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Ian Ayre now having his say.
Liverpool Managing Director Ian Ayre has today released the following statement.

"We are extremely disappointed Luis Suarez did not shake hands with Patrice Evra before yesterday's game. The player had told us beforehand that he would, but then chose not to do so.
"He was wrong to mislead us and wrong not to offer his hand to Patrice Evra. He has not only let himself down, but also Kenny Dalglish, his teammates and the Club. It has been made absolutely clear to Luis Suarez that his behaviour was not acceptable.
"Luis Suarez has now apologised for his actions which was the right thing to do. However, all of us have a duty to behave in a responsible manner and we hope that he now understands what is expected of anyone representing Liverpool Football Club."

Christ sake, you support him for months since the original incident, then a decision which should be Suarez's, and only Suarez's, you call him out on it. **** you, Ayre.
 
Liverpool's managing director, Ian Ayre, also responded to the controversy, releasing a statement of his own.

"We are extremely disappointed Luis Suárez did not shake hands with Patrice Evra before yesterday's game," he said. "The player had told us beforehand that he would, but then chose not to do so.


"He was wrong to mislead us and wrong not to offer his hand to Patrice Evra. He has not only let himself down, but also Kenny Dalglish, his team-mates and the club. It has been made absolutely clear to Luis Suárez that his behaviour was not acceptable.
"Luis Suárez has now apologised for his actions which was the right thing to do. However, all of us have a duty to behave in a responsible manner and we hope that he now understands what is expected of anyone representing Liverpool Football Club."
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Good to see him apologizing and few important members of the club having a word. Suarez is ready to put all this behind and move on, even Evra too, so should fans.
 
Ride The Walrus said:
Ian Ayre now having his say.
Liverpool Managing Director Ian Ayre has today released the following statement.

"We are extremely disappointed Luis Suarez did not shake hands with Patrice Evra before yesterday's game. The player had told us beforehand that he would, but then chose not to do so.
"He was wrong to mislead us and wrong not to offer his hand to Patrice Evra. He has not only let himself down, but also Kenny Dalglish, his teammates and the Club. It has been made absolutely clear to Luis Suarez that his behaviour was not acceptable.
"Luis Suarez has now apologised for his actions which was the right thing to do. However, all of us have a duty to behave in a responsible manner and we hope that he now understands what is expected of anyone representing Liverpool Football Club."

Christ sake, you support him for months since the original incident, then a decision which should be Suarez's, and only Suarez's, you call him out on it. **** you, Ayre.
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It should of been made clear to Suarez that his behaviour was unacceptable when the FA found him "Probably Guilty" of racial abuse.
 
Tezzz said:
Luis Suarez Patrice Evra Handshake Incident 11/02/12 - YouTube

How about this one? Clearly shows Evras hand wasn't going to shake Suarez', to which Luis thought **** you I'm not looking the idiot and carried on. At which point Evra has a little cry looking directly at the sky camera. Great victim card played by Evra, truly fantastic actor.

Just looking at the video again and you can even see Suarez' hand height is normal for the shake, but Evras hand just isn't there.
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#grabbingatstraws
#alwaysthevictims

As you can see, he's apologised now, making your totally deluded attempt to blame Evra null and void.
 
Ride The Walrus said:
Ian Ayre now having his say.
Liverpool Managing Director Ian Ayre has today released the following statement.

"We are extremely disappointed Luis Suarez did not shake hands with Patrice Evra before yesterday's game. The player had told us beforehand that he would, but then chose not to do so.
"He was wrong to mislead us and wrong not to offer his hand to Patrice Evra. He has not only let himself down, but also Kenny Dalglish, his teammates and the Club. It has been made absolutely clear to Luis Suarez that his behaviour was not acceptable.
"Luis Suarez has now apologised for his actions which was the right thing to do. However, all of us have a duty to behave in a responsible manner and we hope that he now understands what is expected of anyone representing Liverpool Football Club."

Christ sake, you support him for months since the original incident, then a decision which should be Suarez's, and only Suarez's, you call him out on it. **** you, Ayre.
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That's the important bit right there, it wasn't a "decision he as he was walking onto the pitch", it was something he said he'd do, which he then went back on. The whole point of it was to be a symbolic gesture of getting on with it, putting that event behind him, which he obviously agreed to, according to the MD of his club. It's quite embarrassing enough that Liverpool are seen to support this guy, which I think most people accept is guilty at this point, even if the LFC bubble does not - but when he goes back on his word again, of course it's going to kick off. The media were looking for something like this and Suarez gave it to him.

I personally think Ayre did the right thing by trying to get Liverpool back to what it does best, play football and run as one of the big clubs in the country. But this whole foul taste just screams "Liverpool tolerates this guy doing what he wants as he's a good player". Christ, your own staff asked him what he wanted, he told them, they told the Man Utd staff, who told Evra, and he went back on it on match day. Is it so hard to understand there is no conspiracy and he is just being a bit of a tool? If someone does something wrong, you arn't being a loyal fan by not calling him out on it just because he wears the same shirt as you do.
 
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Well played Ian Ayre. Finally some sense from the club. Imagine the owners are quite ****** at the whole club for allowing it to get to this point.
 
CJ said:
You cannot genuinely believe that can you? Unbelievable. You can see Evra's hand was raising up towards Suarez but Suarez's hand never made any movement towards Evra. Its absolutely unreal that Liverpool fans have managed to try and blame this on Evra (again). Always the victims aren't you? No doubt that this is the medias fault as well isn't it?
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Wouldn't be a CJ post without some good ol' generalisation, would it?
 
Liverpool Manager Kenny Dalglish today insisted Luis Suarez is right to apologise for failing to shake Patrice Evra's hand at Old Trafford.

"Ian Ayre has made the Club's position absolutely clear and it is right that Luis Suarez has now apologised for what happened at Old Trafford," said Dalglish.
"To be honest, I was shocked to hear that the player had not shaken hands having been told earlier in the week that he would do.
"But as Ian said earlier, all of us have a responsibility to represent this Club in a fit and proper manner and that applies equally to me as Liverpool Manager.
"When I went on TV after yesterday's game I hadn't seen what had happened, but I did not conduct myself in a way befitting of a Liverpool Manager during that interview and I'd like to apologise for that."

- Starting to put the saga behind us now. Evra should be apologised to personally as well, though.
 
Ride The Walrus said:
Looks like the owners are making all of this happen. This is a huge mess.
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Could and should have been avoided, as I posted when I replied to LFCmarshall, forget Evra or United, Suarez let Dalglish and the club down. SAFs comments were well over the top but he was right with the sentiment, club deserved better after all the support they gave him. And he put Dalglish in a terrible position after this
 
good that he apologised and that Dalglish also apologised for his conduct but actions speak louder than words. Both Suarez's and Dalglish's reputations have taken hits during this whole saga.
Evra should also apologise for his conduct too tbh
 
If the Fenway Sports Group is to be the responsible team owner in soccer that it has proved to be in baseball, it needs to get hold of Liverpool, its club in England’s Premier League, and repair its global image fast.

On Saturday, Liverpool lost atManchester United, 2-1, allowing United to temporarily move into first place in the Premier League. There is no disgrace in such a loss; United, the defending English champion, is vying to keep that title this season, and it very rarely loses at home.
But there was disgrace, witnessed by television viewers around the world, in the refusal of Liverpool’s Luis Suárez to shake the hand of United’s Patrice Evra before kickoff.
The hand might not always be offered with sincerity. It might often be less than the noble sign of pregame respect between opponents that FIFA would like to have us believe it is. But in this case it was important to show a global audience that Suárez and Evra were man enough to touch palms and bury the enmity between them.
This was the first time that Suárez had started a game since he was barred for eight matches for repeatedly calling Evra racist names when they competed against each other last October. Suárez claimed that the words he uttered, as used in his Uruguayan hometown, were not racist but could be affectionate. Evra, who is black and French, but understands Spanish well, said he was deeply offended.
Both players are feisty, provocative, volatile characters, as their records for their clubs, and their national teams, have long shown. Evra led the French team that mutinied against its coach and refused to train during the 2010 World Cup. Suárez was the player who made no apology for deliberately handling the ball that led to Ghana’s elimination from that tournament, and he was purchased by Liverpool after he was suspended in the Dutch league for biting an opponent.
It would seem that each of them would wish to show that, for the sake of their team if not their own reputation, they could abide by the rules and rituals of the game that makes their fortune.
Manchester United Manager Alex Ferguson began the week by publicly asking his players to rise above any bitter feelings they had and display sportsmanship on the field. He said he spoke with Evra on Saturday morning.
“Patrice and I had a chat,” Ferguson said, “and he said: ‘I’m going to shake his hand. I’ve got nothing to be ashamed of. I want to keep my dignity.’ ” When the moment arrived, it was beyond Evra’s grasp.
Suárez shook hands with the referee, and then with the child who was United’s mascot for the day. He then stared at the ground, ignoring the hand extended by Evra and walking toward the next man in line, goalkeeper David de Gea.
Evra grabbed the arm of Suárez, who shrugged him off. De Gea seemed to try to ask Suárez to shake Evra’s hand, and he again refused. The next United player in line, Rio Ferdinand, then withdrew his hand as Suárez passed.
“After seeing what happened, I decided not to shake his hand,” Ferdinand said after the game. “I lost all respect for the guy.”
Ugly repercussions followed. The United crowd booed Suárez, as the Liverpool crowd had booed Evra in its stadium when the teams met in the F.A. Cup two weeks ago.
In the tunnel as the teams headed to halftime Saturday, the teams scuffled after Evra attempted to say something to Suárez. The police and stewards intervened to separate the players.
The Suárez-Evra feud overshadowed the top-class soccer these teams are capable of. United quickly took a 2-0 lead on two goals by the Liverpool-born Wayne Rooney.
The first was from a corner by Ryan Giggs, when Rooney’s sharp anticipation and reflexes led to a short-range volley in a poorly defended penalty area. The second started when Antonio Valencia preyed on an error from Jay Spearing and with split-second vision teed up Rooney, who put a shot between the legs of goalkeeper Pepe Reina.
A late consolation goal by Liverpool, with Suárez reacting like lightning to Ferdinand’s failure to control a deflection, highlighted Suárez’s immense talent. It is that talent that everyone should be talking about, and not racism, especially in a game in which 11 nationalities were represented.
Long after the lights were switched off at Old Trafford, Suárez wrote on Twitter that he was “sad” because of the loss and “disappointed because everything is not that it seems.”
Liverpool Manager Kenny Dalglish claimed he did not see Suárez refuse the handshake, or the shoving in the tunnel at halftime. He had said earlier in the week that Suárez should not have been barred for what he said about Evra, but that he had spoken to Suárez and he knew that Suárez would shake the hand of Evra.
When he was asked on Sky TV after the game why Suárez had not, Dalglish avoided directly answering the question.
“I think you are bang out of order to blame Luis Suárez for whatever happened today,” Dalglish said.
Shortly before that, Evra was whooping to all corners of the stadium. The referee, Phil Dowd, who had managed the game commendably, at that point physically restrained Evra and asked him not to further inflame the players or the supporters.
Ferguson was less charitable. “He is a disgrace to Liverpool Football Club,” he said of Suárez. “That certain player should not be allowed to play for Liverpool again.”
It is time for John Henry and Tom Werner, leaders of the Fenway Group that controls Liverpool, to state clearly the direction the team will take on this issue.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/12/sports/soccer/liverpools-luis-suarez-refuses-to-shake-the-hand-of-uniteds-patrice-evra.html?_r=2

American newspapers forcing action. :)



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Jak said:
good that he apologised and that Dalglish also apologised for his conduct but actions speak louder than words. Both Suarez's and Dalglish's reputations have taken hits during this whole saga.
Evra should also apologise for his conduct too tbh
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evra probably should, but considering he has yet to receive an apology from Suarez, I very much doubt it will happen. Glad United have accepted Liverpools apology and we can hpoefully all move on.

Besides Liverpool have other things to focus on, like how their 3 man mid was almost non existent yesterday, and Downing was so inept I forgot he was on the pitch, Bellamy was a threat as always though
 
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