If your playing as Fulham and have it at around a goal a game that will be good enough if the attack is still as good.
Mr Houghs 4-1-2-3 Final Unbeaten
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If your playing as Fulham and have it at around a goal a game that will be good enough if the attack is still as good.
it was slightly over a goal a game, Attack was like 2 a game though.
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Not quite ready yet, Hopefully soon
:wub:Had a decent start with Fulham using "Dave best" we have conceded 14 goals in just 8 games(scored 13) but only because we let 5 in against Chelsea and then this against Liverpool........
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This is why i'll never buy another FM, just too many games like the above, unless of course SI FINALLY manage to sort the game out, but i cant see it, its still selling so why should they bother?
Probably just add a few more pointless features that dont work anyway.
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Very next game against Arsenal, semi injured Van Persie(56% fitness) takes on the whole back four to equalise, before Bendtner with his back to goal from 35 yards, pops one in the top corner.
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This is why i'll never buy another FM, just too many games like the above, unless of course SI FINALLY manage to sort the game out, but i cant see it, its still selling so why should they bother?
Probably just add a few more pointless features that dont work anyway.
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Very next game against Arsenal, semi injured Van Persie(56% fitness) takes on the whole back four to equalise, before Bendtner with his back to goal from 35 yards, pops one in the top corner.
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Hi Mr. Hough,
I tried this tactic with my Hyde FC against Portsmouth away in the Championship and I got to say I got a rearguard action. I won 7-3 coming back from going down 0-2 in the first 20 minutes. Although I did tweak a little bit. I played target man striker and defensive style with counterattack and wide width and corners were set to penalty box. This is by far the best tactic for counter attack away against strong teams. I appreciate you providing this nike defence + attack tactic for us. I have attached the replay of the match in the following link (Sorry my computer has a problem with screenshots)
http://www.mediafire.com/?dnaq85a0egdt4ar
I tried this tactic with my Hyde FC against Portsmouth away in the Championship and I got to say I got a rearguard action. I won 7-3 coming back from going down 0-2 in the first 20 minutes. Although I did tweak a little bit. I played target man striker and defensive style with counterattack and wide width and corners were set to penalty box. This is by far the best tactic for counter attack away against strong teams. I appreciate you providing this nike defence + attack tactic for us. I have attached the replay of the match in the following link (Sorry my computer has a problem with screenshots)
http://www.mediafire.com/?dnaq85a0egdt4ar
What an unimaginative piece of **** FM is, after those games i showed earlier we have since had the following results.
Away to A Villa - draw 2-2 - They have 2ccc's we have 4 ccc's, Villa score in the last minute.
Away to Bolton - loss 2-1 - They have 2 ccc's we have 4 ccc's, Bolton score twice in injury time.
Home to Everton - win 2-1 - We have 7 cc's they have 2 ccc's, We manage to struggle to a 2-1 win.
Away to Spurs - loss 3-1 - Up until the 85th minute they have 1 ccc we have 4 ccc's and its 1-1, we end up losing 3-1.
Overall we scored 6 goals from 19 ccc's and concede 8 goals from 9 ccc's.
Away to A Villa - draw 2-2 - They have 2ccc's we have 4 ccc's, Villa score in the last minute.
Away to Bolton - loss 2-1 - They have 2 ccc's we have 4 ccc's, Bolton score twice in injury time.
Home to Everton - win 2-1 - We have 7 cc's they have 2 ccc's, We manage to struggle to a 2-1 win.
Away to Spurs - loss 3-1 - Up until the 85th minute they have 1 ccc we have 4 ccc's and its 1-1, we end up losing 3-1.
Overall we scored 6 goals from 19 ccc's and concede 8 goals from 9 ccc's.
Hi just wanted to give you my feedback on your tactic and I think its really good. Sometimes the defence is a litle shaky specialy in fast counter attacks by wingers but other than that I can't really find anything bad. I got 4th place with Olhanense in the Portuguese Main League, a team that should have played for the lower positions. And in the second season I went to a Udinese that almost went down first season and with a couple signings ended up winning the League and the Cup with amazing football displays.
Here are a couple pics from the 2nd season in Udinese.
Here are a couple pics from the 2nd season in Udinese.
Not aloud to moan about the game anymore, so i will just post the screenshot...
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Thats about the 7th or 8th time this season!
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Thats about the 7th or 8th time this season!
I think you're officially the unluckiest person that plays FM.. This kinda stuff doesnt happen to anyone else.
It does mate, we're just not allowed to talk about it, i've been banned from the main 3 FM Forums for nothing more than posting what i have here and i've already had a warning about such posts on this Forum so there you go.
Generaly most people dont want to hear what is really wrong with the game, they bury their heads in the sand because they dont want to believe that the game could be rigged or that when it works out results, it does'nt do so in a fashion that reflects the game of football and how it is played.
As for SI, well why do you think they dont want people pointing out blatant issues within the game? if it ever came out that everything i posted was true, then they would be ridiculed and would lose a large amount of their followers.
Anyway, sorry to go off topic, the winger tactic i've been using has been great, i love it, thanks MrHough!
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I don't think it's good that you get banned for posting your opinion, It's like saying "I completly love this game it's the best version ever and the best game ever, SI are complete genius's for making a game that is flawless", Now would that guy get banned for saying how good the game is, No not at all but when someone says bad things which is entirely there opinion there get in trouble.
It's stupid, People should be allowed to post there opinions as long as they don't swear or do anything like that.
It's stupid, People should be allowed to post there opinions as long as they don't swear or do anything like that.
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Thats about the 7th or 8th time this season!
Lmao that's ridiculous, you're just unlucky :a. Better quality players will soon see this problem sorted out mate
Hey Dave,
Decided to play the 2nd season with Fulham and got off to a great start after a slender 1-0 defeat against Liverpool in the first game.
Suddenly though, i'm having all kinds of problems at Home? in our last 3 Home games we have lost 3-0 against West Brom, drew 2-2 with Sunderland and lost 3-2 against Boro after being 2-0 up???
Unbelievably, Away from home we have beaten Chelsea, Everton and Burnley in our last three games and had previous draws against Man City and Arsenal.
Our results at home now stand at W 4 D 1 L 3 and away W 4 D 2 L 1, i just dont get it? what makes it ten times worse is that EVERY goal is down to some kind of unforced error, my defender will just refuse to move and the opposing player just walks the ball in???
Did you see any of this?
As its at home i'm struggling, would you reccomend pitch dimension settings, i think i have mine set to the middle pitch size.
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Great start to season 3 after finishing 5th in season 2.
After 11 games we were W 7 D 3 L 1 and joint top.
Last 3 games
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Nothin much wrong with the Arsenal game, except they score in the 95th minute when there was only supposed to be 94 and that as usual both goals conceded were errors.
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Thats 4 draws in a row now and we are W 7 D 7 L 1 but could easily be 5 points clear at the yop of the EPL, two of the three were defensive errors and the other a scorcher from a striker who had scored 2 in 16 prior to the game and had doubled his tally after it.
As you can see in most of those games, almost every shot on target is a goal.
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Injury time goal for Man Utd and have 2 great chances to their 1 against Chelsea until yet another schoolboy error gives em their 2nd.
3 points out of 15 and all 5 we COULD have won, i'd have found 7 points acceptable but 3 FFS.
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lol, thats me about done with this pathetic game.
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How did the latest version pan out Dave?
Decided to play the 2nd season with Fulham and got off to a great start after a slender 1-0 defeat against Liverpool in the first game.
Suddenly though, i'm having all kinds of problems at Home? in our last 3 Home games we have lost 3-0 against West Brom, drew 2-2 with Sunderland and lost 3-2 against Boro after being 2-0 up???
Unbelievably, Away from home we have beaten Chelsea, Everton and Burnley in our last three games and had previous draws against Man City and Arsenal.
Our results at home now stand at W 4 D 1 L 3 and away W 4 D 2 L 1, i just dont get it? what makes it ten times worse is that EVERY goal is down to some kind of unforced error, my defender will just refuse to move and the opposing player just walks the ball in???
Did you see any of this?
As its at home i'm struggling, would you reccomend pitch dimension settings, i think i have mine set to the middle pitch size.
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Great start to season 3 after finishing 5th in season 2.
After 11 games we were W 7 D 3 L 1 and joint top.
Last 3 games
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Nothin much wrong with the Arsenal game, except they score in the 95th minute when there was only supposed to be 94 and that as usual both goals conceded were errors.
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Thats 4 draws in a row now and we are W 7 D 7 L 1 but could easily be 5 points clear at the yop of the EPL, two of the three were defensive errors and the other a scorcher from a striker who had scored 2 in 16 prior to the game and had doubled his tally after it.
As you can see in most of those games, almost every shot on target is a goal.
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Injury time goal for Man Utd and have 2 great chances to their 1 against Chelsea until yet another schoolboy error gives em their 2nd.
3 points out of 15 and all 5 we COULD have won, i'd have found 7 points acceptable but 3 FFS.
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lol, thats me about done with this pathetic game.
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How did the latest version pan out Dave?
Defence
As many people seem to have said the biggest problem with the tactic at the moment is the shaky defence. I have an excellent defence yet am throwing some games away due to being leaky (still scoring a lot but sometimes can't cover how leaky the defence is). However you have said you are working on the leaky defence so I'll leave that.
On the plus side it has allowed me to take Bath City (newly promoted to BSP this year from BSS) to the premiership and contending for the title in 7 short years.
The only things that bug me are how I should tweak it protect a lead especially a 1-0 lead because that has been the biggest loss of points for me drawing 1-1 from a late concession despite keep defenders replaced and not exhausted?
And is everyone sure that we should use the assistant manager's suggested OI? (Good tactical knowledge)?
Any help appreciated
As many people seem to have said the biggest problem with the tactic at the moment is the shaky defence. I have an excellent defence yet am throwing some games away due to being leaky (still scoring a lot but sometimes can't cover how leaky the defence is). However you have said you are working on the leaky defence so I'll leave that.
On the plus side it has allowed me to take Bath City (newly promoted to BSP this year from BSS) to the premiership and contending for the title in 7 short years.
The only things that bug me are how I should tweak it protect a lead especially a 1-0 lead because that has been the biggest loss of points for me drawing 1-1 from a late concession despite keep defenders replaced and not exhausted?
And is everyone sure that we should use the assistant manager's suggested OI? (Good tactical knowledge)?
Any help appreciated
As i'd said, i was ready for jackin it in, then we got a couple of results and that started off a brilliant winning run, we finally started taking our chances and the opposition were rarely making any, we even started keeping clean sheets, then suddenly, just as before, our form inexplicably nosedives, our strikers are missing sitters and our opposition are scoring with literally ANY shot on target.
Heres a rundown of our recent results...
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Suddenly we stopped creating as many great chances and you can see why, there are a couple of reasons.
1. The player in possesion instead of playing the easy through ball, inexplicably plays the ball to a marked plaer.
2. When my striker does receive a beautifully weighted through ball, it cannons of his foot and straight back to the opposing keeper.
I just cannot believe more people dont see this game for what it is???
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Suddenly we stopped creating as many great chances and you can see why, there are a couple of reasons.
1. The player in possesion instead of playing the easy through ball, inexplicably plays the ball to a marked plaer.
2. When my striker does receive a beautifully weighted through ball, it cannons of his foot and straight back to the opposing keeper.
I just cannot believe more people dont see this game for what it is???
Well, I decided to use Mr Houghs 4-1-2-3 when I started the 4th season in game, with Leeds. In the first 3 seasons I used my own tactics (first season: won Coca-Cola 1), or JP Woody tactics (4-1-2-1-2) & Dan's tactics (4-1-2-3 - control and attacking, by rotation), with some tweaks (second season: won Championship; third season: placed 12th in Premier League). But when I started the 4th season I was buying some players to enforce a 4-1-2-3, and after that I said let's see how Mr Houghs tactics are working. And they worked pretty well: after 22 matches, I am second placed in Premier League, and with not such a great team (Media prediction: 15th). Never replayed a match, just wanted to see how far my boys can go with this tactic. I am not at home now, so I can't post screenshots ( I can do it in the evening), but here is my team:
GK: Areola (Guilherme)
DL: A. Smith (Botelho)
DR: D. Gray (+ a regen)
DC: Botia, Godin (McManus + a regen)
DMC: Zuculini (Gunnarsson + a regen)
MC: Shelvey, Bernardo (Howson, Mellis)
ST: Beckford, Nsue, Yildirim (Sondgrass, Prosenik)
So, if you have a pacey strong defence, a reliable middle and quick strikers, you can achieve very good results. Man Utd and Man City have incredible players in my game, and also other teams are very strong in Premier League, stronger than me anyway, but, even if I concede sometimes to much, I still score more in most cases (I have only 4 defeats in 22 league games). Will post some screenshots later, but what can I say about Mr Houghs tactics is this: it works incredible, but only when you know exactly what players you should play in every position (of course, depending on what transfer funds you have - at the start of 4th season I had for example 24 millions, wich helped me bring in Botia and Zuculini, to boost the defence). Anyways, great tactic Sir Mr Houghs, cheers!
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Edit: I attached some screenshots (the regen players are: Beranek, Benli and Wint).
Oh, I forgot: I also got the job to manage England U21, I attached a screenshot with my results so far (using the same tactic).
GK: Areola (Guilherme)
DL: A. Smith (Botelho)
DR: D. Gray (+ a regen)
DC: Botia, Godin (McManus + a regen)
DMC: Zuculini (Gunnarsson + a regen)
MC: Shelvey, Bernardo (Howson, Mellis)
ST: Beckford, Nsue, Yildirim (Sondgrass, Prosenik)
So, if you have a pacey strong defence, a reliable middle and quick strikers, you can achieve very good results. Man Utd and Man City have incredible players in my game, and also other teams are very strong in Premier League, stronger than me anyway, but, even if I concede sometimes to much, I still score more in most cases (I have only 4 defeats in 22 league games). Will post some screenshots later, but what can I say about Mr Houghs tactics is this: it works incredible, but only when you know exactly what players you should play in every position (of course, depending on what transfer funds you have - at the start of 4th season I had for example 24 millions, wich helped me bring in Botia and Zuculini, to boost the defence). Anyways, great tactic Sir Mr Houghs, cheers!
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Edit: I attached some screenshots (the regen players are: Beranek, Benli and Wint).
Oh, I forgot: I also got the job to manage England U21, I attached a screenshot with my results so far (using the same tactic).
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Wow, this game dont half kick you in the bollocks.
Played Arsenal in the Charity Shield and deservedly won 2-1, next game up is Home to Chelsea and in them 6 days between games 7 players went on int duty and 4 got injured.
We get dicked 4-1 and have Anderlecht next in a CL qualifier still short 11 players, heres the HT score...
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We ended up losing 3-2 after finishing with 8 ccc's to their 3.
Next up Boro and still those players missing, but at least the first 11 are all first teamers, although every sub is a reserve.
At Half Time...
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Drew with boro ft despite annihilating them, lost 2-1 in away leg CL qual and just had this against Birmingham at half time...
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Played Arsenal in the Charity Shield and deservedly won 2-1, next game up is Home to Chelsea and in them 6 days between games 7 players went on int duty and 4 got injured.
We get dicked 4-1 and have Anderlecht next in a CL qualifier still short 11 players, heres the HT score...
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We ended up losing 3-2 after finishing with 8 ccc's to their 3.
Next up Boro and still those players missing, but at least the first 11 are all first teamers, although every sub is a reserve.
At Half Time...
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Drew with boro ft despite annihilating them, lost 2-1 in away leg CL qual and just had this against Birmingham at half time...
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I only conceded 18 goals in 38 games with Chelsea, i know it was Chelsea, but that is still solid.
I dont blame the tactic Dave(may i call you Dave?) we were promised that by watching matches in FM you would be able to discern by the goals you concede what is wrong with your defence, plus! we are told that individual errors are a cause of a players low concentration, well in my Fulham game i had purchased quality defenders with at least 15 concentration, yet the schoolboy errors were still accounting for 90 of goals conceded? if you do the math it just does'nt add up.
I have tried literally hundreds of tactics and tactic sets, as well as trying to create my own amd one thing is clear, the AI always has the advantage.