My Man Utd in FM 2010 Patch 10.3

[Hancuryahudi]

ive tried your tactic for my man u team and its working brilliant for me villa is scoring for fun

That is really good mate. This is what I want, a tactic working well. Keep going mate. By the way which tactic do you used?

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Cheers Hanc, if I win the netgame I'll dedicate it to you

Wow..you was influenced me to work harder to create a good tactic that was improve from previous. Thanks Max..I really appreciate that. By the way, I really likes your defensive thread. It helps a lots. Good job Max.

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Hancuryahudi,

Hi, in ur second tactic is great.
So i have used it with my team and i have changed the team instructions for my team.
I have changed the passing to shorter passing.
And i have changed the marking to man marking.
And now it works better for me and my Feyenoord team.
Maybe u can change it for your Man Utd team so it works better.
Pic will follow soon

This is what I want and I have waiting a so long about the comment to make a tactic much better. Thanks jurgen. You are doing a great job. Keep going and let me know your progress. Now, it start to interesting for me. Of course I likes yours suggestion

 

[iamfengxiao]

v1 is so far so good, lost only 1-2 games.

I tried short passing, but didnt work that well with man utd team.

 

[footballoholic]

Is it essential to have the wingers role as inside forward coz i only have Zhirkov as left winger and he doesnt play on right... also there is a transfer ban

 

[jurgen]

Hi footballoholic,

Try Capel or Naves from Sevilla for your winger position the are doing a fine job with my feyenoord team many assists from them for my strikers.
And the midfield positions are crucial, i have Fabregas and moutinho.
Why dont u use Kalou as right winger he can do a great job for as u retrain him.
I will post pic tonight so u can see how my team looks like.

 

[iamfengxiao]

Is it essential to have the wingers role as inside forward coz i only have Zhirkov as left winger and he doesnt play on right... also there is a transfer ban

most of my assits comes from the wingers, so they are pretty important!

 

[Hancuryahudi]

v1, where did you place your villa, on the right or left? beacause i placed villa on the right and dzeko on the left and dzeko did most of the scoring

my v1 test run

can you post your lineup for your v1 too? its strange my villa is not scoring but assisting most of the goals

Villa play in right position. He scores a lots for me in last 2 seasons. Now, his scoring is decreased in league..But still top three goal scorer this season. Here you go.

 

[Max]

Just tried this with United as a warm up for the net game. Beat Liverpool 4-1 at home opening game, game crashed though so I can't supply any screenshots :'( Hopefully you can all just take my word that this tactic owns ^^)

 

[Jack Fulham]

I shall give this tactic a go once I get the game, I never tried your 09 one but I did use the corner tactic you created, however, your tactic is highly rated throughout the website so I give it a go, do they work with mid-table sides though?

 

[sadred]

54 apps 67 goals just amazing

 

[Hancuryahudi]

Hancuryahudi, could u post what attributes u assosiate to be important for each postion and how u decide who to play as the deep lying forward etc

Ok. These is my opinion and my philosophy.
1. I likely to have more fast player at every area.
2. All of my player need to have a good passing and creativity.
3. One of them at least have a great long shot.
4. For the defense, they must have a great jumping and heading.

These factors will bring successful for your team. Now we go to the each position.

1. Goalkeeper
- I have Akinfeev and he is doing awesome job for me. (H) The important stat for the GK are: Handling, Reflexes, One on Ones, Jumping, Concentration, Decisions, Concentration and Positioning.

2. Defender Center
- I have Vidic, Ferdinand, Evans and Badstuber. These guy have a great stat as a defender that I need. The important stat for the DC are: Marking, Tackling, Heading, Jumping, Concentration, Positioning and Strength. If they have these good stat, they can scores too.

3. Fullback or Wingback
- I have Evra, Fabio and Rafael. The important stat for the FB/WB are: Acceleration, Crossing, Dribbling, Positioning, Pace, Tackling and Marking. I likely to use wing back to support the winger when we launch the attack. They helped me a lot.

4. Box-to-Box Midfielder
- I have Fletcher, Annan and Badstuber. Their role is to help attack and defense at the same times. So they need to have the stats of Defensive Midfielder and Attacking Midfielder but I suggest they have more likely as a DM. The important stat for the Box-to-Box is: Marking, Tackling, Passing, Long shots, Stamina, Strength, Work rate, Decisions, Acceleration and Determination. You will have more gifted if he has a good in long shot because you can set him to often long shots like Tactic Creator have set it. If not, just leave it sometimes like I do to Fletcher.

5. Advanced Playmaker
- I have Rafael van der Vaart and Anderson. This guy is one of the important role in the team to attacking. He is a likely as a Roaming Playmaker. This guy will bring the ball forward with their intelligence and creativity and passing to the forward. Also, I suggest to you to have a Advanced Playmaker with a good long shots. The important stat for the AP is: Flair, Decisions, Passing, Creativity, Off the ball, Technique, Dribbling, Acceleration, Anticipation and First Touch.

6. Winger/Inside Forward
- I have Ribery, Sanchez, Cassano, Tosic and Valencia. These roles is important when we are looking to attack. They need to be fast and pacey winger to destroy the opponent fullback. I likely to put them as a Inside Forward to cut inside. They will work well if they play in opposition of their foot. The important stat for the Winger are: Acceleration, Pace, Dribbling, Crossing, Technique, Passing, Creativity, Decisions and Flair.

7. Deep Lying Forward
- I have Rooney. He is done a good job for me. He has a finishing, passing, creativity. teamwork and faster. One of the main role of DLF is to be link between midfield and his partner forward. He also have a preferred moves like "Come Deep To Get The Ball". With this move, he can dropped deep to get the ball and passing to the higher pitch of his attacking partner. The important stat for the DLF are: Finishing, First Touch, Anticipation, Off the ball, Passing, Creativity, Composure and Technique. Rooney is a great for DLF.

8. Complete Forward
- I have Villa and he is my best player. Also this type player is a Goal Machine. He can scores, assist, dribble, cross, and what the important is the CF can do everything on his own. He can help to get the ball from deep and also can run through the ball to scores. I also train Villa to Run With Ball Through Center because I need to see him to run with ball by dribbling pass the opponent. The important stat for the CF is: Acceleration, Dribbling, Finishing, First Touch, Off the ball, Pace, Decisions, Passing, Creativity, Composure, Anticipation, Heading, Jumping, Strength, Determination and Technique. Although Villa not good in jumping and heading but he is a one of the Complete Forward in the game. He also can shot form long range because of his stat. And of course he is a monster.

I hope this little guide will help you all. Thanks for your reading. ^^)

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v1 is so far so good, lost only 1-2 games.

I tried short passing, but didnt work that well with man utd team.

That's good mate. Keep going. Maybe..I have tried it but seems it's not going well for me. Maybe it will work if we tweaked the philosophy.

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Just tried this with United as a warm up for the net game. Beat Liverpool 4-1 at home opening game, game crashed though so I can't supply any screenshots :'( Hopefully you can all just take my word that this tactic owns ^^)

Oh no..this a great result mate. I have only beat Liverpool by 3-0 and it is the highest scoring when I play against them. Nevermind..I trust on you Max. If you have an idea how to improved a tactic, just let me know and thanks for you because try my tactic. Hope you win the trophy on your network game. ^^)

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I shall give this tactic a go once I get the game, I never tried your 09 one but I did use the corner tactic you created, however, your tactic is highly rated throughout the website so I give it a go, do they work with mid-table sides though?

Thanks Jack. I'm glad because you want to try my tactic. Hope it will work for you. I've never try with the middle team. But, in my opinion if the you have a right player, a tactic will work well. Any suggestion about a tactic, just let me know because I still need to tweaked a tactic. 8-|

 

[Max]

Haven't found anything wrong with this yet, but trying to concentrate on each position throughout each game to see if there is anything to improve

 

[Hancuryahudi]

Haven't found anything wrong with this yet, but trying to concentrate on each position throughout each game to see if there is anything to improve

Sounds good Max. Yeah, you need to do it. Maybe you can increased the goal scoring and decreased to concede the goals..By the way, I'm trying to make a tactic as good as 09. ^^)

 

[Max]

Sounds good Max. Yeah, you need to do it. Maybe you can increased the goal scoring and decreased to concede the goals..By the way, I'm trying to make a tactic as good as 09. ^^)

Yeah, I'm mostly trying to look for gaps in the defence etc, I think it scores enough goals tbh.

 

[Hancuryahudi]

Yeah, I'm mostly trying to look for gaps in the defence etc, I think it scores enough goals tbh.

That's what I'm looking for. To reduce the gap between midfield and defense line. And also to reduce the gap between midfield and forward. All of them need to be link each other so we can break the opposition players and launch counter attack.

 

[Max]

That's what I'm looking for. To reduce the gap between midfield and defense line. And also to reduce the gap between midfield and forward. All of them need to be link each other so we can break the opposition players and launch counter attack.

We're just starting the net game now. Put in bids for Annan, Van Der Vaart, Villa, Silva and Sanchez ^^) Hopefully I can get atleast Villa, Silva, Sanchez and Van Der Vaart.

 

[iamfengxiao]

Ok. These is my opinion and my philosophy.
1. I likely to have more fast player at every area.
2. All of my player need to have a good passing and creativity.
3. One of them at least have a great long shot.
4. For the defense, they must have a great jumping and heading.

These factors will bring successful for your team. Now we go to the each position.

1. Goalkeeper
- I have Akinfeev and he is doing awesome job for me. (H) The important stat for the GK are: Handling, Reflexes, One on Ones, Jumping, Concentration, Decisions, Concentration and Positioning.

2. Defender Center
- I have Vidic, Ferdinand, Evans and Badstuber. These guy have a great stat as a defender that I need. The important stat for the DC are: Marking, Tackling, Heading, Jumping, Concentration, Positioning and Strength. If they have these good stat, they can scores too.

3. Fullback or Wingback
- I have Evra, Fabio and Rafael. The important stat for the FB/WB are: Acceleration, Crossing, Dribbling, Positioning, Pace, Tackling and Marking. I likely to use wing back to support the winger when we launch the attack. They helped me a lot.

4. Box-to-Box Midfielder
- I have Fletcher, Annan and Badstuber. Their role is to help attack and defense at the same times. So they need to have the stats of Defensive Midfielder and Attacking Midfielder but I suggest they have more likely as a DM. The important stat for the Box-to-Box is: Marking, Tackling, Passing, Long shots, Stamina, Strength, Work rate, Decisions, Acceleration and Determination. You will have more gifted if he has a good in long shot because you can set him to often long shots like Tactic Creator have set it. If not, just leave it sometimes like I do to Fletcher.

5. Advanced Playmaker
- I have Rafael van der Vaart and Anderson. This guy is one of the important role in the team to attacking. He is a likely as a Roaming Playmaker. This guy will bring the ball forward with their intelligence and creativity and passing to the forward. Also, I suggest to you to have a Advanced Playmaker with a good long shots. The important stat for the AP is: Flair, Decisions, Passing, Creativity, Off the ball, Technique, Dribbling, Acceleration, Anticipation and First Touch.

6. Winger/Inside Forward
- I have Ribery, Sanchez, Cassano, Tosic and Valencia. These roles is important when we are looking to attack. They need to be fast and pacey winger to destroy the opponent fullback. I likely to put them as a Inside Forward to cut inside. They will work well if they play in opposition of their foot. The important stat for the Winger are: Acceleration, Pace, Dribbling, Crossing, Technique, Passing, Creativity, Decisions and Flair.

7. Deep Lying Forward
- I have Rooney. He is done a good job for me. He has a finishing, passing, creativity. teamwork and faster. One of the main role of DLF is to be link between midfield and his partner forward. He also have a preferred moves like "Come Deep To Get The Ball". With this move, he can dropped deep to get the ball and passing to the higher pitch of his attacking partner. The important stat for the DLF are: Finishing, First Touch, Anticipation, Off the ball, Passing, Creativity, Composure and Technique. Rooney is a great for DLF.

8. Complete Forward
- I have Villa and he is my best player. Also this type player is a Goal Machine. He can scores, assist, dribble, cross, and what the important is the CF can do everything on his own. He can help to get the ball from deep and also can run through the ball to scores. I also train Villa to Run With Ball Through Center because I need to see him to run with ball by dribbling pass the opponent. The important stat for the CF is: Acceleration, Dribbling, Finishing, First Touch, Off the ball, Pace, Decisions, Passing, Creativity, Composure, Anticipation, Heading, Jumping, Strength, Determination and Technique. Although Villa not good in jumping and heading but he is a one of the Complete Forward in the game. He also can shot form long range because of his stat. And of course he is a monster.

I hope this little guide will help you all. Thanks for your reading. ^^)

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That's good mate. Keep going. Maybe..I have tried it but seems it's not going well for me. Maybe it will work if we tweaked the philosophy.

---------- Post added at 05:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:04 PM ----------



Oh no..this a great result mate. I have only beat Liverpool by 3-0 and it is the highest scoring when I play against them. Nevermind..I trust on you Max. If you have an idea how to improved a tactic, just let me know and thanks for you because try my tactic. Hope you win the trophy on your network game. ^^)

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Thanks Jack. I'm glad because you want to try my tactic. Hope it will work for you. I've never try with the middle team. But, in my opinion if the you have a right player, a tactic will work well. Any suggestion about a tactic, just let me know because I still need to tweaked a tactic. 8-|

Good Job very comprehensive!

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hanc this is working for me,you might want to include in your next version too

This is what i have tryed found it on the sports interactive website,good luck

Aim: Far Post
Inswinging: left footers on right corners and right footers on left corners.

GK: Default
DL: Stay Back
DR: Stay Back
DC: Attack Far (this is the primary goalscorer from corners so choose wisely)
DC Attack Near
MC: Lurk outside area
MC: Challenge 'Keeper
ML: Attack ball from deep
MR: Attack ball from deep
ST: Near post flick on
ST: Near post flick on

The primary goalscoring DC needs to have good heading, jumping, bravery, strength and anticipation which is why Phillippe Mexes has been so prolific this season for me, including a hatrick! From what i've read, height and weight don't matter in FM currently, so don't be tempted just to stick a tall guy on the Attack Far Post. If he's not brave and strong, he'll get outmuscled by the guy marking him.

Obviously it doesn't matter what formation you play, as long as the instructions match. Give it a few months and see if theres any difference, don't give up after 1 game

These instructions help, now my defenders at least miss headers and sometimes score them!
Thanks alot!

 

[KIAStumpy]

just started to try your tactics with manu bought players like you apart from wingers no money left
just played atletico madrid at home
And its seems there having lots of long shots at goal scored with two long range efforts
Anyone know how to lmt them as i see there going to kill me in the prem
Tweeked the defence a bit and corners Would like someone to give me a idea on how to tweek the shot stoping plz thanks

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just started to try your tactics with manu bought players like you apart from wingers no money left
just played atletico madrid at home
And its seems there having lots of long shots at goal scored with two long range efforts
Anyone know how to lmt them as i see there going to kill me in the prem
Tweeked the defence a bit and corners Would like someone to give me a idea on how to tweek the shot stoping plz thanks

 

[picosq]

thanks for this its great just what i needed, what about the two defenders as u have one winning the ball and the other covering how do u decide who does this does it just depend on attributes, so for your wingers you would in ur man united team have giggs on the right because he cuts in on his left foot. have u tried putting them as wingers does it make a difference. can i ask why u have one full back as wing bk instruction as one as full back.

 

[iamfengxiao]

just started to try your tactics with manu bought players like you apart from wingers no money left
just played atletico madrid at home
And its seems there having lots of long shots at goal scored with two long range efforts
Anyone know how to lmt them as i see there going to kill me in the prem
Tweeked the defence a bit and corners Would like someone to give me a idea on how to tweek the shot stoping plz thanks

---------- Post added at 01:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:06 PM ----------

just started to try your tactics with manu bought players like you apart from wingers no money left
just played atletico madrid at home
And its seems there having lots of long shots at goal scored with two long range efforts
Anyone know how to lmt them as i see there going to kill me in the prem
Tweeked the defence a bit and corners Would like someone to give me a idea on how to tweek the shot stoping plz thanks

defender agression and bravery are important.

 

[chapman7]

defender agression and bravery are important.

how does that answer the question lol

you need to go to player instructions if i remember right there should be a bar between never and alot

hope this helps