Making The Best Tactic

[Arkle]

it is extremely easy dominating and scoring as many goals as you do with Barca as they are the best team in the game! you could use a default 4-3-3 and still win most games... it does not take a genius to create a semi decent tactic for teams such as Barca etc...

take this exact same tactic and use it on a club like Le Mans or Freiburg etc and see how well it does the best way to guage a tactic is by using a neutral team say for example Udinese, Everton, Hoffenheim, Getafe!

the tactic i was using last night saw blackpool 7th after 10 games, only losing to Man City and Arsenal, but those games were only 2-1 and 2-0

 

[Gump]

Im using now a bit different tactic, Ive got no striker in my line-up, Instead I have an AMC with Trequartista, this being VDV in this case. Played couple games, tho those sides arent exactly the hardest..

Here are the results of using this tactic;

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Notice that Tom Huddlestone is Deep Lying Playmaker with Support

And rofl, Capdevila got nice amount of passes against Newcastle;

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[maxpg]

Yeh I know that but my main goal with Barca was just to get Xavi and Iniesta duo making the game and I fail in it still, since the game somehow always goes via the flanks and by Wingbacks got most passes and same happens also with Tottenham here..

But now I had probably the best game with Tottenham versus Chelsea...

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Im getting annoyed by the fact that if I set Primary Playmaker to Modric or VDV, sum naab from flank or even the freaking goalkeeper gets more passes than him. Seen this as Ive watched, I manage to move the ball around the defenders and flanks, but then I fail to get them passing more between midfielders and sometimes using defenders as a way to get more time and space and then get the ball back to them u know? I want Modric & VDV or Xavi & Iniesta to get over 100 Passes per game! But this probably impossible, mebbey the game engine aint good enuf..

i may be wrong but isnt the reason the full backs have alot of the ball because they have the most space. modric vdv etc are more likely to be marked or at least have someone close to them whereas the full backs will almost always be available for a pass.

 

[SS19]

i'd rather win 1-0 than 7-6

It's your choise, but you can build up a solid defence without good possession.

 

[cooper123456]

Mine Gone Wrong So Starting Again From Fresh Hopefully Will get Some WHere

 

[Gump]

i may be wrong but isnt the reason the full backs have alot of the ball because they have the most space. modric vdv etc are more likely to be marked or at least have someone close to them whereas the full backs will almost always be available for a pass.

Yeh but still they shud be able to break free from the marking. The thing is that no matter how I try to get them be free for pass, they aint.

And Im starting also a fresh game with Tottenham, I like em

 

[cooper123456]

I Might Have Come up With A Tactic That Would Work But For me to Find I Shall Try It with A Upper Middle Club i.e. Everton Aston Villa Fulham Sunderland will Report Back

 

[XeNoNF50]

My 4-2-3-1 narrow with 3 AMC's is starting to work well. I keep tweaking it, sometimes it goes wrong so I revert back, sometimes it goes perfect and now I think I have found a consistent tactic. I will get a consistent run with the tactic to see if it works against everyone.

anyway here is my last result with it

As you can see 5 CCC's 73% possession and 88% pass completion. The football it played was absolutely beautiful too. My defensive CM completed 72 passes from 73 attempted and my Left Back completed 83 from 88.

Also Pedro who is in AMC but towards the right has got an overall 96% pass completion over the 2 league games that he has played which is crazy for an attacking midfielder! Last game he completed 26 passes in 27.

Anyway like I said I will continue to test it and see if it is viable to post it.

EDIT: Just added the last 2 screenshots into the post.

 

[Raikan007]

another Barca team tactic.... well done wish I had some sort of drive to play Fm at the moment (which I dont) please can someone use a team like Fulham, Freiburg, Racing etc and make a tactic... its pointless using Barca.. lol

 

[cooper123456]

i Opt For Fulham Even Tho I Support Them i beleive them To be the Weakest Of The 4 So has i Did With Blackpool I organised Friendly's Agaist Better Teams Such as
Villareal
Dortmund
Sevilla
Leverkusen And Many more will report after

 

[Gump]

Well Ive had success with Barca with 4-5-1 formation, getting those kind of ratings etc. Won Betis 4 - 0 tho

As said before, not hard to have success with Barca

 

[XeNoNF50]

I'll test it in a bit with a mid table English team to see how it fares

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Using the tactics I was talking about above here is what happened when I used a Bolton team to play vs a Man City team.

Match Stats:

Player Stats:

Passing Chalkboard:

Movements:

Well my analysis of the match is that as Bolton I completely dominated Man City. Their goal came off a cross where Tevez converted a half chance. The 3 Bolton goals were firstly a corner (playing as Barca I scored 9 league goals in 31 games with Gerard Pique) where Zat Knight converted. The 2nd goal was the best passing and moving play I have ever seen on FM. Possibly better than any goal my Barcelona have scored. This goal was not a clear cut chance but was scored inside the box. Borderline clear cut although the game didn't see it that way. The 3rd goal was a forced own goal.

I don't think the Bolton side converted any of the two clear cut chances made in the game. Of course they have players with poor finishing, that goes without saying. You can also see that my Bolton side hit the woodwork two times also. With a bit of luck they would have gone in and it would have finished 5-1 The movements of my Bolton side was pretty much amazing whereas City's was very restricted because they were dominated.

Anyway I think this shows that this might not be "just another Barcelona tactic." Works with a much weaker Bolton side against a superior Man City side both controlling possession, playing beautiful football as well as winning. I will continue testing, but most probably with my Barcelona side because playing as Bolton does not interest me at all!

 

[Arkle]

i feel ive nearly done it, 55-70% most games with Blackpool, even against strong teams, though i struggle against counter attacking teams and my 'everyone defend set pieces' tactic isnt working as well as i planned i still need to tweak the formation a bit though, as there seems to be a lack of movement up from, and will probably try again with a play maker

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I'll test it in a bit with a mid table English team to see how it fares

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Using the tactics I was talking about above here is what happened when I used a Bolton team to play vs a Man City team.

Match Stats:

Player Stats:

Passing Chalkboard:

Movements:

Well my analysis of the match is that as Bolton I completely dominated Man City. Their goal came off a cross where Tevez converted a half chance. The 3 Bolton goals were firstly a corner (playing as Barca I scored 9 league goals in 31 games with Gerard Pique) where Zat Knight converted. The 2nd goal was the best passing and moving play I have ever seen on FM. Possibly better than any goal my Barcelona have scored. This goal was not a clear cut chance but was scored inside the box. Borderline clear cut although the game didn't see it that way. The 3rd goal was a forced own goal.

I don't think the Bolton side converted any of the two clear cut chances made in the game. Of course they have players with poor finishing, that goes without saying. You can also see that my Bolton side hit the woodwork two times also. With a bit of luck they would have gone in and it would have finished 5-1 The movements of my Bolton side was pretty much amazing whereas City's was very restricted because they were dominated.

Anyway I think this shows that this might not be "just another Barcelona tactic." Works with a much weaker Bolton side against a superior Man City side both controlling possession, playing beautiful football as well as winning. I will continue testing, but most probably with my Barcelona side because playing as Bolton does not interest me at all!

there looks like theres some promise there mate, but i would like to see how it does in a competition as friendlies can be a bit misleading

 

[XeNoNF50]

The thing is even though it was a friendly I used FMRTE to put both team's fitness and morale highest and both match preparations as full. But I will try a full game.

 

[Gump]

Xenon, not bad yet do it with Swansea and I will raise my hat for U and give U big applause.

 

[XeNoNF50]

Swansea aren't in the premiership so I can't really do it in a competitive game!

 

[Arkle]

Xenon, not bad yet do it with Swansea and I will raise my hat for U and give U big applause.

oi swansea are a world class team!

 

[Gump]

And Xenon if U could post or PM me the settings of ur team (Team instructions, player ones etc)

Im curious to know as I might just try it with Tottenham, once Im starting a fresh save

 

[XeNoNF50]

And Xenon if U could post or PM me the settings of ur team (Team instructions, player ones etc)

Im curious to know as I might just try it with Tottenham, once Im starting a fresh save

I've PM'd you my whole tactic mate

 

[mudiiiiii]

My suggestion, if wanting to construct a non exploiting stable tactic that keeps possesion in advanced positions as well as restrict the opponenst to having their share of possession on none dangerous areas would be someting like this

Step 1. Use the Tc
step 2 - Set up a 4231 with 2 MCs
Step 3 - Use Balanced - Attack, any roles will do as they will be set later
Step 4 - Finish the tactic
Step 5 - Fixate the width, d-line and closing down so that they stay this way no matter what changes we make
Step 6 - Change the Strategy to Defensive
Step 7 - Set the Closing down so that they are all on the first notch of "Whole pitch"

Here, we will have a cautious approach within a really controlling one. After this, I would just set the roles accordingly to the players at hand. Perhaps one deeplying playmaker, one ballwinner, wingbacks on attack for top teams etc etc.

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I am not saying that they should dominate possession but instead that the major part of their possession should be restricted to that area. If we have a 50 - 50 share of possession and our is 10(d)-25(m)-15(a) and theirs are 30(d)-15(m) 5(a), then I am all happy with this

You are a genius!! those intructions helped me achieve more passes from the whole team, and from xavi! awesome.