The Chelsea Thread

[CJACKO11]

Yeah I wouldn't mind seeing an xmas tree maybe get Miralem Pjanic or maybe Neymar. Wouldn't be surprised if we got Kaka to play there though because of the rumours about his future and also because he was part of the xmas tree at Milan. Hope we don't get him though because I feel it would delay the use of our youngsters.

Alternatively I would like to see us play 4-3-3 again but with two new wingers who actually play on the wings, although I like Zhirkov so I wouldn't mind if we got one new winger for the right like Robben (can't see that happening though). Plus with both of these formations and players we could have Kalou/Sturridge/Anelka on the bench to play as wingers/strikers and Kakuta who could play in the xmas tree or on the wing. Think I've given up on Malouda though now as he doesn't seem to want to play well consistently.

I can see Neymar joining Chelsea, especially with the Brazilians we have already as i heard he gets on well with both Ramires and Luiz. And Kaka is a feasable option too, especially is Mourinho is still at Madrid. I think McEachran could play that 2 behind the striker, he has excellent passing ability and can strike a ball well too. Zhirkov has either been unfit or inconsistant and dont get me started on Malouda haha.

One thing that annoys me about Ashley Cole more than anythink in the world is his ******* throw ins!!! Every person who plays football in the world can take a early throw in but he waits and waits and waits every ******* time and we either give possesion away or the attack fizzels out.

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HIs Investment has failed completely, we all know Romans lacks patience.

Its been 3 months!! How has is failed??

 

[Raphael.]

Its been 3 months!! How has is failed??

He cost £50M and he hasn't scored. This is how he has failed.

 

[ajt09]

He hasn't failed. As discussed many, many times. He needs the right supply line so he can do what he does best. Simple as.

 

[CJACKO11]

He cost £50M and he hasn't scored. This is how he has failed.

So what? He is a long term investment simple as that. He isent under pressure to score at Chelsea unlike he was at Liverpool.

 

[Raphael.]

So what? He is a long term investment simple as that. He isent under pressure to score at Chelsea unlike he was at Liverpool.

He is under pressure after a £50M. Also long term investments don't usually cost £50M.

 

[Ride The Walrus]

So what? He is a long term investment simple as that. He isent under pressure to score at Chelsea unlike he was at Liverpool.

Urm...Yes, he is. He's a striker, not only that Chelsea have been poor for a couple of months now, so the pressure really is on. How many assists has he had? Every time I've seen him he's been uber-poor.

 

[Raphael.]

He hasn't failed. As discussed many, many times. He needs the right supply line so he can do what he does best. Simple as.

A poor workman always blames his tools. You cant pride yourself as one of the worlds best strikers and then blame teammates for lack of scoring.

 

[Scott]

Its been 3 months!! How has is failed??

Because he has failed to score and you are out of every Competition

He hasn't failed. As discussed many, many times. He needs the right supply line so he can do what he does best. Simple as.

When you cost 50 million, you should be able to score in a chelsea side like this one, whether they give you the perfect supply or not.

So what? He is a long term investment simple as that. He isent under pressure to score at Chelsea unlike he was at Liverpool.

Long term at 28... Nice one?

 

[CJACKO11]

He is under pressure after a £50M. Also long term investments don't usually cost £50M.

Roman spent 50million because he can spend that much simple as that. I dont know many Chelsea fans who expected him to hit the ground running. This signing was for the longer term simple as that.

Urm...Yes, he is. He's a striker, not only that Chelsea have been poor for a couple of months now, so the pressure really is on. How many assists has he had? Every time I've seen him he's been uber-poor.

Chelsea have been ok since he joined, not vintage Chelsea but we havent been since October so thats not his fault. His general play has been very good simple as that and take it from someone who has watched every minute he has played in a Chelsea shirt.

 

[ChrisBird]

Urm...Yes, he is. He's a striker, not only that Chelsea have been poor for a couple of months now, so the pressure really is on. How many assists has he had? Every time I've seen him he's been uber-poor.

You haven't been watching him much, have you? He hasn't been uber-poor, although last night he was really poor. ATM he's lacking a composed finish and also somebody to supply him with more chances (Benayoun).

I can see Neymar joining Chelsea, especially with the Brazilians we have already as i heard he gets on well with both Ramires and Luiz. And Kaka is a feasable option too, especially is Mourinho is still at Madrid. I think McEachran could play that 2 behind the striker, he has excellent passing ability and can strike a ball well too. Zhirkov has either been unfit or inconsistant and dont get me started on Malouda haha.

One thing that annoys me about Ashley Cole more than anythink in the world is his ******* throw ins!!! Every person who plays football in the world can take a early throw in but he waits and waits and waits every ******* time and we either give possesion away or the attack fizzels out.

Yeah I think McEachran will be capable of playing there. I think he'll either play there or as a deep-lying playmaker.

Yeah Cole's always doing that when we could go up on the attack and have scored by the time he's taken the throw.

 

[CJACKO11]

Because he has failed to score and you are out of every Competition

When you cost 50 million, you should be able to score in a chelsea side like this one, whether they give you the perfect supply or not.

Long term at 28... Nice one?

We were out the League Cup, FA Cup and arguably the PL before he even joined us so that logic is flawed massivly. He is more long term than both Anelka-32 and Drogba-33 isent he. And just because he cost 50million that dosent mean he should score. Like i said his performances have been pretty decent, he is under no pressure to score goals because he is not relied upon at Chelsea unlike he was at Liverpool. Chelsea also play a different brand of football so the team and him are all learning. Like i said many times these signings normally take place in the summer and there is a reason for this.

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A poor workman always blames his tools. You cant pride yourself as one of the worlds best strikers and then blame teammates for lack of scoring.

You can when it comes to football. Torres is not a Rooney/Drogba type player that can make a chance for himself out of nothing. He relies on his teammates to feed him in simple as that.

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You haven't been watching him much, have you? He hasn't been uber-poor, although last night he was really poor. ATM he's lacking a composed finish and also somebody to supply him with more chances (Benayoun).




Yeah I think McEachran will be capable of playing there. I think he'll either play there or as a deep-lying playmaker.

Yeah Cole's always doing that when we could go up on the attack and have scored by the time he's taken the throw.

If Ancelotti stays then i expect McEachran to take up a Pirlo deep lying role.

 

[Raphael.]

We were out the League Cup, FA Cup and arguably the PL before he even joined us so that logic is flawed massivly. He is more long term than both Anelka-32 and Drogba-33 isent he. And just because he cost 50million that dosent mean he should score. Like i said his performances have been pretty decent, he is under no pressure to score goals because he is not relied upon at Chelsea unlike he was at Liverpool. Chelsea also play a different brand of football so the team and him are all learning. Like i said many times these signings normally take place in the summer and there is a reason for this.

It kinda does. 1st of all he is a striker so there should be an element of goals. Also yes he does have to score due to that price. I'm sorry but only stubborn die-hards like you feel like this really. He costs £50M he is a striker he should score end of.

He has been **** poor sorry. At least maybe if he has made some chances or got some assists but he has done none of this. Also he is under pressure more so considering a) he cost £50M, b) you are being knocked out of competitions left right and center and really you should be winning c) roman is an impatient man and he deserves to be after how much he has invested.

A signing should mould and adapt to a team, not a team to one player.

 

[Ben]

Fernando Torres is not worth 50 million, 35 at a push. He's a striker who relies on everything being right for him (the line striker role, good supply, good form, fitness etc..) and not one of those is going for him at the moment. Chelsea just bought him expecting him and Drogba to be this lethal partnership which was never going to happen, and never will happen.

I also cannot believe Chelsea fans want Malouda sold when a few of them were saying he was the best left-winger in the world, better than Gareth Bale a couple of months back...

 

[Scott]

We were out the League Cup, FA Cup and arguably the PL before he even joined us so that logic is flawed massivly. He is more long term than both Anelka-32 and Drogba-33 isent he. And just because he cost 50million that dosent mean he should score. Like i said his performances have been pretty decent, he is under no pressure to score goals because he is not relied upon at Chelsea unlike he was at Liverpool. Chelsea also play a different brand of football so the team and him are all learning. Like i said many times these signings normally take place in the summer and there is a reason for this.

You where the on syaing when you beat us at the Bridge you where still in with a shout....

You are now out of Europe because of this investment, and you say he is long term, if he was long term, surely your short term striker Drogba would of started against Us... No? When you spend 50million on a player you expect a return, not someone to go 10 games or something without a goal, and in most of them games a sniff of a goal.

Just because he is younger then 2 aging stars, doesnt make him long term, that is like me saying Park is long term because he is younger then Giggs, when Park is in his Prime and for the now...

 

[CJACKO11]

It kinda does. 1st of all he is a striker so there should be an element of goals. Also yes he does have to score due to that price. I'm sorry but only stubborn die-hards like you feel like this really. He costs £50M he is a striker he should score end of.

He has been **** poor sorry. At least maybe if he has made some chances or got some assists but he has done none of this. Also he is under pressure more so considering a) he cost £50M, b) you are being knocked out of competitions left right and center and really you should be winning c) roman is an impatient man and he deserves to be after how much he has invested.

A signing should mould and adapt to a team, not a team to one player.

The fee of the player dosent determine that he should score or not. If someone forked out 50million for a centre back im sure he would get beaten still. If someone forked out 50million for a keeper im sure he would still concede goals. Like i say you havent watched every minute he has played so to say he has been **** poor after watching a few minute highlights on Match of the day so your point is not great. He might be under pressure by the media and opposition fans but he is not under pressure by his manager, teammates or fans and they are the only people that matter. If he wasent playing well then i would have a problem with him but he is playing well, and Roman is impatient with managers not players. He signed Torres for next season onwards. People are making much more of this then they should.

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Fernando Torres is not worth 50 million, 35 at a push. He's a striker who relies on everything being right for him (the line striker role, good supply, good form, fitness etc..) and not one of those is going for him at the moment. Chelsea just bought him expecting him and Drogba to be this lethal partnership which was never going to happen, and never will happen.

I also cannot believe Chelsea fans want Malouda sold when a few of them were saying he was the best left-winger in the world, better than Gareth Bale a couple of months back...

I think you find that "couple of months back" was last season and we were right to say that at the time. His Chelsea career on a whole has been poor simple as that.

You where the on syaing when you beat us at the Bridge you where still in with a shout....

You are now out of Europe because of this investment, and you say he is long term, if he was long term, surely your short term striker Drogba would of started against Us... No? When you spend 50million on a player you expect a return, not someone to go 10 games or something without a goal, and in most of them games a sniff of a goal.

Just because he is younger then 2 aging stars, doesnt make him long term, that is like me saying Park is long term because he is younger then Giggs, when Park is in his Prime and for the now...

Of corse we were in with a shout and even Ancelotti has said he made a mistake in starting Torres. I believe im saying Drogba and Anelka both have gone nearly the same ammount of games without scoring so wheres your critisism about them two??

 

[Scott]

Of corse we were in with a shout and even Ancelotti has said he made a mistake in starting Torres. I believe im saying Drogba and Anelka both have gone nearly the same ammount of games without scoring so wheres your critisism about them two??

Drogba scored last night.................. And neither cost 50million in the Summer.

 

[CJACKO11]

Drogba scored last night.................. And neither cost 50million in the Summer.

Before last night Drogba had scored 1 goal in 13 games. He cost 24million and has has a huge reputation for being a goalscorer. Where is your critisism of him then?

 

[Scott]

Before last night Drogba had scored 1 goal in 13 games. He cost 24million and has has a huge reputation for being a goalscorer. Where is your critisism of him then?

24million 5 years ago mate.... Think about what you are saying please.

 

[CJACKO11]

24million 5 years ago mate.... Think about what you are saying please.

But its his reputation surely. I would say and have always said that Drogba is better than Torres. Plus Drogba knows Chelsea's system and dosent have to get used to new facilities and teammates etc. I would say Drogba deserves more flack than Torres.

 

[Scott]

But its his reputation surely. I would say and have always said that Drogba is better than Torres. Plus Drogba knows Chelsea's system and dosent have to get used to new facilities and teammates etc. I would say Drogba deserves more flack than Torres.

I would also say Drogba is 5 years older, Aging more and more each day, Clearly doesnt want to be at Chelsea anymore, by his who attidude and the fact this is the club Torres wanted to be at, yet he looks as Miserable as anything, not scoring goals and playing total wank, no matter what you claim, i havent seen a good full 90 minutes from him in an chelsea shirt yet.