***THE BETTER HALFS TACTIC UPLOAD & DISCUSSION

[Shiraz]

This is my best result so far, using the Deep and Wide 4-2-3-1 for middle teams from your forum TBH

I used the aggressive counter from the start and changed to the more defensive counter approach after the first goal

 

[kazm]

Hi there. I started a game with Southampton, using your 442 Aston Villa tactic.

After a pretty good start things are again going downhill. Im using the shouts you recommended and try to adjust to opponents players: against fast strikers/wingers i wont use the move higher up shout for example as my DCs are pretty slow.

My team still seems to do decent in creating chances but it could do better and sometimes i just get bumrushed on defense. My pitch size = 1meter broader/longer than regular so not insanely big.

Most trouble im having comes from 451 and 4231 tactics, (i dont use narrow against 451 btw) any tips on how to use the shouts more effectively against them? Or any tips regarding this level of play in general cause even tho im predicted 5th i see a lot of lower predicted teams that seem to be pretty equal in skill.

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[Shiraz]

I have started a new Man Utd save on the new patch and will be giving your Leicester 4-2-3-1 approaches a try. The one you mentioned a few pages back

 

[Shiraz]

I have not played any matches yet and wanted to find out, should I rather use your Top team Arsenal 4-2-3-1?

There are more approaches in that post. Also, which 3 approaches would you add to match prep?

 

[TheBetterHalf]

I have not played any matches yet and wanted to find out, should I rather use your Top team Arsenal 4-2-3-1?

There are more approaches in that post. Also, which 3 approaches would you add to match prep?

I think you should try the Arsenal control version + the Leicester Quick Counter + Leicester Cautious counter and perhaps try to make a possession based balancd approach that is really, really boring

 

[Shiraz]

Actually, after alot of effort and time, and using alot of your ideas (from your approaches) and playing to my team's strengths, I have come up with a TC made 4-2-3-1 that is really producing some of the best football I have seen in the ME

Only played 3 competitive matches so far but have scored 12 goals and conceded 2.

I do however have the images of the different approaches saved on my PC to use for ideas and stuff

 

[TheBetterHalf]

Actually, after alot of effort and time, and using alot of your ideas (from your approaches) and playing to my team's strengths, I have come up with a TC made 4-2-3-1 that is really producing some of the best football I have seen in the ME

Only played 3 competitive matches so far but have scored 12 goals and conceded 2.

I do however have the images of the different approaches saved on my PC to use for ideas and stuff

That great as it sthe actuall though with this thread, that people should use it fro inspiration to use the TC to the strengths of the team/players.

I am sad to say though that after the last patch, I cant play the game as its too laggy. I have tried to get used to it but it just does not work and I have no idea how to fix it. ( it has happened both on my stationary comp and the laptop)

 

[Mike.]

That great as it sthe actuall though with this thread, that people should use it fro inspiration to use the TC to the strengths of the team/players.

I am sad to say though that after the last patch, I cant play the game as its too laggy. I have tried to get used to it but it just does not work and I have no idea how to fix it. ( it has happened both on my stationary comp and the laptop)

A few people have complained about this. Think there might be a way to fix it on the SI patch feedback thread, not really sure where though, so i'm afraid you'll have to read through a fair amount of drivel on that thread.

Annoyingly i think the site down, at least, i cant open it

 

[Shiraz]

The site is down, yeah. Also, I am having the same problem, particularly when in a match and if I have Chrome open on my 2nd monitor loading a website, the game keeps stuttering and jerking. Highly annoying :/

 

[simulacrum]

Although I deleted the saves (since my brother and I share a computer we save in our names, meaning I only have one at a time) I wanted to experiment with diamonds on the game and used your 4-3-1-2 formations. At half-way with AC Milan I had them in second place, unfortunately Ibrahimovic was as awful as Robinho great.

But the real achievement was in the Eredevisie, where in February I had Vitesse (last year they missed relegation playoffs on GD) in second place, beating Ajax home and away!

I recommend training strikers to come deep though, it makes a lot more space with quick passes for them by overloading in midfield. Good stuff!

 

[me86]

Im in my 3rd season with Huddersfield and had back to back promotions to get to the prem. Ive only just seen this tactic the into Oblivion and want to give it a go with my team. Will it be a problem to input this tactic into my team when ive alreadey started the league and have not been doing well at all. Ive won the first game but been hammered the next 4 games.

The tactic looks made for the players I have with siggurdson to play amc so want to give it a try.

 

[Aeratos20vv]

Hello Mr.Better
I apologise for my poor english...
I'd like to ask you about some things.
I was playing 12.0.3 version where i started my favourite game...I started with Ethinkos Asteras (Greek Division 2)...first season i was predicted 11th out of 18teams...And i succed to get promoted (finished 3rd) with my own tactic...Next season to National A Greek Division (predicted 16th out of 16teams ) i was struggling at the first hald of a season...playing awfull football...That was the time i found your thread and i tried to use one of your tactic...I played Juventus wide (attacking and cautious aproach, depending the opponent) and i had great result...Finished 8th ang won the Greek Cup...I followed all your instructions as you said....

The problem started at my 3rd season...I brought some very good player for the Greek League, but using the same tactic (Juve wide) i finishd again 8th, knocked out from Greek cup first round by weaker team, and destroyed by Bursaspor at Europa League 4rth Round..(3-3Home 5-2away, and thats very weird because i used ur cautious aproach, however we conceded 8goals in two games)

4rth season Panathinaikos aproach me (thats my favourite team) and i tried to use Chealse's aproach (match preperation Attacking, balance, and cautious-counter aproach) But still not playing good...I played almost 7friendlies and i think i made a very good pre season...But 8 games now at the league i have 3wins 2draws 3losses...And i am very unhappy because i am losing from teams that i am supposed to win easily...

Yesterday, i updated my game to 12.0.4 and i want to ask you 2 things:
First, do i have to start a new game to see the tactics change's of the new patch?Or if i load and play my game (remember i started it on 12.0.3) the changes of 12.0.4 would be added to my save game?
Second, which of your tactics can be used properly to 12.0.4?

Thanks you a lot mate for your time...i apreciate a lot your work...Best regards

 

[Shiraz]

So I became bored of using my own tactic and have switched to your Man United 4-4-2 approaches

 

[Shiraz]

Hi TheBetterHalf,

Not sure if you mind but I wanted to share a tip I just figured out with everyone for an easy way of saving the tactics with the shouts implemented. After you have given the team talk and before you start the match, you implement the shouts and go to the tactics overview tab and save the tactic. It saves the tactic with the shouts added. So you can choose each approach and then add the shouts for that approach on the team talk tab, then save it. This benefits two-fold, firstly the tactic in your match prep is then exactly the same as the one you use in a match because the shouts are already added so the tactic familiarity will be full and secondly the shouts are already added so just in case you forget to add them like I do sometimes, no need to worry about that

Regards
Shiraz

Edit: Actually, it keeps being reset so nevermind

 

[me86]

Im in my 3rd season with Huddersfield and had back to back promotions to get to the prem. Ive only just seen this tactic the into Oblivion and want to give it a go with my team. Will it be a problem to input this tactic into my team when ive alreadey started the league and have not been doing well at all. Ive won the first game but been hammered the next 4 games.

The tactic looks made for the players I have with siggurdson to play amc so want to give it a try.

this tactic realey isnt working for me. Cant seem to score goals at all. When watching the highlights i always look under pressure but then seem to have more possesion stats at the end of the game. Also I keep conceding goals form long shots outside the area. Any help will be appreciated.

 

[Djibril Cisse]

@THEBETTERHALF I am Panathinaikos (think Panathinaikos, Sporting CP, Galatasaray...that kind of team and players) and i want a tactic that conceed the less the better...I dont care about scoring much i want not to conceed...And at the same time, to be competitive, based on that good defense, in the Champions League...

Witch tactic of yours would you recommend me?

@Anyone...Anyone has used a tactic like that that works?

Patch 12.2.0

 

[TheBetterHalf]

Hello Mr.Better
I apologise for my poor english...
I'd like to ask you about some things.
I was playing 12.0.3 version where i started my favourite game...I started with Ethinkos Asteras (Greek Division 2)...first season i was predicted 11th out of 18teams...And i succed to get promoted (finished 3rd) with my own tactic...Next season to National A Greek Division (predicted 16th out of 16teams ) i was struggling at the first hald of a season...playing awfull football...That was the time i found your thread and i tried to use one of your tactic...I played Juventus wide (attacking and cautious aproach, depending the opponent) and i had great result...Finished 8th ang won the Greek Cup...I followed all your instructions as you said....

The problem started at my 3rd season...I brought some very good player for the Greek League, but using the same tactic (Juve wide) i finishd again 8th, knocked out from Greek cup first round by weaker team, and destroyed by Bursaspor at Europa League 4rth Round..(3-3Home 5-2away, and thats very weird because i used ur cautious aproach, however we conceded 8goals in two games)

4rth season Panathinaikos aproach me (thats my favourite team) and i tried to use Chealse's aproach (match preperation Attacking, balance, and cautious-counter aproach) But still not playing good...I played almost 7friendlies and i think i made a very good pre season...But 8 games now at the league i have 3wins 2draws 3losses...And i am very unhappy because i am losing from teams that i am supposed to win easily...

Yesterday, i updated my game to 12.0.4 and i want to ask you 2 things:
First, do i have to start a new game to see the tactics change's of the new patch?Or if i load and play my game (remember i started it on 12.0.3) the changes of 12.0.4 would be added to my save game?
Second, which of your tactics can be used properly to 12.0.4?

Thanks you a lot mate for your time...i apreciate a lot your work...Best regards

Actually, the 2 plug & play tactics are the only one for the older patch

 

[TheBetterHalf]

this tactic realey isnt working for me. Cant seem to score goals at all. When watching the highlights i always look under pressure but then seem to have more possesion stats at the end of the game. Also I keep conceding goals form long shots outside the area. Any help will be appreciated.

Yes, that tactic is not very strong in the new patch as it was mad for 12.X etc.

 

[TheBetterHalf]

@THEBETTERHALF I am Panathinaikos (think Panathinaikos, Sporting CP, Galatasaray...that kind of team and players) and i want a tactic that conceed the less the better...I dont care about scoring much i want not to conceed...And at the same time, to be competitive, based on that good defense, in the Champions League...

Witch tactic of yours would you recommend me?

@Anyone...Anyone has used a tactic like that that works?

Patch 12.2.0

I would probably use the top team tactics. Perhaps the Arsenal 4231 or the Italian 4312 as they can be used both domestically when you are a heavy favourite and in Europe where you are the underdog

 

[TheBetterHalf]

Hi TheBetterHalf,

Not sure if you mind but I wanted to share a tip I just figured out with everyone for an easy way of saving the tactics with the shouts implemented. After you have given the team talk and before you start the match, you implement the shouts and go to the tactics overview tab and save the tactic. It saves the tactic with the shouts added. So you can choose each approach and then add the shouts for that approach on the team talk tab, then save it. This benefits two-fold, firstly the tactic in your match prep is then exactly the same as the one you use in a match because the shouts are already added so the tactic familiarity will be full and secondly the shouts are already added so just in case you forget to add them like I do sometimes, no need to worry about that

Regards
Shiraz

Edit: Actually, it keeps being reset so nevermind

yeah, its not possible to do so.