Ramsey hit by horrific leg injury
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I'm a idiot? Alright then how about if your if a situation like that a 50/50 challenge pull out? You should be able to do it quickly or in a reasonable time if you cant then you have reaction skills like a potato and shouldnt be a footballer.
No comment on the last one? Why:S Shawcross was clearly in Arsenal's half and like all football fans you should know center backs shouldnt be there.
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How does me saying, "Some of the stuff on here is unbelievable", warrant that response?
Who said anyone was keeping me here? Ridiculous statement.
Though that should probably be expected from you after posting this little gem, "The Leg-Breaking animal gets in ", on the England selection thread.
Eddlad, will you please answer me that? Yes or no. Because im sure you'll know the anwser when you've experienced it believe me and come back to me then? and that goes to everyone.
Ive been waiting god knows how long for a answer but no
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i saw a video on youtube yesterday with 3 still shots at the end clearly showing his leg snapping before the tackle from shawcross connected, cant seem to find it now though......:S
my opinion: 2 committed players, one got there slightly before the other in a 50/50 challenge, the fact that shawcross cried afterwards suggests there was zero intent, compare his reaction to roy keane crunching and then standing over alf-inge haaland and calling him a **** before marching off down the tunnel.
gabriel marcotti (the well respected italian/american pundit) summed it up perfectly:
''its not that the tackle was dangerous as wenger and some others might be suggesting, indeed the tackle (aside from being an everyday foul) and stokes general style of play were within the rules and are not considered dangerous. The debate we should be having is whether or not we should be looking at what is classsed as dangerous within the rules. I'm not confident that its a good idea to reduce the amount of physical contact in football, but stoke and other teams are currently being very physical and remaining within the rules of the game, should the rules be looked at? i dont know.''
aside from all this debate, i wish ramsey a speedy recovery
my opinion: 2 committed players, one got there slightly before the other in a 50/50 challenge, the fact that shawcross cried afterwards suggests there was zero intent, compare his reaction to roy keane crunching and then standing over alf-inge haaland and calling him a **** before marching off down the tunnel.
gabriel marcotti (the well respected italian/american pundit) summed it up perfectly:
''its not that the tackle was dangerous as wenger and some others might be suggesting, indeed the tackle (aside from being an everyday foul) and stokes general style of play were within the rules and are not considered dangerous. The debate we should be having is whether or not we should be looking at what is classsed as dangerous within the rules. I'm not confident that its a good idea to reduce the amount of physical contact in football, but stoke and other teams are currently being very physical and remaining within the rules of the game, should the rules be looked at? i dont know.''
aside from all this debate, i wish ramsey a speedy recovery
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Eddlad, will you please answer me that? Yes or no. Because im sure you'll know the anwser when you've experienced it believe me and come back to me then?.
Ive been waiting god knows how long for a answer but no
The question " have I been in a situation like that?"
Of course, playing CB I make 50/50 challenges (or at least attempt to) every game. Once you have committed to a tackle you cannot back out or it tends to result in an injury to yourself.
The fact that Ramsey broke his leg was a combination of things, sheer bad luck, slightly mi-timed challenge, all his weight was on his right leg, his ankle was already buckled as he goes in to the challenge.
And to add about Shawcross' positioning. Yes he was caught out of position, is that a crime? Happens to the best of players against Arsenal.
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What would I get an infraction for?
Fair enough, no it isnt a crime. Yes gallas and vermaelen tend to do also but thats becuase they have to as we are a very attacking team and our back four are forced to push up to fill gaps in the middle of the park. Stoke however are a balanced squad very organised so no one needs to run around from their actual position eg shawcross.
Hopefully this puts this debate to bed anyway.
Hopefully this puts this debate to bed anyway.
found this, not sure how well it backs up my previous argument that he broke his leg before shawcross's tackle as it can be argued that this pic is just before or just after impact. either way its pretty graphic
the video i watched has been removed due to copyright.
found this, not sure how well it backs up my previous argument that he broke his leg before shawcross's tackle, the video i watche has been removed due to copyright. either way its pretty graphic
Yeh looks pretty dodgey dont have a clue how someone can do that while running just puts more question marks in your head.
the other images i saw suggested the leg had gone before the tackle, but as i say, theyve been removed now. If sky sports would release some slow-mo footage then all would solved, im sure they did for the eduardo tackle becuase everyone was saying what a bad tackle it was.
if you watch video footage though, ramsey gets there first (why he got hit with a late challenge) and nicks the ball, which shoots off quite a way before he is tackled
doubt sky will release any more, when it happened during the game the commentator said "this is bad, he is in real trouble, its looks really bad, we wont be seeing it live again", ive downloaded it off youtube, gonna find a slow motion player to have a look at it
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