I did see a quote from an SI dev who was explaining that the game did compute all information before a game kicked off and used that to provide the outcome. Someone did point out that this could sometimes make it difficult for player input during a game to affect the outcome. If what that dev said is true you could have a point I guess?I hate how twisted and biased this f**king game is! I can play the last 10 games playing a good passing game with solid tackling then in a crunch CL game my team forgets how to pass and wont tackle anyone! Th main reason I think it is biased is how many mistakes my team will make in one game to gift them just enough goals to knock me out! Seriously what is the point in setting up your team to play in a certain way only for your players to hand the game to the opposition making constantly stupid decisions that they have shown no signs of in the previous games! I have said it before and I stick by it the game is decided before you even kick off! Some games no matter how you set up for you will lose regardless of what you do...
I did see a quote from an SI dev who was explaining that the game did compute all information before a game kicked off and used that to provide the outcome. Someone did point out that this could sometimes make it difficult for player input during a game to affect the outcome. If what that dev said is true you could have a point I guess?
But it wouldn't lead to any bias incase, since the ME cant tell the difference.
BS! Player gets f***ed all the time! If you control the game you maybe win 7 or 8 times out of 10 but when the opposiotion controls it wins 9/10!
Actually its true. The Match cannot tell the difference between inputs, Its just a giant and incredibly sophisiticated "calculator" with no slant to either side.
While this is obvious, the number of times you see your players making glaringly stupid mistakes outnumbers the AI players making glaringly stupid mistakes at least 2-1 in my experience and I don't think you can point to tactics as the issue here. It could be team talks (Because if you think about it the AI giving the team talks knows exactly how to get the best result out of every one of the players it is giving the team talk to) but I don't think a poor team talk will lead to my GK making passes straight to the opposition striker for a CCC and goal.
It is just very frustrating when your team makes a stupid mistake to go down 1-0 and then dominates the rest of the game only to come out of the game with a 1-1 draw, and then when you scold the player for his mistake they don't even know what you are talking about.
Not blaming the Match Engine, but it seems there is an inherent bias because the match engine and the opposition team and your own players are being run by the same AI. The AI knows instantly how to and when to react to everything that you can throw at them, the AI know exactly what the players want to hear to fire them up.
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How on earth does being limited tactically amount to passing the ball straight to the opposition striker. It is not like the GK is overwhelmed by choices. And to be honest, hitting a soft pass straight at the feet of the opposition should not be an option.
But let me get this straight.
If you specifiy what you want a player to do, and limit their choices your team will make less mistakes and likely any up with more success?
This slant or bias simply doesn't exist in the game. I've watch their keeper kick it to my forward, shake my head, and promptly go one up.
But my tactical decisions cannot be directly linked to my players making mistakes otherwise there is an inherent bias in the match enginge that makes the AI less mistake prone. (Even if it gives me an inherent advantage of more options)
I just fail to see how me having more tactical options than the AI (Undeniable) can lead to my players making more mistakes than the opposition. The two things should be mutually exclusive. The "mistakes" should be made by players who have low composure and decisions ratings. The kind of players who will be prone to mistakes regardless of tactical instructions. Just like someone who has 20 decisions and 20 composure at the back should not panic under pressure, again regardless of tactical instructions.
I have seen the same, I am not talking about the AI not making mistakes, because they do, it is more about the quantity of these mistakes, who they are being made by, and why they are being made. They seem to be completely out of the players control, at least from what you are saying.
Would love to have some kind of techincal manual released with the game to explain some of these things too.
Not blaming the Match Engine, but it seems there is an inherent bias because the match engine and the opposition team and your own players are being run by the same AI. The AI knows instantly how to and when to react to everything that you can throw at them, the AI know exactly what the players want to hear to fire them up.
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This quote has to be true, surely!
I just did a little experiment. My next fixture was against the team at the bottom of the league, on just 3 points. All their morale was poor or worse. The thing that really scared me was that their manager was my predecessor at my present club, which must form part of the AI's pre-match calculations. I played the game 3 times, using each of my prepared tactics in turn. All 3 tactics have completely different formations, styles and strategies. I let my assistant pick the team on each occasion. All 3 matches ended in draws. The first two were scoring draws in which my opponent scored a late equaliser. The last one was goalless.
I find that the average rating seems to be a good indicator. If the average rating is very close or in favour of the oppossition then they will get a result 9 times out of 10. The same doesn't seem to apply to the human manager. I've been involved in several games where I've been 0.4 or more ahead on average rating, but not won the match. I can't think of a single occasion where the AI has been that far ahead and not got the result.
This obviously proves nothing, but I still agree with the above quote. The AI has to know the game inside out, because IT IS the game! Granted, it can't come up with all the wacky tactics that we humans do, but it surely has a much better chance of finding a way to counter whatever tactic we may think up.
You're confusing the AI with the ME. How often and well each AI manager uses the TC and shouts is based on their attributes. So it actually doesn't know the game inside out. I think people give the AI more credit than its due
Same with team talks. Although it pretty much fails on player interactions. And on squad building.
Sorry about the confusion between AI and ME. Getting my Acronyms in a twist! It was late!
Based on the manager attributes thing, a 15 year old who takes the Man U job as his 1st step in management should get stuffed the majority of the time by teams like Wigan, who's manager has to have far superior attributes. Can you imagine Rooney or RVP taking orders from, or being motivated by, a 15 year old? I've always said that you should never be able to start this game with your first job being Man U or Barca or Real Madrid. Those jobs should be the pinnacle of a career, not the start! Then again, I guess the plastic fans would never buy the game in the first place if they had to manage Accrington Stanley before their "beloved" big 6 club!
Sorry about the confusion between AI and ME. Getting my Acronyms in a twist! It was late!
Based on the manager attributes thing, a 15 year old who takes the Man U job as his 1st step in management should get stuffed the majority of the time by teams like Wigan, who's manager has to have far superior attributes. Can you imagine Rooney or RVP taking orders from, or being motivated by, a 15 year old? I've always said that you should never be able to start this game with your first job being Man U or Barca or Real Madrid. Those jobs should be the pinnacle of a career, not the start! Then again, I guess the plastic fans would never buy the game in the first place if they had to manage Accrington Stanley before their "beloved" big 6 club!
But Accrington stanley players can get motivated by a 15 year old?
Put it this way you play as the Blades, imagine they were a top 6 club. Much as you can play as others, you'd still be pretty annoyed not being able to start as your side. That's where the choice comes in. Of course when you start as a journeyman, you cant just be your favourite club if you set your rep as lowest.