Tactic Testing - European Super League

Will1981 · Apr 7, 2015

Enzo Perez said:
And Joss Final
Still one of the best tactics in this forum...for me the best and most consistent!

DejanST said:
KillerBee is not on test? This is biased for me.

this is just the 1st round will add 6 different tactics next round.

TotalFootballFan9 · Apr 7, 2015

Heh... for me the assistant manager picks Yilmaz as Shadow Striker but has Technique - 8! Passing - 9! Dribling - 11! It's just ridiculous!

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But there’s a beast for this role such as Eder… and the assistant manager ignores him… :'(

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justified · Apr 7, 2015

TotalFootballFan9 said:
Heh... for me the assistant manager picks Yilmaz as Shadow Striker but has Technique - 8! Passing - 9! Dribling - 11!

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But there’s a beast for this role such as Eder… and the assistant manager ignores him… :'(

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Hence why these versions of tactic testing leagues are completely moot. Generic roles/attributes need to be made to get accurate results. Testing tactics this way is quite pointless and a waste of time. But if this is how Will wants to test tactics then let him. Results are there be taken how ever people want.

Mr Langvatn · Apr 7, 2015

justified said:
Hence why these versions of tactic testing leagues are completely moot. Generic roles/attributes need to be made to get accurate results. Testing tactics this way is quite pointless and a waste of time. But if this is how Will wants to test tactics then let him. Results are there be taken how ever people want.

It's not a waste of time. It is good for people who play online

Mr Langvatn · Apr 7, 2015

For AI test accuracy, Will has other tactic test threads (or had?)

This is simply a fun project I belive

Will1981 · Apr 7, 2015

Test 1 - Tactics

BLACK - 4-3-3 (Goal Machine)

BLUE - Bad Posession v1.2

GREEN - Bantons 2nd try BARCE

RED - Mr Langvatn 2-5-3 Mean Machine

WHITE - TFF EXECUTIONER (ULTIMATE) V6

YELLOW - V1 3ST Be Legendary

intensa · Apr 7, 2015

Can Not believe TFF EXECUTIONER (ULTIMATE) V6 is so bad in your test...

Will1981 · Apr 7, 2015

Test 1 - Tactics

BLACK - 4-3-3 (Goal Machine)

BLUE - Bad Posession v1.2

GREEN - Bantons 2nd try BARCE

RED - Mr Langvatn 2-5-3 Mean Machine

WHITE - TFF EXECUTIONER (ULTIMATE) V6

YELLOW - V1 3ST Be Legendary

Will1981 · Apr 7, 2015

Test 1 - Tactics

BLACK - 4-3-3 (Goal Machine)

BLUE - Bad Posession v1.2

GREEN - Bantons 2nd try BARCE

RED - Mr Langvatn 2-5-3 Mean Machine

WHITE - TFF EXECUTIONER (ULTIMATE) V6

YELLOW - V1 3ST Be Legendary

jamesdexter78 · Apr 7, 2015

I thought crags tweak had bettered bad possession 1.2?

Mr Langvatn · Apr 7, 2015

So, the three worst tactics so far, TFF's, pl3orious' and mine

Fun test, but far from accurate

You probably see this yourself when you compare to all your other test results

Mr Langvatn · Apr 7, 2015

In my own testing, TFF's and pl3orious tactics were among the only ones that "survived", or did well, the test

Will1981 · Apr 7, 2015

Mr Langvatn said:
So, the three worst tactics so far, TFF's, pl3orious' and mine Fun test, but far from accurate You probably see this yourself when you compare to all your other test results

I havn't tested yours or TFF's new tactics on any of my previous tests but your right about Bad Possession is usually in or around the top 3, I will test BP in the mirrored version next test and see what happens.

Like you said though your new tactic may not be best suited for underdogs, Ps this is the first time I have tested Banton's tactic and it seems very solid.

Will1981 · Apr 7, 2015

Test 1 - Tactics

BLACK - 4-3-3 (Goal Machine)

BLUE - Bad Posession v1.2

GREEN - Bantons 2nd try BARCE

RED - Mr Langvatn 2-5-3 Mean Machine

WHITE - TFF EXECUTIONER (ULTIMATE) V6

YELLOW - V1 3ST Be Legendary

Mr Langvatn · Apr 7, 2015

Will1981 said:
I havn't tested yours or TFF's new tactics on any of my previous tests but your right about Bad Possession is usually in or around the top 3, I will test BP in the mirrored version next test and see what happens.

Like you said though your new tactic may not be best suited for underdogs, Ps this is the first time I have tested Banton's tactic and it seems very solid.

Just for fun, I ran a quick season with Leicester using the Mean Machine. I know it's not the best for underdog, but I was surprised that it did so decent:

Will1981 · Apr 7, 2015

Mr Langvatn said:
Just for fun, I ran a quick season with Leicester using the Mean Machine. I know it's not the best for underdog, but I was surprised that it did so decent:

thats good for Leicester

		Pld	Won	Drn	Lst	For	Ag	G. D	Pts
TFF EXECUTIONER (ULTIMATE) V4	TotalFootballFan9	38	21	4	13	83	61	22	67
MrFunk DLF	Mr Funk	38	20	5	13	100	86	14	65
4-3-3 (Goal Machine) (seeursaw)		38	19	6	13	76	64	12	63
TFF EXECUTIONER (ATTACK) V11	TotalFootballFan9	38	18	8	12	69	59	10	62
****'O Kitty V2	TacticOFtheYEAR	38	18	4	16	86	83	3	58
Bad Possession v1.2 (pl3rious)		38	18	4	16	85	97	-12	58
Mr Langvatn 4-2-4 Gung-Ho Madness Final Version		38	17	6	15	90	88	2	57
KillerBee 15.3	psycadelik	38	16	7	15	63	52	11	55
TFF EXECUTIONER (BASE) V1	TotalFootballFan9	38	15	9	14	65	60	5	54

Mr Langvatn · Apr 7, 2015

Will1981 said:
I havn't tested yours or TFF's new tactics on any of my previous tests but your right about Bad Possession is usually in or around the top 3, I will test BP in the mirrored version next test and see what happens.

Like you said though your new tactic may not be best suited for underdogs, Ps this is the first time I have tested Banton's tactic and it seems very solid.

Give the BP mirrored version the green team

Then you will see it will do better, and that different schedule for each team = very unfair testing

It would be the same as if in my tactic test, I didn't make a template save, but start from scratch every time with new fixture list. Yes, during the season, the test team will face the same teams, but in a different order. And when you don't freeze morale, that order is by far the most determining factor of the test.

(This is just an example though, as I have no idea how BP does as underdog)

My test is more of a mid or sub-top team test.

Will1981 · Apr 7, 2015

Mr Langvatn said:
Give the BP mirrored version the green team Then you will see it will do better, and that different schedule for each team = very unfair testing It would be the same as if in my tactic test, I didn't make a template save, but start from scratch every time with new fixture list. Yes, during the season, the test team will face the same teams, but in a different order. And when you don't freeze morale, that order is by far the most determining factor of the test.

(This is just an example though, as I have no idea how BP does as underdog) My test is more of a mid or sub-top team test.

the 6 teams in this test are the worst 6 teams in the league

Mr Langvatn · Apr 7, 2015

Will1981 said:
the 6 teams in this test are the worst 6 teams in the league

Hehe yeah, underdog test without a doubt

Will1981 · Apr 7, 2015

Test 1 - Tactics

BLACK - 4-3-3 (Goal Machine)

BLUE - Bad Posession v1.2

GREEN - Bantons 2nd try BARCE

RED - Mr Langvatn 2-5-3 Mean Machine

WHITE - TFF EXECUTIONER (ULTIMATE) V6

YELLOW - V1 3ST Be Legendary

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