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You really need to pay more attention to what's actually happening there mate with Naby in all aspects. And you really need to let the 'availibity' thing go as, bar the Pogba assault, the dedicated , expert one-on-one work they've put in with him when they held him back last season has paid massive dividends this year in the healthiest he's been his whole time here.

Related aside, one of our worst performing midfielders this season has been the captain who has been in the Ox category for much of the last 8 months. Keïta's performances have regualrly surpassed the pair of them.
 
You really need to pay more attention to what's actually happening there mate with Naby in all aspects. And you really need to let the 'availibity' thing go as, bar the Pogba assault, the dedicated , expert one-on-one work they've put in with him when they held him back last season has paid massive dividends this year in the healthiest he's been his whole time here.

Related aside, one of our worst performing midfielders this season has been the captain who has been in the Ox category for much of the last 8 months. Keïta's performances have regualrly surpassed the pair of them.

I mean Hendo is slowing down but he ain't been that bad. I just don't see what you see in Keita at all, he has improved but he just isn't the same player we expected from Leipzig. For the money, we paid he has been meh at best, and ill be surprised if he is still here past his current contract. Rather replace him and develop our own in Curtis and Elliot than persist with him personally. Wages are too high for a squad player that's why I said it's either him or ox on the chopping block come summer.
 
I mean Hendo is slowing down but he ain't been that bad. .....

He's been better lately but he's had a really poor season in the main. That one isn't up for debate mate.

And by 'poor', I mean bang average by his own high standards with some shockers in there.

The only guaranteed starters, if there is such a thing when everyone's fit, are Fabinho and Thiago for me. The other is completely interchangeable dependent on the opposition/ fatigue etc. And you wouldn't have said that of Henderson going into this season. The drop off from him this year has been sudden and stark.

...... I just don't see what you see in Keita at all, he has improved but he just isn't the same player we expected from Leipzig. .....

I was leaving this but that right there is one of the biggest things you're missing if you are still expecting that. Like when we signed Wijnaldum as an attacking 10 and completely redefined his position, we've done the same with Naby this year into that Gini role. You aren't going to get the RBL two-way player that was so unique analytically. But what you now get is a proper Klopp midfielder who does everything Gini did in his discipline for the team in winning it and keeping it simple. Whilst still having the eye for the killer forward ball/ ability to get forward himself and add goals far more than Gini.

I wish you could get to see things live and see the amount of ridiculous off the ball work he does that the small screen misses in that regard as you'd see just how similar to Gini he's become in allowing everyone else to play.

I'll leave this as it's just different views on the same player going nowhere fast.🍻 But you are way off the mark mate if you think he's going anywhere. Klopp loves him. This is why they have been so patient in developing him to what they want and in fixing his core health issues by literally bringing in Germany's top muscle/ rehab specialist to, initially, specifically work full-time one-on-one with him.

All that patience is now bearing fruit.
 
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Love me some future-proofing.

Future-proofing with a Scottish lineage .....😍

 
I turned it on just as Gallagher was cutting it back and Palace nearly scored at the end. Nearly gave me a heart attack.

That was one LONG second half.

The stats belie it mate as you didn’t see it, but Palace worked their bollocks off with an excellent game plan and had chances/was a threat themselves when they had the ball.

I actually had Vieira down to be one of the first binned this season but he's done an excellent job completely reducing how they play from Hodgson's bollocks to now being a genuine attacking threat that is fun to watch. And doing it with a proper youth movement too. Super first season how he's transformed them.
 
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Similar to the inter game. Teams match our intensity for 20 mins or a half but still get nowhere. Then bam up the tempo and two knockouts punches and then control the tempo for the rest of the game. This team is functioning at elite levels.
 
@dilakh2

Forgot to mention bud that yer 'mate' had a great game at RB for Palace pocketing Grealish. :cool:
Refs spent pre season looking at more than half the fouls committed by grealish and noticed wait a min he collides into the other player for most of them. **** fixing VAR atleast they solved that diving twits "fouls".
 
Similar to the inter game. Teams match our intensity for 20 mins or a half but still get nowhere. Then bam up the tempo and two knockouts punches and then control the tempo for the rest of the game. This team is functioning at elite levels.

More on that in a mo .....

Literally the first time I've had to myself today to post on last night-

Today's/ Yesterday's Admin-

Title Countdown:
21 wins down/ 9 to go.
69 points down/ 26 to go.

City-
P 29 PTS 70 F 68 A 18 GD +50
Liverpool-
P 29 PTS 69 F 75 A 20 GD +55

Current Unbeaten League Run-
10 games: W 9 D 1 F 25 A 4 CS: 7.

What another absolutely boss night out with Jürgen's Red Army. Taking the P in 'that there London.' AGAIN!!!!!

The absolute World Class, other-worldly ELITE levels this team is purring at is mind boggling. 9 straight wins in the league and counting now. And if we win out, which, as we currently stand, is the objective to top City's equally stupendous, unseen levels, it would take that winning run to 18 successive games. Think about that for a moment ..... having to win 18 straight games to win a league. That would equal our and City's English top flight record of consecutive victories. That's proper mental!!!!!

Two conversations related to that said it all yesterday. One before the game with a couple from Cheltenham of all places who were in London overnight before going onto Paris today for the rugby the weekend. And overhearing Arsenal fans on the tube after. The former was a Chelsea fan who basically said he didn't know how, as much as they are improving, they could ever get up to the levels of ourselves and City now the bars been raised to the abnormal levels it has and 95 points being the target to just be in with a chance of the title?! (Which was ironic giving all the ridiculous cry arsing across SM in the summer about how much stronger Chelsea's squad was perceived to be. But I digress ..... ) And the latter saying the same that as much as they're improving with Lego Heads youth movement at Arsenal, they just don't see how they ever get back to challenging so long as Klopp and Guardiola are having their own personal title fight season-on-season pushing each others clubs to levels never before witnessed in English football?

It's just madness when you stop and think about the off the charts consistency of these two teams. And you can't criticise either who finish runner-up to each other in whatever season. You jut have to tip your hat to both and say in whatever season, whoever comes out on top was that smidgen better and fair F's to them. I firmly believe, as I have from the '18/'19 vibe that was coming out of the Austrian mountains in the summer, that we'll win this thing. And I still firmly believe we're making history with all 4. But even if we only come out of this with a League Cup come May, it won't be a time to be downbeat and angry. I mean how can you possibly be when, if we beat Forest Sunday, we'll be going into APRIL still seriously involved in EVERY competition we've entered. This is generational stuff rarely ever seen before in England. And never form ourselves. The closest I can think is '86 when we did the double and lost in the semi's of the league cup. But down to the ban we had no Europe. Or maybe the first treble winning season in '84. But we were out of the FA Cup early that year. Unprecedented stuff where you just have to relish every single second because it will NEVER get better than this.

Absolutely superb, gigantic win last night. After a nondescript first half in horrid conditions where we couldn't get a grip in midfield. (Side note- The Emirates is utter ***** in the rain. Leaking roof and rain that was comically, and aptly, described by one lad as 'Inside rain.' Talk about being weather battered! So F knows what it felt like playing in it?). To an absolutely outstanding second half display of true champion quality to pile the pressure even more on City.

And just how demoralising must it be for them, and every team we have left to play, to see that first half thinking 'L'pool might drop here yanno'. The pressure's getting to them!' ..... To then watching the levels fly up and Arsenal get volleyed all over the second period. Oh yeah, and then see the first goalscorer and Díaz taken off for the small matter of the best player in the World, and Bobby F Firmino, coming on to restore the 'original' best in Europe front 3! Talk about killing the oppo's hopes right there!

What a special, SPECIAL team this is. And what a historic, SPECIAL season this is fixing to be.

Absolute time of our lives. Relish it boys and girls. Whatever happens. THIS is what football support is ALL about.

Up the mighty, MIGHTY Reds!
 
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And GTFI Villarreal!!!!!!

No worries about a nightmare trip to Turin that I'm 99% I wouldn't of even done the day trip on after the last time. There comes a point when your own personal safety has to take priority!
 
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