Frankenstein Tactic 3-2-3-2

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Well I won all comps entered into and scored not as many goals as last season but let in fewer goals.. So season was better, found that the Destroyer V3 scored a lot of goals and would I'd say score more than the tweak or original tactic, which both are good.. Any way fixtures towards end of season, V3 was from Ath Madrid.

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very nice season mate,so you think destroyer v3 is better ? Im thinking to use destroyer v3 at home and possesion and no chances away.
 
Well I won all comps entered into and scored not as many goals as last season but let in fewer goals.. So season was better, found that the Destroyer V3 scored a lot of goals and would I'd say score more than the tweak or original tactic, which both are good.. Any way fixtures towards end of season, V3 was from Ath Madrid.

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Cool mate! - if you feel up to it I would like to hear how you go for a complete season. I'm still in doubt with destroyer3 - as you know to be sure of a tactics consistancy it need lots of matches, I'm going to play with the possession one a little I just beat barca 4-0 with 10 men at home using destroyer3 away i lost 2-0

Cheers guys
 
very nice season mate,so you think destroyer v3 is better ? Im thinking to use destroyer v3 at home and possesion and no chances away.

I don't know if it is better as I only played about 12 games.. But in league it was 38 goals in 8 games and team gel was extremely strong understanding. The possession and no chances I played only 4 games so not a good test on that. Original tactic scored goals as for me have the tweaks and new formations. Which is best not sure at the moment as new formation not tested for long enough.
 
Cool mate! - if you feel up to it I would like to hear how you go for a complete season. I'm still in doubt with destroyer3 - as you know to be sure of a tactics consistancy it need lots of matches, I'm going to play with the possession one a little I just beat barca 4-0 with 10 men at home using destroyer3 away i lost 2-0

Cheers guys

I can try a do a full season with it but might take several days to get there.. Can post up where I am at times or do an update, but as you can see the tactic worked for me 1 draw and all other games were wins.
 
original destroyer better than destroyer v3?

Seems like people get different results with the different versions - I have again outstanding players, but when I played Man.city in the ch league final I used destroyer3 and won 7-0, and that was with weaker players - in the supercup in the season after I played Barcelona away same tactic and great players I lost 2-0 which I count as a fail :) (They Played Bad TO)

If I should recommend what I think is best of the newly modified versions its the tweak version
I'm currently tweaking this one further using RMA watching comprehensive highlights (more than extended) I hope to release this today - Its going to be beneficial towards the strikers especially.

Cheers mate
 
TIP!

If not changing corner settings attack I can highly recommend using Dede as a DCR and near post flick on he will score tons of goals for you.
 
UPDATE!

Yes yet another update claiming the tactic has been improved :)

I have been working on improving the width tweak, and I can already say that its rather many changes that I have implemented in this wonderful Bwomper tactic!

The goal was too follow and improve something I read a while back - someone said that through balls are inefficient or non working in the 3D engine so I am open to peoples experiences and tweaked this tactic to fit that philosophy. Also a huge change in mentality from all players. Some small changes in the individual player instructions specifically the strikers

I tested what happened for my RMA team (Very good team) - I set highlights to comprehensive 20-30 minutes of watching per game (Very enjoyable - I recommend it!)

This is what I saw in my test

Short beautiful passes beginning from my defence

Brilliant Closing down the opponent - left opponent very frustrated and created many dangerous counter attacks

Brilliant positioning - My team was extremely compact and teamwork acted amazingly like a unit

Lots of chances created and many very big chances

My team lineups worked both with star players and those who will be stars of the future

I got a feeling that this tactic would be very difficult to conceede goals with so it might work for a lesser team!

In games against good opponents expect less possession and lots of possession against weaker teams

Goals many goals will be scored

The Tactic

Frankensteins - Frustrating Wife (positioning-CD-NO TB)

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Changes made started here

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Barca 2 red cards - we should have won by 3-4 more goals - I was very happy with this display

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This convinced me that I'm on to something meaning it wasn't just luck!

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The latest match vs a weak opponent no12 in la liga

TIP!

Thowin taker gets you a fair amount of important goals when having a specialist
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David Luiz is exellent at this - and Dede at the near post on throwins are powerful as well

Scoring lots of goals from corners - I use the same guy to take corner left & right
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James Rodriguez consistant getting 40+ assists a year - Important to play him often

The Corner - Indirect Freekick - Long throw Executioner - King DEDE - Queen David Luiz (good at this to)
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Combine a great corner kick taker with a jumping/heading/brave/strenght defender at the near post flick on

I also use James Rodriguez as my freekick taker - He doesn't score many from the direct freekicks - He lay on many from indirect freekicks though!

Penalties I also let James Rodriguez in charge - Composure very important here more than the penalty attribute

Ending

Anyway guys this is a work in progress meaning it might not be the final modified version of this tweak, but this one I really like. I ofcause would love to hear what you guys think of it, but I also know I keep spamming you with modified tweaks of Frankenstein and it can be to much :)

Oh and if you feel for trying to tweak this version yourself I recommend looking at the 2 inside forwards and the 2 strikers as the potential tweak areas!

Cheers guys
 
hahaha just see the name of the new tweak lol

Im near to start a new season in my madrid save so I will try this tweak from start.

Do you still recomend attack in match prep?
 
hahaha just see the name of the new tweak lol

Im near to start a new season in my madrid save so I will try this tweak from start.

Do you still recomend attack in match prep?

For all tactics you come across or use I recommend this setting

All season long

team cohesion - very high intensity - 50% (slider all the way to the left) - Attacking movement - rest day before & after match
Then i after each match rest players individually according to how much their condition is

So if condition is

73 or below= 3 days rest - 74-78= 2 days rest - 79-83= 1 days rest
This is along with rest before and after match ticked :)
This is my way of getting the players ready 96+ for each match

I hope you will have success with it - I think Frankensteins Wife wouldn't mind :)

tell me how you go mate - tell me what you see when playing the matches meaning if you see something that would maybe be good to change - also be aware that amc is now a real amc not a redrawn amc :)

Cheers
 
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For all tactics you come across or use I recommend this setting

All season long

team cohesion - very high intensity - 50% (slider all the way to the left) - Attacking movement - rest day before & after match
Then i after each match rest players individually according to how much their condition is

So if condition is

73 or below= 3 days rest - 74-78= 2 days rest - 79-83= 1 days rest
This is along with rest before and after match ticked :)
This is my way of getting the players ready 96+ for each match

I hope you will have success with it - I think Frankensteins Wife wouldn't mind :)

tell me how you go mate - tell me what you see when playing the matches meaning if you see something that would maybe be good to change - also be aware that amc is now a real amc not a redrawn amc :)

Cheers

Yeah,I see now the AMC act like in a more dangerous way in offence. And Its cool. I just play the CL final with this tactic ( so now im near to start my third season in this save ) and one goal from my AMC (Isco) and my centrar defender (Koscielny) with +65% of possesion (15 shots 7 on goal ) vs a very hard Juventus ( their formation is one of the most hard to play against ). This tweak look promising.

My squad (not confirmed yet,maybe I send some players on loan ) for this season :

GK : COURTOIS-B.LENO

CD : VARANE-DEDE.DAVID LUIZ-KOSCIELNY-AGGER-STRANDBERG-MARCOS ROJO

DM : KROOS-SCHNEIDERLIN-VERRATTI-RABIOT (on loan in tottenham)-ILLARRAMENDI-LEON GORETZKA

AML : FLORENZI-MARCO REUS

AMR : JAMES-MATA

AMC : ISCO-DE BRUYNE-PRAET-TIELEMANS ( with minutes in the youth squad )

STK : C.RONALDO-EL SHAARAWY-BALE (nice performance in striker possition-he is a left footed Ronaldo lol )-ONGENDA
 
A quick update on the Destroyer V3 tactic.. Have not lost a game yet, but in cup games away seem to only be able to draw. Is for me a better home tactic but is destroying teams away in league. SS of fixtures so far.

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A quick update on the Destroyer V3 tactic.. Have not lost a game yet, but in cup games away seem to only be able to draw. Is for me a better home tactic but is destroying teams away in league. SS of fixtures so far.

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That convince me I was having a lucky match vs Man.city - I would change to Frankensteins Wife :)
 
This game...arrrrgggg.....how is possible fail the last 5 penalty shoots ? 3 James (two of them in the same match) 1 Kroos and 1 Ronaldo ?

Anyway...

This tactic is cool too watch too. One thing I can see in the start of this season is my rigth DM score more than my strikers. My AMR/AML plays so individual and I see more long shoots than the finalversion for example. Maybe depends of my players.
 
This game...arrrrgggg.....how is possible fail the last 5 penalty shoots ? 3 James (two of them in the same match) 1 Kroos and 1 Ronaldo ?

Anyway...

This tactic is cool too watch too. One thing I can see in the start of this season is my rigth DM score more than my strikers. My AMR/AML plays so individual and I see more long shoots than the finalversion for example. Maybe depends of my players.

Malaga match a very good indicator of quality :)

Penalties can be frustrasting - I have had C.Ronaldo miss 3 penalties in the same match :(

Who's your right dmc?

Its probably due to his hidden stats meaning =Consistancy and the visable attributes combined

The Strikers= try to set their creative freedom to 18 - they are both or all 3 superstars Bale/Ronaldo/Benzema - so letting them choose will maybe improve their efficiency.

Amrl/r doing longshots indicates a problem with them and the sourrounding players - they don't have the space they need because its filled up by the amc and the 2 strikers. The width tweak I feel they were working alright scoring goals, now they work maybe more as wingers because they still perform strongly for me, scoring many goals is important for strikers in my opinon creating many assists is important for the wings and the attacking midfielder.

What I find very important as well in this tactic is the solid pressure and the opponents difficulty creating chances.

Even player preferred moves can have a saying in your wingers performance, anyone really and can even be the reason why you see your dmcr score more than the strikers.

That they score 13 goals in a league match having 35+ chances is spectacular - that's what the width tweak did as well and what Wooow would be capable of. Not many tactics would be able to do this out their.

Cheers mate
 
Schneiderlin he's a lovely dmc and will score several goals 2 others like this is Pogba and Koke - I can also say that Kroos is more of an amc to be honest - Wilshere scores goals too from the dm position, but would probably be even better as a amc.

I love Isco though :)
 
I am testing Frankensteins wife - setting both strikers to creative freedom 18 - I know what you wanna see from this - Hattricks and things like that - me too :) - this is all I change - I'll report back later

I think strong strikers might be good in this formation - better than the likes of Ongenda - Messi - Fierro - V.Fischer

Ronaldo should have a lovely time in this formation - Maupay too - Costa (Brazil/Spaniard) - Benzia - Benzema - Bale

Unrelated to this post

Spain have qualified European Championship using the width tweak and Frankensteins wife a little

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I expected that - best performing tactic was the width tweak, but remember its hard to judge because the tactic isn't fluid during the qualification. Will go for the Frankensteins wife in the Euro2016 in France :) - England in our group :( so is Croatia and Slovakia - I want to win this thing :)

Spain have played a few training matches

Holland & Mexico the most notable both 3-1 wins and all matches since taken this job has ended up with a victory so Spain is right up their with the best for sure.

Cheers
 
The pressure is for sure one of the best things that tactic have.

My right DM is Schneiderlin usually. Isco as AMC make some long shots too. AML/AMR are Reus(Florenzi)-James(Mata) and both make some long shoots out of goal. But is not an important thing and sometimes score ...

My strikers are Ronaldo-Bale/El Shaarawy-Ongenda. They make good games but not always score.
I will try to put c.freedom to 18 thanks for the tip.
 
The pressure is for sure one of the best things that tactic have.

My right DM is Schneiderlin usually. Isco as AMC make some long shots too. AML/AMR are Reus(Florenzi)-James(Mata) and both make some long shoots out of goal. But is not an important thing and sometimes score ...

My strikers are Ronaldo-Bale/El Shaarawy-Ongenda. They make good games but not always score.
I will try to put c.freedom to 18 thanks for the tip.

Yea being in the middle of testing this I don't think this will help either I/we need to look for a 3rd option - though it makes good sense to give lots of CF to superstars like C.Ronaldo.

I'm gonna try and copy Gooaall262 or Marcelo striker settings and see how it goes

Keep experimenting :)
 
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