goals a season tactic with top team and cohesion, will honestly find out next season but I am thinking of trying one of the tweaks mentioned in the post above

my top player btw and I got him for peanuts :P :

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this is why I am so excited by this tactic, WMs with striker stats and good crossing can be absolutely devastating

on the other hand, disappointed by the striker

PS. there is a problem in the tactic, the ML and MCL have a longer passing than the MCR and MR. Galego suggested the MCs should have the shorter passing, so change the MCLs passing to that of MCR and MR to MLs

That regent look awefully simular to C7 - Amazing!!! - What does the striker do wrong for you? Maybe take of run from deep so he interact more in play or simply move him to the amc position and experiement with run from deep rare - normal - often. Cheers
 
Sorry - just saw the settings in fanta - already with a back arrow - well CF=0 is my next suggestion for the striker
 
hay jesaustralia you could make please tactics 4-1-2-2-1?

Sorry mate - trying to focus on my current Crystal palace save - If you are a little more concrete of what you want I might do an attempt, but I need to know how the formation you want to use look like - I'm a visual person alot and formations can look different from each other when you say it in numbers - 4 dl dr dc dc - dm - ml mr or mc mc - cam cam or aml amr - sc? Be more precise

cheers
 
That regent look awefully simular to C7 - Amazing!!! - What does the striker do wrong for you? Maybe take of run from deep so he interact more in play or simply move him to the amc position and experiement with run from deep rare - normal - often. Cheers

well he started off strong like a goal in first 5 6 games but then he has stopped scoring a lot, average 0.5 goals a game but he is mostly there for creating space I think...also seems to favor fast poacher types than creative tank types

as for the regen, well my suggestion in to go on holiday for period of ten years like till 2022, 2032, 2042 and so on.

you get these amazingly developed players, I mean only an AI can give an ML a striker like stats. its impossible to do it yourself, I have a similar MR too but he isn't as developed yet so he is rotation but he is still 21, had i got him at 18 or so I would never have been able to get him to high creativity and finsihing
 
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Sorry mate - trying to focus on my current Crystal palace save - If you are a little more concrete of what you want I might do an attempt, but I need to know how the formation you want to use look like - I'm a visual person alot and formations can look different from each other when you say it in numbers - 4 dl dr dc dc - dm - ml mr or mc mc - cam cam or aml amr - sc? Be more precise

cheers

I think he means a Barca type 433...

Fb Cb Cb Fb
----DM----
---MC-Mc--
AMR-----AML
-----ST-----

Ill be honest, I have been trying to create this formation by tweaking loads of tactic (wow -> move DMCL to MC and MR to AMC), 4141 MrL combined with wow AML settings, frankenstein combined with IF and 442 TT FB settings etc) but it has never worked

I am hoping that this when I try to tweak Fanta it can work out
 
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