JP Woody V3 (Total Football)

[JP Woody]

Some good wheeling and dealing,out with the old and in with the young,and you nicked Jonjo Shelvey from Liverpool You will have to give your team a good gelling period because you have bought and sold so many but once they get used to each other and the tactic you should do very well.

 

[Bahumat]

Some good wheeling and dealing,out with the old and in with the young,and you nicked Jonjo Shelvey from Liverpool You will have to give your team a good gelling period because you have bought and sold so many but once they get used to each other and the tactic you should do very well.

Yeah the 'gelling' period is always horrible hehe.
The way I see it, try and buy all the players you want at the start, cause that way when you put them into the first team after a season or two, they can speak the language, know the club/players which I 'think' may speed up their transition into the first team - thus lowering the gelling time.

I just beat Inter Milan 3-0 in the Super Cup whoop whoop!

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Still on national reputation for my team (No idea why, Im ranked 5-8 in Europe every season, any ideas on that?), so cant keep my best players for long

I noticed club reputation is hard to increase (my players kept asking to leave). I did not play my game save as long as you, but this is what happened for me;

Club - Southend United

Year 1 - I finish top of Division 1. Promoted to the Championship
Year 2 - I finish 2nd in the Championship (I am promoted via play offs)
Year 3 - I finish 13th in the English Premier League (Premiership)
Year 4 - I finish 4th in the English Premier League (Premiership)
Year 5 - I finish 3rd in the English Premier League (Premiership). 2nd, 3rd, 4th were all even on points, but Man Utd scored more than me. I also got to the quater finals of the Champions League before losing to Barcelona.

Using Genie Scout I checked my club reputation. It was 7400. Man Utd's club reputation is 9700.

I checked teams like Aston Villa, Everton etc. These clubs finish in the top half of the table every year. Their reputation was the same as mine.

One other problem I noticed is the board were not willing to improve the stadium.

 

[JP Woody]

You can stop bigger clubs coming in and unsettling your star players by putting huge price tags on them,it usually puts them off.

 

[Mike.]

hey JP, you say this tactic is plug and play, does that mean you dont make any changes against opposition (ie, going defensive, counter, or using touchline shouts etc)?

sorry if is a silly question, i only ask since in my tactics i use touchline shouts and mentality changes to apadt and beat my opposition

 

[JP Woody]

hey JP, you say this tactic is plug and play, does that mean you dont make any changes against opposition (ie, going defensive, counter, or using touchline shouts etc)?

sorry if is a silly question, i only ask since in my tactics i use touchline shouts and mentality changes to apadt and beat my opposition

Thats right,i didnt make any changes during my test. Thats not to say it wont work though,im just lazy. There is cerainly no harm in going o defensive or contain to defend a lead or going to overload to get a goal or 2. Just i havent tried it thats all.

 

[wiltshire_bee]

I'm going to give this a try. been using the Complete Dominance tactic, but it's gone a bit stale on me. I'm managing Blackpool in the Premier League 2016/2017 season, last season finished 10th, now struggling at 15th and very inconsistent, so will start with your tactic and see how I go.

not seen many using this with anything other than the top european sides, so hopefully it works for Blackpool.

how soon is the tactic likely to take effect, as will it take time for the team to adapt..?...sorry if that's a stupid question.

 

[baggieboy999]

Hi everyone,

Just finished my 1st season with Sunderland using this tactic and we finished 6th. With a record of P38 W19 D9 L10 F78 A51 Pts 66. Finishing as top scorers in the division

I did buy a ton of players though some of which are still trying to settle in the area , so next season with just 2 or 3 signings we should have a good season.

Lost early in in league cup and lost to Chelsea in semi final of F.A cup on penaltys.

1 thing that baffled me is we could go 3 or 4 matches without conceding then Liverpool / Arsenal etc would knock 4 or 5 past me mainly with 30 yrd screamers.

Anyways thanks for the tactic JP and ill let you know how season 2 go's

 

[JP Woody]

how soon is the tactic likely to take effect, as will it take time for the team to adapt..?...sorry if that's a stupid question.

Depends on how many players bought and sold and what style your current players are used to.

Hi everyone,

Just finished my 1st season with Sunderland using this tactic and we finished 6th. With a record of P38 W19 D9 L10 F78 A51 Pts 66. Finishing as top scorers in the division

I did buy a ton of players though some of which are still trying to settle in the area , so next season with just 2 or 3 signings we should have a good season.

Lost early in in league cup and lost to Chelsea in semi final of F.A cup on penaltys.

1 thing that baffled me is we could go 3 or 4 matches without conceding then Liverpool / Arsenal etc would knock 4 or 5 past me mainly with 30 yrd screamers.

Anyways thanks for the tactic JP and ill let you know how season 2 go's

Not bad,suprised you are getting beat by 4 and 5,not really happened to me. What was the condition of your players like? what was the weather like? I seem to struggle when its wet and windy.

 

[baggieboy999]

Not bad,suprised you are getting beat by 4 and 5,not really happened to me. What was the condition of your players like? what was the weather like? I seem to struggle when its wet and windy.

Not really bad weather , the Liverpool game i had 59% of the posession and more shots etc. Just seemed everything they hit went in.(we lost 5-2)

Might bring in a DMC with a bit less aggression as well I was 2-1 up against Arsenal and looking comfortable when Cana got sent off for lunging in (Aggression 20) and we lost 3-2.

And we was beating Man Utd 2-0 at home and cruising When Annan (Aggression 17) got a straight red and we ended up drawing 2-2.

 

[JP Woody]

Not really bad weather , the Liverpool game i had 59% of the posession and more shots etc. Just seemed everything they hit went in.(we lost 5-2)

Might bring in a DMC with a bit less aggression as well I was 2-1 up against Arsenal and looking comfortable when Cana got sent off for lunging in (Aggression 20) and we lost 3-2.

And we was beating Man Utd 2-0 at home and cruising When Annan (Aggression 17) got a straight red and we ended up drawing 2-2.

Yeah,thats just bad luck,it happens. Ive just beaten Man Utd 2-0 with an avarage Boro side, we had 24 shots,13 on target and 7 clear cut chances, they had 4 shots and 2 on target,so stick with it.

 

[wiltshire_bee]

I've been play 4-1-2-1-2 the Mr Hough Complete Dominance Tactic...

 

[Jamie F]

If anybody is struggling away from home or have a very weak squad I suggest changing the mentality to Standard, My Tenerife side had 23 shots against a strong Racing side even though I had a man sent off after 30 minutes. Just thought I would share that. And JP, I am 2 points off 7th with 4 games left which would leave me playing European football with Tenerife. And this is just from half a season where before hand I was 15th. Top work

 

[Flohrinho]

Hi JP. I just wanted to say I like the concept of your tactic a lot and some of the plays look really great but there are a few things that I have serious problems with.

First I sometimes have real problems with my DCL and DCR exposing their sides when a cross comes from the other side which leads almsot all the time to a very easy goal.

Second the individual mistake rate from my defenders seams to be higher with this formation then with any other since they miss so many crosses and often stay way too far away from their opponents.

Another thing I've noticed is that I have the feeling that the attacking midfielder and the complete forward too often get in each others way.

I have some Ideas how this could be fixed and will try it out now. First I want to set the DCL and DCR to "man" marking and wide play to "hug touchline". This way I hope they won't be clunking with the DC in the middle so much and are more encouraged to stay wide and won't expose the far post so much.

The Problem with the AM could probably be solved when I set the AM to a support role as well or let the complete striker play as a "Trequartista" instead to avoid that both will run through the middle.

I'll give you some feedback when I'm done testing.

 

[Bahumat]

One question JP - My MCr is Ledesma (Lazio). He loves long shots and I notice an annoying trend. Right sided poacher gets forced out wide, turns round and passes to MCr (Ledesma) who instead of passing to the central striker or anyone else, smashes the ball a thousand miles an hour! It does mean alot of moves break down cause of this.

Do you find the MCl or MCr do this on yours? Or am I cursed by a long shot wannabe?

p.s. I told him to stop long range shooting but he told me "tough luck, no chance" lol

 

[MetalHeroChris]

Hi JP. I just wanted to say I like the concept of your tactic a lot and some of the plays look really great but there are a few things that I have serious problems with.

First I sometimes have real problems with my DCL and DCR exposing their sides when a cross comes from the other side which leads almsot all the time to a very easy goal.

Second the individual mistake rate from my defenders seams to be higher with this formation then with any other since they miss so many crosses and often stay way too far away from their opponents.

Another thing I've noticed is that I have the feeling that the attacking midfielder and the complete forward too often get in each others way.

I have some Ideas how this could be fixed and will try it out now. First I want to set the DCL and DCR to "man" marking and wide play to "hug touchline". This way I hope they won't be clunking with the DC in the middle so much and are more encouraged to stay wide and won't expose the far post so much.

The Problem with the AM could probably be solved when I set the AM to a support role as well or let the complete striker play as a "Trequartista" instead to avoid that both will run through the middle.

I'll give you some feedback when I'm done testing.

Been doing a little test myself of setting the complete forward to "Trequartista" and two things I noticed are that he scores more and he doesn't run into the AMC as often if at all. Will keep testing this though. (trying it with Portsmouth)

 

[Jamie F]

Ok, best result in a very long time, went 1-0 down, last game of the season so I said to **** with it let's go overload and this sorta happened

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[JP Woody]

One question JP - My MCr is Ledesma (Lazio). He loves long shots and I notice an annoying trend. Right sided poacher gets forced out wide, turns round and passes to MCr (Ledesma) who instead of passing to the central striker or anyone else, smashes the ball a thousand miles an hour! It does mean alot of moves break down cause of this.

Do you find the MCl or MCr do this on yours? Or am I cursed by a long shot wannabe?

p.s. I told him to stop long range shooting but he told me "tough luck, no chance" lol

Its because the team are playing expressive,your giving players freedom to shoot when they please.

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Ok, best result in a very long time, went 1-0 down, last game of the season so I said to **** with it let's go overload and this sorta happened

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WOW! i did say changing mentality during a game may work if you need it a goal

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Been doing a little test myself of setting the complete forward to "Trequartista" and two things I noticed are that he scores more and he doesn't run into the AMC as often if at all. Will keep testing this though. (trying it with Portsmouth)

Ill give it a try too,see what happens.

 

[Bahumat]

I got to 15 games and was stuck around 7th-12th place. i decided to go on holiday till the end of the season.

Lazio finished 11th and scored 45 goals. They conceded 47 goals. I was fired

The one thing i noticed about teh formation is wide play. Some teams put me under constant pressure from diagonal long balls. Also far post crosses were hard to defend against. I realise this is something a formation with 3 cb's will suffer against. Obviously going on holiday does not give a proper representation of the formation, however it just did not feel right when I played the games so maybe Lazio do not have the right team for this?

Thanks for all the help and advice JP

 

[Jamie F]

By the way JP, Finished 9th with Tenerife, Semis of the Copa Del Rey and a **** of a lot of goals. Screenie below for proof. Nino knocked in 28 in the league and 30 in the poacher (left) position. I am most pleased

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[JP Woody]

I got to 15 games and was stuck around 7th-12th place. i decided to go on holiday till the end of the season.

Lazio finished 11th and scored 45 goals. They conceded 47 goals. I was fired

The one thing i noticed about teh formation is wide play. Some teams put me under constant pressure from diagonal long balls. Also far post crosses were hard to defend against. I realise this is something a formation with 3 cb's will suffer against. Obviously going on holiday does not give a proper representation of the formation, however it just did not feel right when I played the games so maybe Lazio do not have the right team for this?

Thanks for all the help and advice JP

Going on holiday is proven to be a flawed way of testing tactics.