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Yea I am noticing that in the first matches. I concede a few but I seem to out score the opponents which is fine by me. In a friendly I had 32 shots on goal in the last match which is a record for me.
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Yea I am noticing that in the first matches. I concede a few but I seem to out score the opponents which is fine by me. In a friendly I had 32 shots on goal in the last match which is a record for me.
1. advanced forward imo for AgueroI have a few questions
1) what is Sergio Aguero's best role out of these two - Poacher or Advanced forward. Has to be out of them because im using JP Woody high scoring tactic 11.2
2) Who would go into the other role that Sergio aguero does not fit into E.G. if Aguero is a poacher who would be a good advanced forward?
2. for the poacher role Barrios from B.Dortmund is immense. V.Kadlec is a good young, cheap poacher. Or if you can J.Hernandez of Man United is one of the best poachers in the game.
Take him out of the team. Say you are giving him a rest and then put him back in the side against a weak opponent maybe a cup tie.
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have a look through the tactics in the download section. JP Woody's Brian Clough tactic is immense and he also made an "Anti football" tactic which is great for the underdog team.Just started managing at German third division side 'Koblenz' anybody got any tactics that will help me get these in the first division?
1. advanced forward imo for Aguero
2. for the poacher role Barrios from B.Dortmund is immense. V.Kadlec is a good young, cheap poacher. Or if you can J.Hernandez of Man United is one of the best poachers in the game.
thanks mate
How is Alonso doing dropping back because imo he is more of a passer so a Mascherano or Busquets would of been better to drop back from DM.
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1. advanced forward imo for Aguero
2. for the poacher role Barrios from B.Dortmund is immense. V.Kadlec is a good young, cheap poacher. Or if you can J.Hernandez of Man United is one of the best poachers in the game.
thanks mate
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He is doing alright for being a passer as u said but it is early days yet will see how the season goes.
Hello guys, i have a quick question. I'm playing as Borussia Dortmund (2019), and i'm looking for a third formation. I usually use a 4-1-1-2-2 (DM, CM, AMRL) and a 4-5-1 (DM-CM-CM-AMRL). Now i would like a formation which uses more attacks through the middle. I have thought about a 4-3-3 (DM-DM-AMC-ST-ST-ST) but that didn't work so well.
So if anyone uses a similar formation successfully, please help me out.
So if anyone uses a similar formation successfully, please help me out.
Me too!
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I would actually stay with the same formation( if its a wide 4231 using wingers), only making the following changes to it
Strategy: Counter
Shouts: get ball forward, Exploit the flanks
- This way, you play more direct in a higher tempo. Your central midfielders will hold up the ball until your wide players have got into a attakcing position beforr making a t-ball into one of them
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I had a look in your post and to be honest, I would need more information on how you play. You say that you have this problems against other big teams when you are not using counter attacks, is this correct. Have you tried sitting deeper and playing on the break. If so, what happens then. The things is that I think that both your problems have the same solution. If being unable to handle the attacking players of the opponent, your players being dragged out of position, your team is loosing its shape and you will also have a problem when trying to make that pass to a team mate.
But as I said, its hard to know without actually knowing how you play. If you want, I can have a look at your tactic and tell you where I think the problem lie and suggest some minor tweaks ( read shouts) that you can implement when this occurs
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right now i'm playing with 2 DMs wide playing style, possesion football and a quick tempo with extra deep defence.if i pull my AMC to a CM and distribute to flanks with a counter attacking style should it work?also i've tried to use wingers with a tall forward but it just dont seem to work.i get very few headers.
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This is my current approach when using a Wide and flat 4321 ( MC-MC-MC-AMR-AML-FC)
When I start the match, I just use Counter without no shouts ( obviously)
When I want to hit them on the counter in a quicker and more direct way, exploiting the fact that the opponent is pushing up their d-line, I make the following shouts.
When I want to keep possession better, playing more slowly and in a more cautious and narrow approach but still wanting top be able to hit them on the counter when the chance is on, I use these shouts
As an example I was just playing home to Wolves in a game where I was a heavy favourite. As I still want to use the Counter approach, I started out watching the game in full mode( as always) and implemented the more cautious shouts after 10 seconds. When I was 2-0 up, they started to push their team forward and then I switched to the more quick direct approach. I then hit them on the break twice. AS they then started to play very cautious again, I lost possession due to the fact that they sat behind with the whole team. I then switched back to the more cautious and probing approach and regained possession, ending up wining the game 6-0
If wanting top play a quick game or a slow probing possession approach, you can still use a heading monster up front although I would never use him as a target man. If he is having a bad day or the supply to him is poor, we will loose out in possession too early in attacks and might get caught on the break ourselves
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My wingers are Wingers on support and I change their wide play depending on who's playing. I having a left foot on right flank, i let him cut inside but if he already dop this due to his ppm, I let him move into channels. If I have a great crosser left foot on left, I left him hug the touchline.
In Midfield, I have one deeplying playmaker ( the central one), one ballwinner and one Central mid, all on support with no tweaks mad to their roles.
If I was to use a DMC-DMC-MC, I would make sure that one of the DMCs was the playmaker. If using a DMC, DMC, AMC, I would do the same or use no playmaker. Just as long as the AMC is not the playmaker by the same reason i don't want a target man. If our players look for him in haste, we loose out in possession
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Does this mean that you are not scoring at all or that you just prefer scoring forom headers ?. What the instructions of your FC ?
i'm in 1st place in the austrina 1st division with 49 goals in 20 matches having conceded only 9.I get a lot of goals but not from headers.I'm playing my striker as an advanced forward and my wingers with an attakc or a support duty depending on the tactic.The problem is when i'm playing the big teams in the Champions Leauge.Every year i get past the group stage and then get owned in the quarter finals.I need some solution in order to beat them
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I would not worry too much about not scoring from headers as long as you are getting results ( not getting results in the knockout stage has nothing to do with headers). If you do want to score more from headers, the the advanced forward isn't exactly the role he needs. When a cross gets in, he is mostly going to be at the need of his move, standing still and winning that header and score form it is not easy. Most goals scored from crosses are on to a man timing his run to meet up with the cross. In this case, he needs to be further down the field, dropping deep to get the ball and linking up with the play,acting like a deepcoming target man. Lower mentality, no runs from deep and playing a short passing game.
Also take into accout that when playing with a top team, the opponent tends to sit deep and when the cross gets into the box, the defenders are in a good defensive position to clear the ball
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Positional question - Wingbacks vs Fullbacks what are the pros and cons especially with wingbacks in the traditional Fullback position (ie NOT pushed higher up towards midfield) I run a 451 with wide inside forwards moving into channels and a poacher. I have fullbacks(support) currently and I seem to have problems with a 4231 defensively and any formation with 2 DM's (offensively). I was thinking wingbacks may help with the battle in midfield and provide more support against defensive formations
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Well, you can still stick to using AMRL, but set them to inside forward, also narrow width. Use left footed inside forward in the AMR position and vice versa. When they receive the ball they cut inside looking for through ball rather than running along the touchline looking for cross. 4-5-1, 4-2-3-1 or 4-2-2-2 should work, set at least 1 striker to poacher/advanced forward so that he is always looking to break the opposition defensive line with direct run and your inside forwards delivering the through ball to them.
Another option would be 4-1-2-3 (DM-CM-CM-ST-ST-ST), at least Brobs17 has made one good (what I have heard) tactic that uses 4-1-2-3. If you don't want to use downloaded tactics, you could still take a look at it and take some ideas for your tactic.