JESAUSTRALIA - TOP TEAMS - OUT OF THE CLOSET!!

ManUnited20 said:
not the link i looking for, there is to different tactic and i what to know with one
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No mate Wide secret has only 1 version at the link I gave you above - If its not this one you are looking for - do you know the name - check out the front page close to the top if you are in doubt of the name.

Cheers
 
jesaustralia said:
JESAUSTRALIA WIDE SECRET (442)

FORMATION:

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Wide secret shows so much promise that I had to release it for you guys - its a boring looking 4-4-2 formation, but with a huge twist :) - 2 wide playmakers - guess where they will roam too - you guessed it right I reckon close to CAM position - but why should this be good and why call it a secret? - well when the wide playmaker roam from his position he leaves alot of space for the attacking fullbacks to utilize and they sure does - I love that :) - so why the name wide secret? I wanted to call it Instant Wide Secret, but I found it a bit provocking to some people and I don't have those intentions - apparently the assman changing of the wide midfielder role to either winger or wide playmaker as it suits the players qualities better - when using instant results - good find by the way we still need some proof on this one don't we. Enough about this - on to the tactic.

Tactic is very much possession based using not 1 playmaker but 4 playmakers 2 wide playmakers on attack duty - 2 roaming pm's on support duty so when you are on the ball and attack the opponent it looks something like this with fullbacks a little less withdrawn, but highly available

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As you can see very attacking - very dominating and multiple passing options available - so where did the false 9's go? well if using false 9's in a system like this - you would more than likely see a bunch of morons running into each other - so I decided to go with my favourite role - THE POACHER/PUNISHER :D - I have tested many tactics and whenever I saw poachers involved I saw many goals.

Some people saids that wide mids are king - but in all respect it really depends on the system you use + who is trying anything without them these days? :)

Tactic has not been tested - but I use it in my personal save currently - its still early days - but the tendencies that is going on made me release it. When I have played a bit more with it I will release some results and also give you a verdict - ofcourse feel free to try it out yourself.

My recommendation:

Wide playmakers - are not easy to find - I'll actually suggest to find 4 CAMS for your setup and then retrain them - obviously vision - decisions are extremely important - I also think a reversed foot can be beneficial in this case - so wide mid right=left foot

wide mid left=right foot. decent finishing would not hurt either - I normally use A.Zivkovic on the left and Otormin on the right - Neymar would be fantastic on the left I don't have him :'(. Role training - same

Roaming playmakers - is a bit simular to the wide ones - except they play in the centre further back on the pitch - Renato Sanches is a perfect guy for this position, but I reckon you would already know. Role training - same

Poachers - those selfish sons of bi..... - well but they do it well - alternatively change it to advanced forward if you don't like it. Role training - complete forward - I always train my strikers on the complete forward schedule as I feel the strikers train faster - (maybe its my imagination) and their is several attributes I find rewarding for a striker when on the complete forward schedule.

Attacking Fullbacks - really needs to be as complete as possible - the crossing attribute being really important - I always train that as the extra training I give them - Role training - Complete wingback schedule - should cover anything necessary.

Defenders - I honestly think you know Role training - ball playing defender schedule - Several attributes you don't get on the normal central defender schedule - so ball playing it is!! :)


OI's:

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In my book less is more - when we talk about oi's - Mrl had trememendous success with this setup and I have had it as well, but maybe you have a better setting - if you do please share it.

TRAINING:

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I like fitness general training, but I feel team cohesion is more valuable overall - but I will say it like this if you are the type who never buy any new players and rotate alot in your squad - use fitness - however if you have a talent for upsetting players and buying lots of players in a short amount of time then go with team cohesion - it will help you out a bit - since I always create tactics for top teams I recommend attacking movement 50% low or average intensity

RESULTS:

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If you are a losing team go to the front page and scroll to the bottom of the post too try and identify what's wrong.

As always you guys are great and I appreciate that I can share my visions in football manager with you all - this is my passion which also involves my happiness - so thank you to you all for giving me that joy - I don't forget it.

Cheers
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ok^^,

i see the tactic, when you download it, it has the 4-2-2 formation.
but what is the 2nd formation you posted?
 
remcosj said:
ok^^,

i see the tactic, when you download it, it has the 4-2-2 formation.
but what is the 2nd formation you posted?
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Don't be lazy go back and read the release post!! - their is no 2nd formation - their is an illustration when you are on the ball (possession) its a very attacking formation
 
Hold my first ever team meeting

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Now I do feel compelled to tweak the tactic, but I wanna see how this pans out over the season - their is the potential of changing the striker roles - I'm specifically thinking either complete forwards attack or support and then their is ofcause a more direct approach compared to the current one.

are anyone trying it yet?
 
jesaustralia said:
JESAUSTRALIA WIDE SECRET (442)

FORMATION:

View attachment 1056861

Wide secret shows so much promise that I had to release it for you guys - its a boring looking 4-4-2 formation, but with a huge twist :) - 2 wide playmakers - guess where they will roam too - you guessed it right I reckon close to CAM position - but why should this be good and why call it a secret? - well when the wide playmaker roam from his position he leaves alot of space for the attacking fullbacks to utilize and they sure does - I love that :) - so why the name wide secret? I wanted to call it Instant Wide Secret, but I found it a bit provocking to some people and I don't have those intentions - apparently the assman changing of the wide midfielder role to either winger or wide playmaker as it suits the players qualities better - when using instant results - good find by the way we still need some proof on this one don't we. Enough about this - on to the tactic.

Tactic is very much possession based using not 1 playmaker but 4 playmakers 2 wide playmakers on attack duty - 2 roaming pm's on support duty so when you are on the ball and attack the opponent it looks something like this with fullbacks a little less withdrawn, but highly available

View attachment 1056881

As you can see very attacking - very dominating and multiple passing options available - so where did the false 9's go? well if using false 9's in a system like this - you would more than likely see a bunch of morons running into each other - so I decided to go with my favourite role - THE POACHER/PUNISHER :D - I have tested many tactics and whenever I saw poachers involved I saw many goals.

Some people saids that wide mids are king - but in all respect it really depends on the system you use + who is trying anything without them these days? :)

Tactic has not been tested - but I use it in my personal save currently - its still early days - but the tendencies that is going on made me release it. When I have played a bit more with it I will release some results and also give you a verdict - ofcourse feel free to try it out yourself.

My recommendation:

Wide playmakers - are not easy to find - I'll actually suggest to find 4 CAMS for your setup and then retrain them - obviously vision - decisions are extremely important - I also think a reversed foot can be beneficial in this case - so wide mid right=left foot

wide mid left=right foot. decent finishing would not hurt either - I normally use A.Zivkovic on the left and Otormin on the right - Neymar would be fantastic on the left I don't have him :'(. Role training - same

Roaming playmakers - is a bit simular to the wide ones - except they play in the centre further back on the pitch - Renato Sanches is a perfect guy for this position, but I reckon you would already know. Role training - same

Poachers - those selfish sons of bi..... - well but they do it well - alternatively change it to advanced forward if you don't like it. Role training - complete forward - I always train my strikers on the complete forward schedule as I feel the strikers train faster - (maybe its my imagination) and their is several attributes I find rewarding for a striker when on the complete forward schedule.

Attacking Fullbacks - really needs to be as complete as possible - the crossing attribute being really important - I always train that as the extra training I give them - Role training - Complete wingback schedule - should cover anything necessary.

Defenders - I honestly think you know Role training - ball playing defender schedule - Several attributes you don't get on the normal central defender schedule - so ball playing it is!! :)


OI's:

View attachment 1056862

In my book less is more - when we talk about oi's - Mrl had trememendous success with this setup and I have had it as well, but maybe you have a better setting - if you do please share it.

TRAINING:

View attachment 1056865

I like fitness general training, but I feel team cohesion is more valuable overall - but I will say it like this if you are the type who never buy any new players and rotate alot in your squad - use fitness - however if you have a talent for upsetting players and buying lots of players in a short amount of time then go with team cohesion - it will help you out a bit - since I always create tactics for top teams I recommend attacking movement 50% low or average intensity

RESULTS:

View attachment 1057058 View attachment 1057059 View attachment 1057060 View attachment 1057061 View attachment 1057062 View attachment 1057063

If you are a losing team go to the front page and scroll to the bottom of the post too try and identify what's wrong.

As always you guys are great and I appreciate that I can share my visions in football manager with you all - this is my passion which also involves my happiness - so thank you to you all for giving me that joy - I don't forget it.

Cheers
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hi

What do you mean with 4 CAMS?

cheers
 
tragic_epilogue said:
I'll actually suggest to find 4 CAMS for your setup and then retrain them
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Sometimes you really need to be specific lol - my apoligiez that I weren't :)
The 4 cams I'm talking about is players I would retrain to wide playmakers - so 2 on each side - 1 1st team player and 1 backup in both sides. It can be tough to find wide playmakers in game so I suggest to retrain cam's due to this. - I will also suggest to use playmakers with reversed foot - right foot in the left side - left foot in the right side - however if you don't have it - ignore it

Cheers
 
jesaustralia said:
Sometimes you really need to be specific lol - my apoligiez that I weren't :)
The 4 cams I'm talking about is players I would retrain to wide playmakers - so 2 on each side - 1 1st team player and 1 backup in both sides. It can be tough to find wide playmakers in game so I suggest to retrain cam's due to this. - I will also suggest to use playmakers with reversed foot - right foot in the left side - left foot in the right side - however if you don't have it - ignore it

Cheers
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Thank for the answer.

cheers
 
And by the way, that was the first game using this tactic. Finished 6-1 - Unbelievable.
 
denners8 said:
And by the way, that was the first game using this tactic. Finished 6-1 - Unbelievable.
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Yes the tendency is goals - the first version did it with 1 goal more but the defence was leaking much more - but direct winger leaks much less compared to the 1st version and then its a direct tactic. Much different from anyone else in the forum. I hope it will serve you well - also remember to check out the sicilian accident if you get to the top team stage this is the best performing tactic in existance (tested atleast)

Cheers
 
jesaustralia said:
Yes the tendency is goals - the first version did it with 1 goal more but the defence was leaking much more - but direct winger leaks much less compared to the 1st version and then its a direct tactic. Much different from anyone else in the forum. I hope it will serve you well - also remember to check out the sicilian accident if you get to the top team stage this is the best performing tactic in existance (tested atleast)

Cheers
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hi jesaustralia,

What about wide secret test?

cheers
 
tragic_epilogue said:
hi jesaustralia,

What about wide secret test?

cheers
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I am using it in my personal save undefeated - infact all victories in the league- their isn't any test of this - all I can say is some modest words about it - I highly recommend it - its very strong in defence and it does well in offence - and I'm about to checkout how it will do on a more attacking mentality.

cheers
 
jesaustralia said:
I am using it in my personal save undefeated - infact all victories in the league- their isn't any test of this - all I can say is some modest words about it - I highly recommend it - its very strong in defence and it does well in offence - and I'm about to checkout how it will do on a more attacking mentality.

cheers
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hi jesaustralia

can you make wide secret more strong in attack?

Cheers
 
tragic_epilogue said:
hi jesaustralia

can you make wide secret more strong in attack?

Cheers
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Yes infact most of the tactics around in this forum can be made stronger in attack - but for many it will throw them out of balance - so its more a question of finding the sweet spot combined with top notch players/quality - some teams can't handle such an improvement and some teams in rare cases will blossom if an improvement like that is made :)

If you have a really great team like unbelievable great - regent team - you could change mentality to attacking - this risk and reward setting can be highly luxurious - when that is said - control seems like the best overall balance for what Wide secret stands for.

In all honesty I'm very happy with wide secret as it is - it does what no other tactics have been able to for my Barca team - win everything it comes near.

Hope this help you

Cheers
 
This is a test to see how imgur works

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Writing note to myself - I dragged dropped image from imgur to the forum post.

Guys like it if you think the size of the image is looking good - I don't know if I can make it any bigger - I will attempt to do so

cheers
 
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