Manchester United vs Leeds

[WesleyLUFC]

Here's my two shillings, nice and quick.

- Beckford is not the "brilliant" player everyone's describing him as. Just because he scored the winenr against scum does not make him a premiership player. He plays in League 1 and yes he can hit the back of the net, no doubt about it. But his all-round play is pretty sub-standard. First touch is poor, link-up play is poor and he tends to be too greedy SOMETIMES. Will do ok if he goes to Newcastle, will eat my words if he can hack it in the Prem.

- I've heard a few excuses from scum fans about it not being full strength and a bad defence and at the end of the day although we had a strong side out, we still had our first choice left-back, goalkeeper and best player (snodgrass) and max gradel unavailable.

- BBC stats says we had 54% possession. Do I need to say anything about that?

- Last thing, a few scum fans moaning about penalty decisions. I'm not gonan debate the first one on Wellbeck - sometimes they are given and sometimes they're not - nice to see the ref not giving it. Second, the one on Owen was a foul except it was OUTSIDE the box. How anyone can say the ref was against Man Utd is unbelievable: Brown should have been sent off he could have easily had 1 red card and a few yellows in another game, Evans held beckford back when he was last man and didn't even get booked, Brown had hold of Beckford's shirt in the box and was easily a blatant penalty (but apparently you don't get penalties for holding players in the box these days). And overall I thought we played better football - Beckford's chance at the end, Becchio shold have scored his header, Johnson should have done better with his header, Snodgrass hit the post...

All in all, I don't just think we deserve praise for just going ahead and then holding on. But, I think we deserve praise because we took the game to Man Utd and caused them more problems than the futile/negative tactics of teams in the Premiership that play them at old trafford.

This was a longer rant than I thought but I didn't want to leave anything out. Anyway, hope we can beat spuds in the next round.

- Beckford is good but not prem class, and he is overrated. He does score a helluva lot of goals though
- Your midfield was week but SAF picked it, if you think hes so good dont complain about his selections. I thought that team would beat us though
- The ref was so biased to Man U for free kicks, ie giving them ones for nothing and denying us certain ones. Brown and neville were so dirty and well done howson for giving brown a black eye. I dont think any of the penaltys should have been given and we could and should have won 2-0 or 3-0
- i'm glad grayson attacked because hopefully other teams will beat them now and they wont win anything, see how much the FA cup doesnt matter to them then

 

[19-11-08]

Why is it that whenever we get beat it's because they are the first team to come and attack us. The majority of the teams attack as much as leeds did. this will most probably affect nothing.

 

[WesleyLUFC]

when youve won each of your premierships you always say its your defence that wins you matches
well id say this would inspire teams like wigan burnley hull etc to not play like wolves did.

 

[bossman]

you wasnt a strong defence, then off them starters

 

[Max]

well didnt fergie say a few weeks ago that brown was the best defender in england can someone back me up on that.

Well funnily enough, just because SAF says something I don't have to agree with it. Just because SAF say's he is, doesn't mean he is. It's my own opinion.

Really?oO)oO)

Seeing as silvestre was at united and was behind brown in the pecking order and to be honest both those two players are pretty **** (silvestre and senderos). Wes brown is a solid centre back he was marvellous in the double year and was laid off with injury most of last year and has come back and been pretty solid.

Once again it's my opinion and you've got yours, none of them facts mean anything to me, I just don't rate him.

Brown gets beat for pace by beckford, and suddenly he is awful

Once again, you fail to see it's my own opinion which isn't shared by the whole planet. I never once said he was awful, I just said I prefer other players to him. Don't try and make up rubbish.

 

[19-11-08]

yeah thats a fair point but thats more being inspired by the poorish performance and injuries. Some people seem to think that no teams attack us and when a team does and wins against us they have shown ohter clubs the way and we will be exposed as a poor side that gets by just because nobody attacks us.

It is a bit annoying sometimes max when you just state it's your opinion. it may be your opinion doesn't mean no one can disagree with it or that you're not wrong. and to be fair if you're saying what i said was fact the surely you should try and base your opinion on things like facts?

 

[bossman]

again i think your missing the point, i bever said you had to think it. i am just saying tht people are thinking he isnt very good because he was at fault. stop trying to act like we are making you beileve stuff max, it is pathetic

 

[Max]

again i think your missing the point, i bever said you had to think it. i am just saying tht people are thinking he isnt very good because he was at fault. stop trying to act like we are making you beileve stuff max, it is pathetic

How is it pathetic? It's my own opinion. Just like Lee said the other day you come up with utter rubbish and you can't have a discussion about football without trying to offend someone. Your the pathetic one you can't handle when someone put's their opinion across and you don't agree with it. I never said you were "trying to make me believe stuff", I said you were saying things that I hadn't said like Brown being "awful" when I said I preferred different players, Jesus, if your going to try and have a discussion please read carefully. Also I never said you were trying to make me think something, please point out where I said you were? I said you were making things up about what I said when what I said is right there in the text, I prefer different players. Please do get it right "bossman"

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It is a bit annoying sometimes max when you just state it's your opinion. it may be your opinion doesn't mean no one can disagree with it or that you're not wrong. and to be fair if you're saying what i said was fact the surely you should try and base your opinion on things like facts?

Well what else am I suppose to say? Everytime I say anything about a United player this happens. It's my opinion, deal with it. I base my opinion on what I think, not a bunch of facts on a page, if I don't like a player, I don't like him. It's like you probably don't like some great players, but they are still good no matter what you think, so in this case people have different opinions, sadly some people have to insult others to get their point across.

 

[bossman]

you seem to think, every comment i make it directed at you. i made a comment about brown and beckford, and you think it is me disagreeing with your opinion, seriuosly i dont live for you. and no you didnt make tht comment, your just implying it

 

[Jack]

At the end of the day, everyone hates Man U so go home and cry into your beer, you got beat by Leeds. End of story

 

[Max]

you seem to think, every comment i make it directed at you. i made a comment about brown and beckford, and you think it is me disagreeing with your opinion, seriuosly i dont live for you. and no you didnt make tht comment, your just implying it

The only thing I'm implying is that I prefer different players. You may think their **** and I may not. It's 2 different opinions. Your comment was directed at "everyone", so that includes all of us that went against Brown which was me saying I preffered a different player, just because I don't like a player doesn't mean he isn't good, it's like some people hate Ronaldo, but he is world class. I never said you were disagreeing with me, but I was trying to say that I didn't say Brown was awful. Your not going to get your head around that so let's end this here. I'm expecting you to reply to this to have the last word.

 

[Deano]

At the end of the day, everyone hates Man U so go home and cry into your beer, you got beat by Leeds. End of story

I don't hate Man Utd, Arsenal or Liverpool. I don't undrstand why so many fans hate clubs that barely concern them. The reason I dislike Chelsea is purely due to local rivalry. So many fans need to get a grip.

 

[bossman]

i am replying to try and end this and get to the bottom.

where have i ever said you need to change you opinion or should.

all you seem to do is say, it is my opinion. OKAY i get tht, i not trying to change tht.

I was simplyig passing a comment, how brown is now not awful. just like you did earlier when i sed Evans was Top notch and quality. you disagreed. this is no different.

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I don't hate Man Utd, Arsenal or Liverpool. I don't undrstand why so many fans hate clubs that barely concern them. The reason I dislike Chelsea is purely due to local rivalry. So many fans need to get a grip.

I agree with you. the only clubs i hate are liverpool and city.

kinda admire arsenals for there football. no other hates reli.

 

[Jack]

I don't hate Man Utd, Arsenal or Liverpool. I don't undrstand why so many fans hate clubs that barely concern them. The reason I dislike Chelsea is purely due to local rivalry. So many fans need to get a grip.

I was only joking pal, I dont hate anyone.. except Derby, which is like you said, for rivalry reasons.

 

[Andy]

5 minutes can't pass on this website before some kind of argument breaks out.

The thread is about the Leeds v United match not about who is better out of Brown and Senderos. If you want to argue about that take it to msn.

I have said it before Leeds deserved something out of the game for their brave defending but i thought we should have earnt at least a replay. One benefit from the result is before the Milan game we have the weekend off which is crucial as it will benefit Ferdinand who seems to be injured all of the time now.

 

[DRPEPPER]

brown is awful, god knows how he won england caps, he has a ****** haircut, he looks like a chav. and he cant defend, the one good decision steve mcclaren made as england boss was putting micah richards or luke young in for that sack of ****, awful, andrew whing could defend better than him, i agree with max id rather have silvestre than him

 

[Deano]

brown is awful, god knows how he won england caps, he has a ****** haircut, he looks like a chav. and he cant defend, the one good decision steve mcclaren made as england boss was putting micah richards or luke young in for that sack of ****, awful, andrew whing could defend better than him, i agree with max id rather have silvestre than him

Idiocy.

 

[bossman]

brown is awful, god knows how he won england caps, he has a ****** haircut, he looks like a chav. and he cant defend, the one good decision steve mcclaren made as england boss was putting micah richards or luke young in for that sack of ****, awful, andrew whing could defend better than him, i agree with max id rather have silvestre than him

Your opinion and all tht, but i am pretty sure if andrew whing was tht good, he would be playing for a prem club

5 minutes can't pass on this website before some kind of argument breaks out.

The thread is about the Leeds v United match not about who is better out of Brown and Senderos. If you want to argue about that take it to msn.

I have said it before Leeds deserved something out of the game for their brave defending but i thought we should have earnt at least a replay. One benefit from the result is before the Milan game we have the weekend off which is crucial as it will benefit Ferdinand who seems to be injured all of the time now.

This is a footballing forum, why should arguemnt/ discussions not happen

 

[Chris]

On forums you have debates. A debate is where people who disagree, maturely explain their point to the other person. An argument usually involves swearing and people being idiotic.

 

[bossman]

i think even an arguemnt is an debate reli.

both think they are right, both argue, tempers can flare, swear words happen.

but aslong as people dont get personal or be offensive it is fine