it was meant to be superficial...yall worried about a red card and i dont think it matters. **** happens. And ramsey and.wilshere have played deep before and are capable.
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This is such a superficial view of events. You honestly think that Arsenal would've done as well as they have if they weren't solid defensively (with Flamini playing a leading role in it)? Arteta and Flamini are both likely to be out for the new couple of games (maybe more), which will be a massive blow - as good as they both are, Wilshere and Ramsey are not a solid deep-lying pair - even Coquelin and Diaby would be a more balanced, and probably defensively-solid, pair.
However, that's not to say that it means Arsenal will lose their next few matches - the game next week against us will really help determine how serious they are as contenders this season.
it was neant to be superficial...yall worried about a red card and i dont think it matters. **** happens. And ramsey and.wilshere have played deep before and are capable.
Vermaelen used to be a decent defensive mid at Ajax, so he could play there if we really need it.
We played Verminator at DM in closing minutes of games last season...Arsene even mentioned his intrigue at playing him more there.
Then you're being na?ve. Ramsey and Wilshere deep against top sides will not work, they are both too attack-minded. It's stupid to think that Flamini/Arteta out is not a problem, it is.it was meant to be superficial...yall worried about a red card and i dont think it matters. **** happens. And ramsey and.wilshere have played deep before and are capable.
Yes, you can't get disheartened by every setback, but that doesn't mean you can be complacent and think it's nothing to worry about. You can't deny Flamini and Arteta are vital players to the team, and will be solely missed. If it was an attacking midfielder missing, Arsenal would be fine due to the depth there, but there's no defensive-minded deep-lying midfielders in the squad - which will be a big problem against big teams, as team balance will be vital.Agreed, you cant just look at every setback, there is always injuries/red cards what have you. What matters is we got 3 points and still top, flamini missing is huge against chealsea manu and liverpool but thats another problem
Vermaelen at DM?
I'm inclined to remove all your posting rights for even mentioning it.
Then you're being na?ve. Ramsey and Wilshere deep against top sides will not work, they are both too attack-minded. It's stupid to think that Flamini/Arteta out is not a problem, it is.
Yes, you can't get disheartened by every setback, but that doesn't mean you can be complacent and think it's nothing to worry about. You can't deny Flamini and Arteta are vital players to the team, and will be solely missed. If it was an attacking midfielder missing, Arsenal would be fine due to the depth there, but there's no defensive-minded deep-lying midfielders in the squad - which will be a big problem against big teams, as team balance will be vital.
"Could not care less about the red card atm" - does this not suggest that you don't think it's anything to worry about? Ramsey as a holding midfielder? Don't make me laugh! That's like playing Terry upfront.Dont put words in my mouth, son. I said Im not going to cry about arteta red card, part of the game. Ramsey can handle the dm role and jack can play the passer in the combo if it comes to it. Now run along chicken little, im not interested in getting into a debate over nothin.
"Could not care less about the red card atm" - does this not suggest that you don't think it's anything to worry about? Ramsey as a holding midfielder? Don't make me laugh! That's like playing Terry upfront.
"Could not care less about the red card atm" - does this not suggest that you don't think it's anything to worry about? Ramsey as a holding midfielder? Don't make me laugh! That's like playing Terry upfront.
That's true, but a holding midfielder has largely benefited your defence this season - Ramsey may've played at DM last season, but on his current run of form, his mentality will largely be to attack.Unsure how much Arsenal you watch, but for last season he played as one of the holding midfield positions in a 4-2-3-1 and did a decent job. Arsenal tend not to ever both with a dedicated DM, it's a comparatively recent thing to have one in the squad! He tends to play it a lot like Arteta plays DM though, and doesn't offer the steel of Flamini.
I'm looking to stir up ****? You've posted the most patronizing post in response to mine where I suggested you were being superficial (which you were).again, not going to argue with you. Ever since you've posted on this thread, you've looked to stir up ****.
There were multiple posts talking about arteta red card...I stated I couldn't care less about the incident, mostly because we won.
Move on.
It might not be his best position, but Ramsey is decent at DM. He averages ~5 tackles per game, which is pretty good. If he play double pivot with Flamini or Arteta, I wouldn't be to much worried about him. His overall game has improved, he was always a clever player.