One season isnt a decline. For a decline you need a trend, one season doesn't give you a trend. A gradual fall over 7-8 seasons most certainly is, as there is a declining trend. Doesn't bother me as a United fan, one less title rival. But certain sections of the Arsenal support should be asking what their £1000 a year season ticket is getting them.
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One season isnt a decline. For a decline you need a trend, one season doesn't give you a trend. A gradual fall over 7-8 seasons most certainly is, as there is a declining trend. Doesn't bother me as a United fan, one less title rival. But certain sections of the Arsenal support should be asking what their £1000 a year season ticket is getting them.
Every **** article from the past half decade has extolled the virtues of Arsenal's policy and pointed out how much money you have. Here, have but one quote:
Swiss Ramble said:
And a graph:
And a quote to help with the graph:
Swiss Ramble said:
So face the facts, for goodness sakes. In cash balance alone you have shitloads of money, and that is just one part of your overall finances.
Harsh on Jenkinson to say the least. Charlton to Arsenal is a big step up, I personally think he has a bright future and he has looked good in the opening games this season.
I'd rather watch the game than look at stats. Stats can make players out to be better than they actually are
We haven't fallen gradually over the last 7-8 years. We had one drastic fall and have stayed roughly around the same position since.
And I give up about the money thing. i stand corrected, I blame the board
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Well.....Tiotes stats make him out to be a fine player. Because he is oO)
And, as per usual, the person who was just categorically proved incorrect by stats pulls this outmoded bullshit "oh but stats don't tell the whole story" excuse out of their ****.
Stats don't tell the whole story, but they tell much of it, and they're actually facts rather than just misguided opinion. There is literally no way you can say Tiote's lazy when he in truth runs some of the highest amounts in the Prem. It's just bollocks, plain and simple. Just because you don't agree with the truth doesn't mean you have to try and struggle your way around it.
I would take Tiote instantly at United, for all the reasons above GodCubed gave (I think). He would be exactly what United need, although very unlikely to happen as Fergie has a lot of faith in his current CM options.
Yep, without hesitation-absolute workhorse. The lazy comment actually made me spit out my energy drink with laughter lol. And to think he only cost £3.5 million, now worth about £20 million. Brilliant find by Newcastle.
God, imagine what he would be like alongside Fellaini if he joined Everton? Mouthwatering. hypothetical I know, but already planning for FM 2013 lol
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Either you're a troll or retarded. Trying to figure out which. It's quite hard. I'm assuming retarded, so here's a refresher:
How is that not saying anything negative about him, precisely?
No, they don't.
I thought we were talking about Song.
And Walcott was one of our top assisters last season
Not true. Walls don't answer back with something more stupid than before.
Wow, right on cue...
Then you're an idiot who can't read.
Which is exactly why stats should be left to people who understand them rather than just people who see big numbers and go "HURR HE MUST BE GOOD".
Then you're an idiot who can't read.
Which is exactly why stats should be left to people who understand them rather than just people who see big numbers and go "HURR HE MUST BE GOOD".
Clearly it's ajt09's fault as he quoted my when I mentioned Song and then talked about Tiote. I assumed he was still talking about song
And yes that clearly would be my point about stats
Clearly it's ajt09's fault as he quoted my when I mentioned Song and then talked about Tiote. I assumed he was still talking about song
It was very clear he was talking about Tiote, especially since he said '[Tiote] would improve the side'.
What, that I can actually pick out relevant ones and you can't?
No it was really just a misunderstanding. He said we would suffer if we didn't get a DMF like Tiote but then my question to him was about a DMF without including Tiote and he also replied without including Tiote. The last name mentioned in the discussion between me and him was Song so silly me for assuming we were talking about Song.
And my point about stats was i'd rather the game than pick out stats
What makes some stats relevant and others not so? Shouldn't all the irrelevant stats be discarded then since they are so irrelevant?No it was really just a misunderstanding. He said we would suffer if we didn't get a DMF like Tiote but then my question to him was about a DMF without including Tiote and he also replied without including Tiote. The last name mentioned in the discussion between me and him was Song so silly me for assuming we were talking about Song.
And my point about stats was i'd rather the game than pick out stats
Stats are only as good as the person that uses them. An assists stat is relevant when used in the correct context.
And my point about stats was i'd rather the game than pick out stats
Right, except watching the game can only tell you so much. A good blend of the correct of stats can tell you a lot more accurately something about a player.
You need to work out which stats are relevant through careful debate with yourself and others. Obviously, with a player like Tiote or Song, tackling stats are going to be more important, same goes for interception and fouling stats. Less important are shooting stats. You afford more credence to some stats than others in regards to specific types of player.
As for Walcott, assists are very relevant, as are goals, and he had 8 of each. However, that's offset quite a bit by the fact he took 76 shots to score those 8, had an under 80% pass success rate, only 41 key passes, 35 successful dribbles and dispossessed or turned over the ball to the opposition 147 times throughout the season.