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You are forgetting how good Cole really is. Not many left backs in the world are better than Cole so no matter who replaces him they wont be as good will they. But as PVA is only 20 he will get better but he needs a big run of games and trust in him to get better.

exactly THAT. and if Coentrao has the potential of being that good or EVEN better, then 30 mil is nothing brother. we are a team which is fighting every season for everything, and if Roman is so impatient, either he will have to pay it or look how PVA is ruining our season. period.
 
exactly THAT. and if Coentrao has the potential of being that good or EVEN better, then 30 mil is nothing brother. we are a team which is fighting every season for everything, and if Roman is so impatient, either he will have to pay it or look how PVA is ruining our season. period.


tbh BlueHeart, i really cant see Cole leaving this club this summer anyways so this discussion is pretty pointless
 
exactly THAT. and if Coentrao has the potential of being that good or EVEN better, then 30 mil is nothing brother. we are a team which is fighting every season for everything, and if Roman is so impatient, either he will have to pay it or look how PVA is ruining our season. period.

Thats pretty harsh, if we are having a bad season it wont just be down to one player that is very harsh. There is no point splashing out 30mill+ for a player that might not be better Cole if we already have 2 players who might not be better than Cole and count as home grown. Your lack of faith in PVA suprises me alot, infact your the only Chelsea supporter i have spoken too that actually dosent rate him.
 
tbh BlueHeart, i really cant see Cole leaving this club this summer anyways so this discussion is pretty pointless

hope youre right. dont wanna lose him. :)

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Thats pretty harsh, if we are having a bad season it wont just be down to one player that is very harsh. There is no point splashing out 30mill+ for a player that might not be better Cole if we already have 2 players who might not be better than Cole and count as home grown. Your lack of faith in PVA suprises me alot, infact your the only Chelsea supporter i have spoken too that actually dosent rate him.


i rate him a lot NOW, but I CANT see him becoming as good as Cole. REALLY. well we see. pointless discussion indeed, i was just curious whataya guys think :)
 
hope youre right. dont wanna lose him. :)

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i rate him a lot NOW, but I CANT see him becoming as good as Cole. REALLY. well we see. pointless discussion indeed, i was just curious whataya guys think :)

There is a massive chance he wont become as good as Cole but that wont be because PVA is ****. That will be because of how good Cole is/was. Cole for all his off the field **** will go down as proberly the best English left-back of all time and maybe the most decorated. The man has won the most FA Cups as a player and is Englands most capped full-back and has 2-3 years to add too that. We either splash out 30mill for a player that proberly wont be as good as Cole or we use what we got which also proberly wont be as good as Cole.
 
There is a massive chance he wont become as good as Cole but that wont be because PVA is ****. That will be because of how good Cole is/was. Cole for all his off the field **** will go down as proberly the best English left-back of all time and maybe the most decorated. The man has won the most FA Cups as a player and is Englands most capped full-back and has 2-3 years to add too that. We either splash out 30mill for a player that proberly wont be as good as Cole or we use what we got which also proberly wont be as good as Cole.

exactly right, and this is the reason that has to motivate us to find a worthy world-class replacement, dont you think?
 
exactly right, and this is the reason that has to motivate us to find a worthy world-class replacement, dont you think?

But who is worthy?? No-one in my eyes, there are alot more possitives to give PVA or Bertrand a chance to take his spot then to splash out more money on a position we already have 2 decent young players in.
 
But who is worthy?? No-one in my eyes, there are alot more possitives to give PVA or Bertrand a chance to take his spot then to splash out more money on a position we already have 2 decent young players in.

we will see :)
 
But who is worthy?? No-one in my eyes, there are alot more possitives to give PVA or Bertrand a chance to take his spot then to splash out more money on a position we already have 2 decent young players in.

Agree with you on this. whats the point in having players like McEachran, Sturridge, PVA if you are just gonna buy players in front of them
 
Agree with you on this. whats the point in having players like McEachran, Sturridge, PVA if you are just gonna buy players in front of them

you have GK's but you buy DE GEA and VDS ? omg be real dude.
 
i rate him a lot NOW, but I CANT see him becoming as good as Cole. REALLY. well we see. pointless discussion indeed, i was just curious whataya guys think :)

You obviously don't rate him a lot from what you've been saying. I can't see many left backs being better than Cole, there's some players you just can't replace - because they're that good. Ashley Cole is [IMO] the best ever English left back and one of the best ever in the world we'll struggle to replace him with somebody who is as good or better than him, whether that's PvA or Coentrão. I rate PvA very highly and I think he is definitely good enough to be our left back after Cole, he won't be as good as him IMO, but like I say Cole is an amazing player. And remember every player is inexperienced at some point so if he's given some games or a loan (which I'd rather avoid) then he can gain some experience and be ready for first-team football.
 
you have GK's but you buy DE GEA and VDS ? omg be real dude.

Because they aren't good enough. We go on about how good McEachran, Sturridge, Bruma and PvA are, but it's all pointless if we buy players who will be ahead of them in the pecking order.
 
you have GK's but you buy DE GEA and VDS ? omg be real dude.

what a nonsensical post. De Gea is 20 and has to potential to world class, that cannot be said about our other keepers. And VDS is retiring

On the other hand, PVA has the potential to be very good, and McEachran and Sturridge have the potential to be top class,

Try again

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Because they aren't good enough. We go on about how good McEachran, Sturridge, Bruma and PvA are, but it's all pointless if we buy players who will be ahead of them in the pecking order.

My point exactly. Why spend 35m on neymar when you have sturridge. I'd happily have him at united
 
De Gea is replacing VDS btw, and the other goalkeepers are not good enough to be #1.

Because they aren't good enough. We go on about how good McEachran, Sturridge, Bruma and PvA are, but it's all pointless if we buy players who will be ahead of them in the pecking order.

and we are discussing what now? isnt THAT the reason why im saying we should find world-class replacement for our WORLD CLASS LB? think about it.
and im done discussing PVA, cuz you know one, i know another.
 
and we are discussing what now? isnt THAT the reason why im saying we should find world-class replacement for our WORLD CLASS LB? think about it.
and im done discussing PVA, cuz you know one, i know another.

But we've already tested the back up goalkeepers excluding Lindegaard who was injured to find out if they are good enough. While PVA and Bertrand have barely played for Chelsea and the latter has barely played any club football in the past 6 months. Chelsea need to try out these two players before spending £30m on someone.
 
and we are discussing what now? isnt THAT the reason why im saying we should find world-class replacement for our WORLD CLASS LB? think about it.
and im done discussing PVA, cuz you know one, i know another.

PvA can be a world class LB! But it's very unlikely he'll be better than Cole because he is one of the best EVER LBs.
 
Agree with you on this. whats the point in having players like McEachran, Sturridge, PVA if you are just gonna buy players in front of them

I've been saying this for SO long. But every time I say it, I get knocked back and Chelsea fans say they'd rather spend lots of money and have success immediately and essentially ignore those players (See posts saying: "I want Modric/Neymar/Pastore/Insert random European name here").

Same with Modric interest - McEachran has the chance to be a top class player, but he won't if Modric commands a big transfer fee and the manager feels he has to play him. Just like Sturridge didn't get a chance at Chelsea because Torres was brought in, out of form, and Ancelotti desperately tried to fit him - like a square peg in a round hole - because he cost £50m and it would look silly if he just dropped him.

Yes, McEachran probably needs a loan to reach his potential quicker, but he also needs games at Chelsea. I can easily see him breaking through like Wilshere did for us, but not if they sign Modric.

you have GK's but you buy DE GEA and VDS ? omg be real dude.

On yer bike, son.
 
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