Tactics & Training: The " I have a small question " thread

I seem to have found a tactic which works in half the teams, but I just do not know WHY does it work?

When not using Raikan's perfect 4-3-3, i go with my own "French national team tactic", a tactic that is basically fully default.

My team at that point looks like this
GK - Defend
RB - Wing Back Attack (or Full Back Attack)
LB - Wing Back Attack (or Full Back Attack)
RCB - Central Defender Cover / Ball Playing Defender Cover
LCB - Central Defender Stopper / Ball Playing Defender Stopper

(RCB - LCB best combo if one isn't ball playing def and the other is)

MCL - Ball Winning Midfielder Support or Defend
MCR - Ball Winning Midfielder Defend

(Only change I ever did to this was back in FM 2010 - MCR - Central Midfielder Defend, MCL - Central Midfielder Support - worked well in French nat. team with 2 out of these four: Makelele, Vieira, Alou Diarra, Toulalan; working together)

AMR - Inside Forward Attack (in some cases the only thing I change in his PI from defualt is to "Move Into Channels" or Cut inside - only used this on FM 2010 on Anelka)
AML - Winger - Attack
AMC - Trequartista - Attack

ST - Poacher - Attack

Why does this tactic work so good with every team instruction being set to default?
The only things during the match that I do, is To set the mentality to attacking and to use team instructions:
Work ball into box
Exploit the flanks?


I'd like to at least figure out why is this strategy working for me in some of my saves (French national Team, Dinamo, Schalke, Liverpool old saves, Shakhtar, etc etc)

I'm not much of a "tactic maker", this is basically the only thing that I ever made that actually worked, so I'd like to know if you guys can tell me, how come it actually works? Is it the fact that most of those teams use a similar formation so this works or is it just luck in choosing a tactic?
 
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Control Strategy works better with slow tempo and narrow witdh or fast tempo and wide with?
 
raul93-fan said:
I seem to have found a tactic which works in half the teams, but I just do not know WHY does it work?

When not using Raikan's perfect 4-3-3, i go with my own "French national team tactic", a tactic that is basically fully default.

My team at that point looks like this
GK - Defend
RB - Wing Back Attack (or Full Back Attack)
LB - Wing Back Attack (or Full Back Attack)
RCB - Central Defender Cover / Ball Playing Defender Cover
LCB - Central Defender Stopper / Ball Playing Defender Stopper

(RCB - LCB best combo if one isn't ball playing def and the other is)

MCL - Ball Winning Midfielder Support or Defend
MCR - Ball Winning Midfielder Defend

(Only change I ever did to this was back in FM 2010 - MCR - Central Midfielder Defend, MCL - Central Midfielder Support - worked well in French nat. team with 2 out of these four: Makelele, Vieira, Alou Diarra, Toulalan; working together)

AMR - Inside Forward Attack (in some cases the only thing I change in his PI from defualt is to "Move Into Channels" or Cut inside - only used this on FM 2010 on Anelka)
AML - Winger - Attack
AMC - Trequartista - Attack

ST - Poacher - Attack

Why does this tactic work so good with every team instruction being set to default?
The only things during the match that I do, is To set the mentality to attacking and to use team instructions:
Work ball into box
Exploit the flanks?


I'd like to at least figure out why is this strategy working for me in some of my saves (French national Team, Dinamo, Schalke, Liverpool old saves, Shakhtar, etc etc)

I'm not much of a "tactic maker", this is basically the only thing that I ever made that actually worked, so I'd like to know if you guys can tell me, how come it actually works? Is it the fact that most of those teams use a similar formation so this works or is it just luck in choosing a tactic?
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You wonder why the tactic works even though the settings are just on defalt.The though behind the TC is to create balanced tactics and as long as one provide a balance between defensive players, players on support duty etc, along with some players providing width, movement ( runs from deep, into channels and roaming9, you get a solid tactic.
You don't have to complicate things in FM, hence is it working for you.

As for why it works with some teams and not with some, its just down to the quality or the team and the fact that you face teams that sits deep and play cautious against you. The shouts you mentioned are also perfect against those opponents and if having players that are able to find and create space, you will do it in style :D

With that said, the
 
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i tried loads of setting to make my amc to score more...
what i have tried, anyhow it doesnt work
 
CB - King is am best.
I always think, doing training is good for everyone.
 
alexmos93 said:
Control Strategy works better with slow tempo and narrow width or fast tempo and wide with?
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No appraoch is better than the other as its the circumstances that is at key here.

You choose the control( that is higher than average in tempo and width and mentality) strategy because you want to play slightly more attacking and controlling( more of the pitch) than when using balanced( that is much slower and more narrow and more cautious in mentality). If wanting to play more cautious , making in-game tweaks, just use the shout retain possession and if wanting to play wider and with more tempo, perhaps get ball forward, play wider.

Now the reason for me writing how to play wider/slower etc withing the match, something you did not ask for, is because it actually hold the answer to your question. It is better to play with more width and tempo when the opponent is flooding the midfield, sitting deep and playing narrow and cautious. Its better to play slow and more narrow when you want to retain and keep the possession etc
 
Hi All,

Playing my Southampton save currently and have just got promotion to championship and am now improving my staffing levels.

My question is......What attributes should i be looking for in a Youth Coach and a First Team Coach?

Hope you can help, Thanks.
 
iNickStuff said:
Be more specific. "What have you tried?"
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I am playing with Chelsea, with a 4321 formation.
what i want is want to recreate the formation AC Milan have used while Kaka is in their team.

i could win the game but my ac doesnt score as much as i want, because Kaka used to be AC Milan top goal scorer, but i cant do it in my team.
 
robing9g said:
I am playing with Chelsea, with a 4321 formation.
what i want is want to recreate the formation AC Milan have used while Kaka is in their team.

i could win the game but my ac doesnt score as much as i want, because Kaka used to be AC Milan top goal scorer, but i cant do it in my team.
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Can you provide a screenshot of your Player Instructions at least? You really need to put in more detail, because really your just giving bits of string to me.
 
How can i stop conceding 75% of the dead ball situations. I dunno if it is from this new patch but since i installed it 90% of my conceded goals are from dead balls...
 
whats ppls take on pitch sizes ie. if u play a team with narrow pitch u would maybe play narrow yourself etc but is there any other things to look at ie tempo,passing style etc i find tou play 3 pitches wide,narrow and short with the latter i struggle with as others seem quite simple but whats your take on the 3?
 
how do i set my fullback/wingback to make late runs?like alves does at barca...
 
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iNickStuff said:
Can you provide a screenshot of your Player Instructions at least? You really need to put in more detail, because really your just giving bits of string to me.
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I am currently playing with a formation like this
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my striker instruction
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my amc, the kaka role what i am saying.
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i dropped deep my another amx to make my kaka role much more front
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Can someone help me? I need an attacking formation with this formation

STL--STC--STR
---------------
---MCL-MCR---
WBL-DMC-WBR
---DCL-DCR---
------GK------

My player roles:


Winger Attack-------------Poacher Attack-------------Winger Attack
--------------------------------------------------------------------
--------Central Midfielder Support-Advanced Playmaker Attack--------
Wing Back Automatic-Defensive Midfielder Defend-Wing Back Automatic
----------Central Defender Stopper-Central Defender Cover-----------
-------------------------Goalkeeper Defend-------------------------

Okay, so I used with Germany, on match against Italy, on first half, I win 4-0, I don't change my tactic, and my pep talk is "Pleased", then in 2nd half they nearly beat me, they got 3 goals, luckily Muller score more and I win 5-3, then I use this against Spain, but they got 2 goals first, then I got 1 goal, and lose 2-1, please help me making this tactic better
 
Hello

I need a little bit of help with a new tactic that I created to emulate Bayerns and the German NT system.
It is a 4-2-3-1 that is supposed to rely heavily on the wingers.

So far, my squad has performed pretty well with the tactic; scoring many goals and getting a lot of assists from my wingers. That said, I have a massive problem defending the long ball. Teams will hit it long out of their own half and my CB will stand idly by and watch the ST run past them for an easy one on one (or even two on one) with the keeper.

Furthermore, my players (especially my CM's) tend to take a lot of ill advised long shots even though I have their Long shot taking turned down.

While I have only lost one match so far, my performances are wildly inconsistent. For example, I am beating top ranked BL teams by wide margins (4-0) and then I lost to Anderlecht at home 1-0.

I attached my tactic below; maybe someone could take a look at it and help me out a bit.


View attachment 165708
 
prob asked about 1000000 times before but do you use a home and away tactic if so how do they vary, at the moment i just have 1 tactic but considering making a second just for away games like some managers do in reality
 
Why is goals galore tactic **** for me? im using liverpool suarez has scored 2 in 18 so i was forced to buy Rossi who doing alright but i lost to teams like newcastle,bolton,drawed with blackpool :/
 
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