Note! - This Post Will Be Edited According To Progress
Note:
While I'm a big
fan of
Marcelo's 3-1-4-2 I have to admit that research is getting me newly excited towards football manager. Alot of the
sliders in the game since I played FM06 have always been grey and not explained clearly enough to the community. So alot of tactics haven't been created on full knowledge and there for haven't maxed out their potential. I'm now in the process experimenting with Marcelo's tactic - not because marcelo's tactic doesn't work or doesn't work good enough, but because I feel I can improve it with my knowledge. Unfortunately I have tweaked his tactic so much that it can't go as marcelo's tactic anymore and I have to open a new thread to release this tactic if it continues the way it is currently - very successful.
However Marcelo inspired me to play with his tactic in the first place and I would never have played with such a tactic if it wasn't for the
proof's that
Marcelo showed us all. I warmly
recommend Marcelo's tactic to anyone who play FM13 this is one of the
best tactics created for all teams and I think their will be a huge agreement on that.
My Barca team use a
very modified version of
marcelo's and is the one that's to far away to be marcelo's.
FC Nurenberg is slightly modified and still close enough to be Marcelo's. I will update what I did with Nurenberg in 2.division (Germany) - Huge success with a reshaped team on the cheap. I have changed the passing sliders for all players to
mixed passing individually so
slider 10. I have also changed all players except the Goalkeeper -
Creative Freedom individually to
slider 10. I'm thinking to make one last change for FC Nurenberg, but haven't done it yet. That is a Team setting -
Tempo=20 Timewaste=0. Something I believe strongly will change Marcelo's tactic for the better.
Slider Interpretation:
Timewaste you can interpret as
urgency if slider is set to
0=
very urgent.
Timewaste slider 20 is
very patient players will slow down play much more - hold up the ball much more - sometimes at the point where you wish they wouldn't especially defensive minded players defenders and defensive midfielders losing possession in dangerous positions is obviously annoying (You'll certainly need technically gifted players allround).
High Timewaste is a must in a
possession based tactic and it can be quite beautiful play around opponents penalty box if tactic is right. Chances will be less but chances will be of high quality.
Tempo dictates how attack minded the passes are.
A slow temo players will
pass backwards more and is perfect for possession style tactics (Tiki taka) - A
quick Tempo will see your players
pass forward more so in general you want the
individual passing sliders set to a longer style of play so the players positioned deeper will look for a player positioned high up on the pitch in a great attacking position. So the
individual passing sliders is
passing range how far he should look for a passing option.
Just letting you all know that I added a new manager to the game. I wanted to devote myself to this tactic 100% without switching things because I like Experimentation. The year is 2038 FC Nurenberg just got relegated from the german 1 division, so I decided to pick them. I also decided that most of the players had to go and they did I kept like 4 or 5 players out of 35-40 players. I made quite a sum of money because of 1 sale in particular a young talent that I sold to spanish outlet Real Betis for around 23 million pounds, I ofcause didn't expect I would make that sale but it happened and I could put all my focus into building the staff and the new squad.
The staff I got fully maxed out in 4 star coaches and I was pretty happy with that. The squad I decided not to go on a crazy shopping where I would buy amazing players (talents) I also decided that the squad didn't have to be full of youngsters, what I did want was players capable of playing in Marcelo's tactic example wingers that is good at dribble cross and quickness. Well because of the way I have played the game I wanted to freshen things up so I decided that all my strikers shouldn't be quick and composed like its always recommended. I wanted strong and good in the air instead with less finishing and less quickness. My initial thought towards this was if I'm getting quick normal wingers who are capable of a good cross would't it be nice if my strikers could be dangerous from the crosses in the air. My other thought was while I edited the
Attacking corners - The Defensive corners - The Attacking freekicks - The Defensive freekicks These strikers will help me defend well on deadball situations. What I'm basically trying to say is, I want to put the myth in Football manager to shame that these types of players can't work in the same way as a quick poacher (I need proof on this myself).
The last thing I wanna say is my team gel level is obiously very poor, but compared to what it could be I can't be dissatisfied I'm at good understanding. I'll be perfectly honest I believe in my own training strategy to much that I will follow those principles that I have experienced during my time with Gooaall262. When thats said its simular to the author here in this thread.
Preeseason - Focus Tactical Fluidity -
Team Cohesion - Very high - 50% - Tactics Only
Preeseason -
2 Weeks before 1st League Match -
October:
Team cohesion - very high intensity - 50% - Teamwork
If Tactical Fluidity is maxed out earlier make the switch to this then!
All Season - October-June:
Team cohesion - Hard intensity - 50% - Teamwork untill (Extremly strong understanding) Then Attacking Movement
This is my training formula with any tactic and if this was a possession tactic I would simply have teamwork all season since teamwork is what you need for possession (possession is defending)
When I have watched a few games when I have reached Extremely strong understanding I will decide whether I will continue teamwork or do as the author use attacking movement which I also like. Many things depends on my possession in the games.
I am very excited to finally have started the season knowing that I bought players that weren't as good as I could have bought, and some of them so easy to get cheap because noone wanted them. It will be a real joy knowing that I saved money and still succeeded and I honestly fully expect to succeed. The goal is max points, but I do understand if that will not happen.
I will update this post with my seasonal results images and tell you more what I think about things. I'm pretty sure that this tactic are very close to being the best by itself and by editing the setpieces it will be even better in my opinion.
General Comments/Thoughts:
I've noticed something very important in the FM13 match engine.
READ THIS! -
Targetman strikers are a
disaster and should at all cost be avoided. Their is a flaw in the match engine that annoys the **** out of me by the way - Balls in the air in front of goal is useless most often and lack alot of variety.
Also READ THIS!
After watching the 3D Engine some more I have to eat my words a little bit. What I have figured out is you'll need the correct positioning (mentality) of your tall strong man to be efficient in this role. When that is said I still think the
variety level is
poor in the 3D match engine, but not just with aerial balls. If using a targetman type it looks to me he works best in a support role with a poacher as a partner. In this way you'll be dangerous both on the ground for your quick poacher and in the air for your targetman. I still recommend a complete forward more who's extemely quick and strong mixed in with inteligence and creativeness.
1.
Poacher (
bold=
Most important - Unbold can be less)- All skills are very useful and should be maxed out in the development so a striker that possess 16+
Finishing13+ -
First touch -
Dribbling -
Offball -
Composure -
Anticipation -
Acceleration -
Agility -
Balance -
Pace
Also wanted skills: -
Strenght 13+ - Tecnique 10+ - Decisions 12+ - Passing 10+ - Creativity 10+
Very easy to
train:
Poacher schedule &
Complete Forward schedule
PPM:
Shot with power (I enjoy this one
)
2. Or get
Young targetman who already have some
strenght - The
poacher schedule will be enough but when fully developed/skills above maxed out, you can switch to
complete forward schedule. I feel the
more strenght the better but
13 is a
good target. Think hard to mark/hard to battle and strong shot.
FC Barcelona Comments:
So when I started this season (still young) I wanted to play the
Totaal Voetball tactic with
Barcelona so I bought everything quality for that tactic. I knew in my head if it wouldn't work the way I wanted it too I could easily make the switch to
Marcelo's 3142 and had that as a backup. I have tried it before but didnt have the right players for Barcelona, but now they do. 1st match after the switch
Vs. Ath. Madrid (
top team)
9-0 win proof is under
Barcelona images below. My description of the
perfect strikers in the game is
above under
general comments. I didn't edit the setpieces and I'm not going to. I
edited the
setpieces now
so it benefits my 2 best headers and its working sweet!. Here's a screenshot of my fixtures before I started changing Marcelo's tactic - in the league only 4 goals conceeded.
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I will
close my progress with
Barcelona in this
thread because it has now become unrelated to Marcelo's tactic, but I will continue it in another thread when I'm satisfied with how my new tactic is behaving - This tactic I'm in the progress of creating is ofcause partially inspired by Marcelo since it was his tactic that I changed. Alot of individual instructions have been changed to much. Alot of sliders have been changed to much and I feel it has nothing to do with the original Marcelo tactic. Its gonna be fast its gonna be rich with goals its gonna be solid in defence its gonna be a great away tactic and even greater home tactic. I will let you know when I'm ready to share it. I will
keep updating the
Nurenberg progress with the
slightly modified Marcelo.
FC Nurenberg Comments:
Nurenberg 6 played 6 wins - Target man strikers=
Fail Blog!
Strikers working better they have become a little quicker and more composed.
Remember I
reshaped the team -
team gel level is at
good understanding
Nurenberg has progressed to the
quarter finals of the
German national cup.
Big achievement being a cheap 2.division team.
Nurenberg played 19 matches 16 wins 3 draws in the
german 2.Division with
cheap players. Look at the Nurenberg images a little below this!. I'm very happy with the progress. I will keep updating more so you can follow the progress of Nurenberg further
Upcoming Images FC Barcelona:
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Upcoming Images FC Nurenberg:
Over Half a season
19/34 matches completed -
screenshot
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Cheers and wish me luck - I hope you will enjoy and take advantage of my thoughts and analyzis
Ps.
My
Nurenberg team is having lots of success and I decided to adapt this tactic to
FC Barcelona as well.
