Really? You think Celtic wouldn't get promoted from the championship, and you're saying we're arrogant? Didn't Newcastle absoloutely walk it a couple of years ago?
Manchester United is one of the biggest clubs in the world in terms of global marketing and commercial value. Only Real Madrid get more revenue. Hundreds and hundreds of Millions of people watch them around the globe. Their financial and commercial value is virtually unmatched. Celtic's global marketing and commercial appeal doesn't even being to get anywhere near that. If it did you wouldnt even need to leave the SPL. You absolutely cannot compare the two. Celtics global financial appeal isnt actually all that high, at all, hence the paltry TV deals at the moment, though you are set for a bigger one, thankfully.
I'm not saying it, Deloitte (who advised Scudamore prior to the 2009 vote) are saying it.
Newcastle were an established premier league side, with money you could only dream of, and exceptionally good players for that league, **** they had very good players my PL standards, they had mostly top 6 level players. Most of the relegated side are playing today. That was the best a team has ever done at that level. They are an exception to the rule. Promotion has always been notoriously unpredictable in the Championship.
No I don't. No team is guaranteed instant promotion-why should Celtic be guaranteed instant promotion? They haven't even earned the right to be in the Championship for a start. It would be me being an Everton fan, expecting instant success in the Scottish Premiership. Obviously hypothetical-but also ludicrous and disrespectful to other clubs
I'm sure most Everton fans would expect to challenge for, if not win the SPL title.
At the "why don't you focus on improving your own league" point that keeps coming up (and answered), Celtic themselves have said NOTHING (Zero) about moving to England, and yesterday Peter Lawell backed a 14 team SPL reconstruction.
To be honest though, when it comes to Sky money I'd be worried, as Scudamore has already said that Sky could lose out to Al Jeezera when it comes to TV rights. And if in fact Sky does lose out, it will have a lot of implications. Not just for the English league, but also for Scotland
Obviously we arent as big as Manchester United but we are a lot bigger than you're making out. I made the United comparison to highlight the benefits of having a big club in the league but you obviously are still not even contemplating accepting anything other than Celtic aren't as big as Wigan because we play in Scotland. Celtic are one of the biggest clubs in the world regarding fan base, a lot bigger than most Premier League clubs. You obviously still don't realise how significant the Sky deal in England is. The Sky deal is the only thing seperating Celtic from English clubs financially. I'm sure you remember Liverpool trying to sell their TV rights individually a few months ago was unsuccessful? That's why our TV deal is so poor, it's the SPL, not Celtic.
I'm sure most Everton fans would expect to challenge for, if not win the SPL title.
At the "why don't you focus on improving your own league" point that keeps coming up (and answered), Celtic themselves have said NOTHING (Zero) about moving to England, and yesterday Peter Lawell backed a 14 team SPL reconstruction.
To be fair, I think if we do move to England we should start at the bottom like you're saying. The link in the news reports was with league one though. Most Celtic fans would be happy with a move to the bottom of the English leagues.
@Mike, Celtic's turnover last year was £52m, and that's without any Champions League/Europa League money and after a hugely unsucessful season with low attendances. Wigan's (for sake of argument) was £46m.
Like I said before though-we desert you're own league? I mean like I've said before, I'm not anti-Celtic, and I'm not anti-Rangers, but surely staying where you are and finding a way to improve you're own league would be far more beneficial? But jump ship to another country? If Celtic or Rangers jumped ship, they'd leave their own countries leagues in a far worse state? I'd hate to see that happen. Has it really come to this-purely for money?
There's a lot of hostility between Celtic and most teams in the SPL, and the SFA. That has a big influence on the wanting out of the SPL.
There's a lot of hostility between Celtic and most teams in the SPL, and the SFA. That has a big influence on the wanting out of the SPL.
I didn't mean Celtic want to leave the SPL because of the hostility, what I meant was most Celtic fans really wouldn't care about the consequences of doing so for Scottish football. Most of the other clubs fans probably would want us to leave anyway, regardless of what it means for their own club, that's how bad it is.
Then it needs to be sorted, this kind of apathy and self destructiveness gets us nowhere
also Celtic's turnover was 28.4 million? Celtic first half profits up despite drop in turnover | 14 February 2011 | Stock Market Wire
Have some interesting thoughts on celtic, will post them at some point.