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4 pulls there in the space of 2 seconds, one of which he has a handful of Salah's shirt. Im sorry but its a foul any day of the week. Salah goes down easy yes, but its still a foul.
 
Stayed on his feet, went for the ball, soon as he couldnt he gave the ref no choice to call the pull. Its both. He got pulled, he still flopped like a fish lol.
 
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4 pulls there in the space of 2 seconds, one of which he has a handful of Salah's shirt. Im sorry but its a foul any day of the week. Salah goes down easy yes, but its still a foul.
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1. Not a pull - Watch the clip >>> https://streamable.com/iu5xho It was "high five" from both players.
2. Salah puts his hand on Dias' before Dias puts his hand on Salah. Watch the clip above. And Diaz missed the shirt, but he did go for it, I'll give you that.
3. Same as #2
4. Dias didn't grab Salah, his palm was open and if that was so strong that Salah had to dive then Dias should quit football and join the Arm Wrestling Championship, thats one strong forearm.

Nice try though! >>>> https://streamable.com/iu5xho
 
wkdsoul said:
Stayed on his feet, went for the ball, soon as he couldnt he gave the ref no choice to call the pull. Its both. He got pulled, he still flopped like a fish lol.
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A succinct microcosm of most all of this nonsense week in, week out.

And there, again, is the crux of it all. If officials would do their job properly to start with, players wouldn't have to accentuate blatant fouls/ impediments against them.

If they don't, they don't get the free-kick/ penalty and the offender gets away scot-free. They do, and people madly scream 'DIVER!' Completely ignoring the blatant offence against them. They are literally damned if they do, damned if they don't.

If folk can't tell the difference between players having to sell the foul against them to get any justice from it, as opposed to a player who either goes down untouched or initiates their own contact to try deceive the officials, then that's either their base ignorance. Or they have a blatant agenda against a particular player. (See the blatantly racist, xenophobic English football media who slam those dirty foreigners like Salah as diving and ruing our game. But when it comes to a good old Englishman like a Kane, he's savvy and streetwise.). You can't call someone a 'diver' who is legit fouled in the first place but isn't getting the decision unless he accentuates the foul.

And they then go after the COMPLETELY wrong target. Which shouldn't be the players. But the officiating. Or rather P poor lack thereof which has brought this around. Players shouldn't be placed in this position but they are weekly by incompetent officiating.

To not acknowledge that is to both not understand how today's game is and not understand the rules and how badly they are implemented by the officials.
 
Dont get me wrong i'd be all for calling him a diving **** (as he normally is) if we hadnt have slapped another 3 in.
 
Which is what most all fans and the media selectively do and just adds to the problem in letting the officials off scot-free for their base incompetence.

To use two glaring examples from Sunday's match alone, most every game Salah and Sterling get kicked and pulled all over the place. Neither are divers and the majority of the time they try to stay on their feet as they want to do is score or create. But the moment they go down 'easily' to accentuate the continued offence against them, they are ridiculously branded 'divers.' And the more opposition idiots throw that around on SM, and the more the blatantly racist, xenophobic media adds to it (Those 'coloured/ dirty Arabs/ insert any bigoted reason diving AGAIN! Ruining our game they are!' Flip to a Harry Kane ..... That's just a savvy white Englishman doing what he has to get a decision for his team. He's just good at gamesmanship/ streetwise/ insert any other B/S reason to excuse one and condemn the other), the more the B/S narrative sticks. Neither are divers. But they get branded such by lazy, ignorant folk pushing separate agendas and it sticks.

It's totally F up and ultimately slanders the wrong people. The P poor officiating is the issue. But that doesn't generate clicks/ suit the internet trolls like calling a star player a 'diver' does.
 
I saw no dive but then neither was the shirt pulled (look at his shirt it doesn't even move which it would if the City player had pulled it or even touched it), however, I did see a very theatrical fall flat on to the seat of his shorts when the ball got too far away. Dive no but attempted simulation to get the ref's attention maybe. As for the tugs of the arm that happens all the time when two players are going for the same ball.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Which is what most all fans and the media selectively do and just adds to the problem in letting the officials off scot-free for their base incompetence.

To use two glaring examples from Sunday's match alone, most every game Salah and Sterling get kicked and pulled all over the place. Neither are divers and the majority of the time they try to stay on their feet as they want to do is score or create. But the moment they go down 'easily' to accentuate the continued offence against them, they are ridiculously branded 'divers.' And the more opposition idiots throw that around on SM, and the more the blatantly racist, xenophobic media adds to it (Those 'coloured/ dirty Arabs/ insert any bigoted reason diving AGAIN! Ruining our game they are!' Flip to a Harry Kane ..... That's just a savvy white Englishman doing what he has to get a decision for his team. He's just good at gamesmanship/ streetwise/ insert any other B/S reason to excuse one and condemn the other), the more the B/S narrative sticks. Neither are divers. But they get branded such by lazy, ignorant folk pushing separate agendas and it sticks.

It's totally F up and ultimately slanders the wrong people. The P poor officiating is the issue. But that doesn't generate clicks/ suit the internet trolls like calling a star player a 'diver' does.
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If it makes you any better Harry Kane is the worst diver in the Premier League. Salah is probably third with second place also belonging to Harry Kane.

Also, this is not a proof of anything, but it still gives you some perspective:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1358710090409345024
 
Vanjagl said:
1. Not a pull - Watch the clip >>> https://streamable.com/iu5xho It was "high five" from both players.
2. Salah puts his hand on Dias' before Dias puts his hand on Salah. Watch the clip above. And Diaz missed the shirt, but he did go for it, I'll give you that.
3. Same as #2
4. Dias didn't grab Salah, his palm was open and if that was so strong that Salah had to dive then Dias should quit football and join the Arm Wrestling Championship, thats one strong forearm.

Nice try though! >>>> https://streamable.com/iu5xho
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Through none of these did Dias make an attempt to play the ball. And thats a foul.
 
Vanjagl said:
If it makes you any better Harry Kane is the worst diver in the Premier League. Salah is probably third with second place also belonging to Harry Kane.

Also, this is not a proof of anything, but it still gives you some perspective:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1358710090409345024
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No. It adds to your blatant agenda. And is making you look more petty by the post.

You madly started chatting utter ***** on a clear penalty and have just dug this hole for yourself deeper and deeper as you vainly try to keep this ridiculous line up.
 
iamauser said:
Through none of these did Dias make an attempt to play the ball. And thats a foul.
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Utterly mad this isn’t it?

Of ALL the things to pick out from Sunday, a clear penalty the nobody has complained about until now is the very LAST one you’d think anyone would nark about.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
No. It adds to your blatant agenda. And is making you look more petty by the post.

You madly started chatting utter ***** on a clear penalty and have just dug this hole for yourself deeper and deeper as you vainly try to keep this ridiculous line up.
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I think you forgot picture of an animal.


iamauser said:
Through none of these did Dias make an attempt to play the ball. And thats a foul.
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Like I said, it goes both ways. So if Dias touching Salah can't be categorized as a 'attempt to play the ball', then Salah touching Dias surely has to be a foul because he's not attemping to play the ball? Or is it completely different?
Anyway, feel free to PM if you want to continue this, I think we clogged the thread enough.
 
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