Frankenstein Tactic 3-2-3-2

  • Thread starter Thread starter bwomper
  • Start date Start date
  • Replies Replies 1K
  • Views Views 283K
jesaustralia said:
I'm testing a tweak using CA200 template incredible tendencies beat Arsenal 5-0 Aston Villa 5-0 Manchester United 6-0 Swansea 8-0 and several other teams in that region of results - it did have a few hickups, but I think that won't happen when your team is great and developed. I have to test this with my RMA team

First game with this

View attachment 737145

I will keep testing, but if you wanna try it you can Download it here - Remember only great teams will enjoy this.

Remember to still refer to the author of this tactic and not me - this is just a tweak

Cheers
Click to expand...
what did you tweak here? ( I see the corner/free kicks chages )
 
bwomper said:
I will try your tweak mate,thanks!!
Click to expand...

Well super thank you mate - I'm about to post the next lot of matches and I'm still dizzy after this lot you'll know why in a sec

2nd match vs Elche away shouldn't be hard

View attachment 315641

FC Porto ch league away hardest team in the group

View attachment 315640

I enjoyed that!

Ok Home match vs no2 in la liga Sevilla I'll show you a little progress

View attachment 315639

Honestly it got much worse than that

View attachment 315638

And humiliation in the cards

View attachment 315637

Full-Time Result

View attachment 315636

Yes it is my record win but not only that its against a top team and all this happened because I was unhappy with the way my team continued to conceede and then I noticed that this tactic is really narrow in width and I thought to myself lets try and change that 5 notches so I did along with the corner kick - freekick and throwin strategy - in the template I lost in 19 games something like 3 matches, but I thought to myself lets try this with really good players.

I will say Im semi going away from the strenght/workrate concept - I need to believe in what I see which is Flair creativity acceleration agility pace ;) finishing technique offball - the 5 first players should have strenght and workrate but also the technical stuff so box to box.

I hope you see some sort of success with this I really do.

Cheers
 
jesaustralia said:
Well super thank you mate - I'm about to post the next lot of matches and I'm still dizzy after this lot you'll know why in a sec

2nd match vs Elche away shouldn't be hard

View attachment 737207

FC Porto ch league away hardest team in the group

View attachment 737208

I enjoyed that!

Ok Home match vs no2 in la liga Sevilla I'll show you a little progress

View attachment 737211

Honestly it got much worse than that

View attachment 737213

And humiliation in the cards

View attachment 737214

Full-Time Result

View attachment 737217

Yes it is my record win but not only that its against a top team and all this happened because I was unhappy with the way my team continued to conceede and then I noticed that this tactic is really narrow in width and I thought to myself lets try and change that 5 notches so I did along with the corner kick - freekick and throwin strategy - in the template I lost in 19 games something like 3 matches, but I thought to myself lets try this with really good players.

I will say Im semi going away from the strenght/workrate concept - I need to believe in what I see which is Flair creativity acceleration agility pace ;) finishing technique offball - the 5 first players should have strenght and workrate but also the technical stuff so box to box.

I hope you see some sort of success with this I really do.

Cheers
Click to expand...
that game vs Sevilla was insane!!

I will take a look later.
 
Listen my team is very strong and on top of that Chelsea transferlisted Eden Hazard I'm signing him for 45.5m pounds in the January window. The team gel is strong understanding so still a few level to go with that, but the game keeps shocking me -
12-0 is no more the biggest win, but it was against a poor opposition Almeria 14-0 I can post it if you'd like but it looks to crazy.

Just like this Ch League group match against FC Porto - That was insane too I think

View attachment 315592

2nd season - I believe FC Porto is suppose to be a very good team aren't they? - Anyway a performance unreal and to be honest it makes me nervous because this is a fail if you don't get the same experience.

I'll just say this again -

Training all season - Team cohesion - Very high - 50% - Attacking Movement

Quickness - creative - High Flair - good offball movement - good finishing - composed - anticipate - good corner kick taker - good freekick taker - good penalty taker - good thowin taker - high technique

Train your strikers and inside forwards on Trequartista schedule to get high flair - technique and agility when they have an acceptable level 16+ switch to Poacher and make them quick 16+ after that complete forward.

This what I'm seeing is a hidden gem and I probably can't see myself playing with anything else, but I want others to have this success. If this success is what it provide I have to test it on 4 templates to see what it does, I only tested it for 19 games on CA200 and as I said I saw it destroy many teams but it also had hickups which was dissapointing - I think it will play really well against 1 striker formations so spain la liga will appreciate that I believe. Its a small change but a significant one it seems.

I am starting to doubt the templates because they don't show how well a tactic like this one can do because of the casual defeats it gets. Due to high goals being scored against very strong opponents it made me interested to test how it would go with my RMA team - so let me know how you go if you test this it would be interesting to hear about it.

Cheers guys
 
Happy new year guys - I wish you the best 2015

Cheers

Sorry guys simply to much to drink i'm removing this video :)
 
Last edited:
I'm still playing with my tweak - I haven't had alot of matches above 10, but its still all good its performing well even with youngsters 17 and 18 big talents the likes of Ongenda and Maupay I mean. C.Ronaldo frustrates me - he either play amazing or bad - he's hopeless at penalties i sometimes see him miss more than one penalty a game which is ****, so now James Rodriguez takes the penalties and he puts the ball up under the roof which i love. Composure is extremely important for a penalty taker i might think its more important than penalty skill itsself.

This tactic+tweak should not be tested with a season 1 team chances are that you will fail however setting it all up for the future buying talents training them developing them with lots of flair. Thinking you can make this happen easy if you choose manchester city is wrong.

Eden Hazard has entered my team but he's secondary cause James Rodriguez has developed alot and do a fantastic job, and ofcause Bale is an amazing player to be honest i think best player in my team. C.Ronaldo is good but a poor team player i have alot of players that can take over, but having tried Ronaldo made me rethink how i train strikers becuase flair and technique is very good to have - strenght is good to but highly overrated by some people.

I shortly tried F.LLorrente and what i saw was dissapointing the 3d game engine is certainly not liking the tall heading monsters to much, their is no point in having them - what can be golden though is pace agility acceleration technique and strenght

Anyway just reporting back to say things has settled down a bit but its still just a matter of time before we score 10+again

cheers
 
I use your tweak but only the slider tweak ( I like my strikers go for the goal on corners and they do it well! ) and just this "simple" tweak make this tactic even more funny and smasher so thanks mate for that. The original is inspired by your tips and Mr.L tactics so thanks again. Let me know if some day you break my own record of 197 goals! haha
 
bwomper said:
I use your tweak but only the slider tweak ( I like my strikers go for the goal on corners and they do it well! ) and just this "simple" tweak make this tactic even more funny and smasher so thanks mate for that. The original is inspired by your tips and Mr.L tactics so thanks again. Let me know if some day you break my own record of 197 goals! haha
Click to expand...

Well mate if you see your strikers get 20+ goals from corners I say go for it! - its for me not a decider who scores - The 3 central defenders from the back for me Dede - David Luiz - Varane is just very good for this setup having 3 strong and tall defenders **** raising in the opponents penalty box. Same goes for freekick and the long trow-ins.

The width slider change was based on the fact you use 3 defenders in this tactic and I kept conceeding 1 goal per match and it annoyed me, so I thought to myself if I could spread out the defence a little it might improve, ofcause it would also spread out the opponents central defence which would be yummy for the 5 up front and it turns out to be one **** off an overload in the attack and I honestly think its one of the best tactics attacking wise if not the best, I have a feeling I'm gonna score more than 197 goals this season in la liga look below haha :)

View attachment 315050

I think your original final version is brilliant, and I think this tweaked version makes it a little bit better well it does for me. I think their is more shots being made than the final version provided I don't remember to be honest.

I do have amazing players and amazing talent so ofcause I will overperform each match. I actually love how Bale plays and he surprises me alot and Eden Hazard for me is a substitute though he is still amazing ofcause - James Rodriguez are unreal as well, but Ronaldo makes me cry sometimes because of obvious players are better positioned than him where it could lead to a goal and instead the ball end somewhere in Norway :)

About the width slider - I have not tested it further I mean with even more width like 15 so just maybe their is still tweak potential - I don't know yet. Imagine your formation and then where the players are positioned compared to the width you've set - then ask yourself will this make a to big gap in the centre defence and the centre midfield - also how much will opponent defence spread out to make room for your front players (any tactic) - I think 20 is to much in width - it would surprise me if that would ever be a good setting in 99% of tactics :)

I do think with more width that the inside forwards will almost change to wingers in the way they play, but my concern is how they act with assisting passes - successful crosses and ofcause dangerous shot attempts - do they score goals! :)

The amc falling back is just lovely what you have done with him the dmc's connecting really well with the amc I enjoy that alot it gives many passing options in attack and alot for the opposition to be worried about it becomes 3 defenders - 1 centre midfield and 2 attacking midfielders 2 creative wingers and 2 strikers so something like a 316 when attacking :)

Mate you created this you got ideas from other people - that's fine that's how we evolve inspiration combined with our own ideas :) - Frankenstein is for me fm13's Champion and very hard to beat - make a better tactic than this because you already made it. :)

The templates doesn't show how good this tactic is - it shows it has potential, but it doesn't show how unique the play is and how you can rip up defences if you have a very strong team

Anyway I will post when I see some crazy stuff

Cheers Pal!
 
jesaustralia said:
Well mate if you see your strikers get 20+ goals from corners I say go for it! - its for me not a decider who scores - The 3 central defenders from the back for me Dede - David Luiz - Varane is just very good for this setup having 3 strong and tall defenders **** raising in the opponents penalty box. Same goes for freekick and the long trow-ins.
Click to expand...
any striker or all the strikers? lol In my actual season 20 games played the two starter strikers score 26 and 23 goals and I think maybe 12-15 of the global 49 from corners . For sure the 3 defenders scores more but I like when a striker is above 40 goals per season lol

I think the galacticos real madrid you will make will beat the score record! Saludos amigo!
 
bwomper said:
any striker or all the strikers? lol In my actual season 20 games played the two starter strikers score 26 and 23 goals and I think maybe 12-15 of the global 49 from corners . For sure the 3 defenders scores more but I like when a striker is above 40 goals per season lol

I think the galacticos real madrid you will make will beat the score record! Saludos amigo!
Click to expand...

1 striker typically your attack nearpost or near post flick on guy - once in a while it ends up around the killer and the challenge goal keeper guy challenge the goal keeper and scores :) and even attack far post guy gets a few, but i'm still undecided about this position because i can see that stand at far post would maybe be good as well, but thats just my current setup i dont see it as important unless you dont score because then something is wrong. If your strikers are tall and strong they will do well doing this just like the defenders, for me Ronaldo is not good enough at that, my strikers will get more than 40 anyway :)

But my team has only strong understanding so they are not even topping their potential yet + several players are still developing so its pretty crazy. Whatever I will end up with after 38 matches it can be beaten easily - why you say? well my team is not developed maxed out in potential yet and team gel is not high yet and C.Ronaldo still play for my team - I bet a better teamwork striker partnership will score more goals :) - I wish I had Neymar :) - I would train is teamwork hard just kiddin' :)

For my team future will be exciting regent wise as well, but I'm really enjoying playing with real life players currently + I play with alot less divisions so my RMA save is much faster so I generate seasons faster than in my Barca save where a season took over 1 week real life.

What I'm hoping for is that you see strong performances like me and maybe get some high scoring seasons and then you should probably also get strikers scoring above 50. In some or even most games you should see shots between 30-45 even away from home which is insane.

Anyway let me know how you go mate

Cheers

ps. you made this tactic - your idea and your idea only i just made a very small adjustment which is as it is said small :)
 
Some games results with the slider tweak : 7-0 ; 9-0 ; 6-2 ; 6-1 ; 6-0 ; 0-6 ; 1-7 the last 3 in copa del rey-liga-copa del rey games vs Real Sociedad. The strikers scored 7 of the 19 goals of this last 3 games from corner. And now with 21 games played the starters are 28 and 24 ( 21 games played 20 W 1 D 0 L 105 goals just 7 against ) With your tweak is like ... how can I say...more "adrenalinic" play...more dinamic ( yes,even more )

I tried to make a one striker version with two AMC one in ofensive role ( but with the striker in the left zone,not centre so the offensive AMC can go for the goal in the right space ) but I think the only AMC with the 2 DM are the key triangle of this tactic.
 
Latest match Ch League semi final 2nd leg vs Arsenal...

View attachment 314672

I should add C.Ronaldo is injured so it makes me happy that the young ones could take over again :)
James Rodriguez 3 assists 2 goals - He's now 3 assists away from reaching 50...pretty good player! :)
 
jesaustralia said:
Latest match Ch League semi final 2nd leg vs Arsenal...

View attachment 739523

I should add C.Ronaldo is injured so it makes me happy that the young ones could take over again :)
James Rodriguez 3 assists 2 goals - He's now 3 assists away from reaching 50...pretty good player! :)
Click to expand...

Hey jess, what summer update are you using in your save? Im thinking to start a new save. ( dont know if as real madrid or Man City.)

PD: You have a monster player in James!
 
bwomper said:
Hey jess, what summer update are you using in your save? Im thinking to start a new save. ( dont know if as real madrid or Man City.)

PD: You have a monster player in James!
Click to expand...

Alright my season just ended and I'm happy to say I did it, but it certainly didn't look like I would due to some bad matches being played probably tiredness of some sort.

La liga final league table - goal achieved now I hope to do better

View attachment 314651 View attachment 314650 View attachment 314649

Ch League Final vs FC Barcelona

View attachment 314648

I took the freedom to upload the the dbc update

SUMMER UPDATE 2014

Remember to put it in the right folder:

Example:

c:\Users\yourname\Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2013\editor data\

James Rodriguez is a wonderful player both in fm and in real life - I will say with all the stars in RMA he's probably not fulfilling his full potential real life - he needs to feel he is the star because he really is :)

About the choice of club can I just say I think Frankenstein will be best performing in spain due to how the many spanish clubs line up. If choosing Man.City don't expect to walk over everybody or get many highscoring games - I say it cause I semi tested that as well already and I find it very obvious because the tactic overperforms especially against opposition wing formations.

Cheers pal

ps I'm gonna test if their is anything further we can do in terms of tweaking now :)
 
Only I can say is BRAVO for those 200 goals! ( and for the only 16 against ).... well...I thinked about start a new save....but I look my near regen stars and...I think I will continue with this save,maybe in future lol.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

FMBase

Beta

Resources

Back
Top