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Borini has broken his foot >.>
BBC Sport - Liverpool's Fabio Borini breaks a bone in his foot while on Italy duty
BBC Sport - Liverpool's Fabio Borini breaks a bone in his foot while on Italy duty
Excellently put. This isn't some dead point either, its still being debated on and offline, in most circles of football, from fans for a FIFA vice president upsetting the Uruguayan FA with his views on it. Found it funny that he bothered to come on to the forum to show his disdain for people debating on the forum. In fact his post was arguably the least useful of anything put here.
The whole debate of diving is going to rumble on, even at the top, with the Uruguayan FA demanding an apology and action against Jim Boyce.
When your lucks not in, its REALLY not in.
Yes, they have one striker, who isnt particularly clinical.
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Interesting statistics.. Who creates most LFC chances? - Liverpool FC
Suarez is looking 'slightly better' this year, with 7 goals in his last 9 or something like that, its encouraging
We have Yesil, Pacheco and Morgan who can play in the ST role, however, agreed Carroll deal looking worse every day
Suarez is looking 'slightly better' this year, with 7 goals in his last 9 or something like that, its encouraging
We have Yesil, Pacheco and Morgan who can play in the ST role, however, agreed Carroll deal looking worse every day
Such a Little Thing Makes Such a Big Difference
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This is me - not Duncan. Duncan Jenkins is a character - everything he said or did on Twitter was in character, and it's probably fairly important to make the distinction between me and Dunc.
Duncan has been around since about 2009, and in November 2011 he took to Twitter for the first time, in what was surely another doomed bid to find the fame he so desperately craved.
Incredibly, and laughably, Slam Dunc did find some sort of fame. Almost 40,000 followers, including a healthy number of football journalists, eminent Twitter football people, and even the likes of Dara O'Briain. His favourite follower, however, was - and still is - the delightful Kelly Cates. Hi Kelly! *cheery wave*
If you're reading this you will almost certainly know what happened to Dunc during 2012 - the two transfer windows, a few 'scoops', the change of manager at Liverpool FC, live webchats, columns for Goal.com etc. It was absolutely ******* mental.
United fans
Before I go any further and reveal the madness that ensued in late August, I ought to make it clear that I'm a lifelong Liverpool supporter. Duncan...well, he's Oldham til he dies. I guess it became pretty obvious that I'm a Liverpool supporter - plenty of people on Twitter realised and I got it in the neck from numerous angry Manchester United fans who for whatever reason seemed to feel let down by it.
I'll no doubt be subjected to loads more abuse from United fans now I've admitted it - but I want to blow smoke up your arses before I go on.
When Duncan was stuck on fewer than a thousand followers, back in November, he received tremendous support from a core of United fans, particularly a group who work at MUTV and at the club's website. They know who they are. I want to thank them for their support, their promotion of Duncan, and I hope they don't hold it against me.
The likes of @xbirchy, Steve Bibby, Laura Kane, Nick Coppack and others - most of them Man United employees - were fantastic with Duncan. They seemed to love him and Dunc certainly loved them. Another United fan - Matt Savage (@MattSavage7) - has known for ages that I was behind Duncan...since I drunkenly let it slip hours after we beat Everton in the FA Cup semi-final. Matt deserves credit for keeping it to himself for all this time. Cheers mate, I appreciate it.
The Sahin Saga
In August, Duncan put his neck on the block and claimed Sahin was a certainty to sign for Liverpool - he would give up his dream of making it as a journo and quit Twitter if Sahin didn't sign for LFC.
On August 19th, when it appeared Sahin was certain to sign for Arsenal, Duncan deactivated his Twitter account.
In the ensuing hours after Duncan 'left' Twitter, a number of hoax profiles sprung up. Some three hours after Duncan left, I reactivated his account simply to announce that any supposed Duncan Jenkins accounts were fake.
Minutes after Duncan's comeback tweet, I (me, not Duncan) received this DM on my personal Twitter account.
I was stunned. How did he know it was me? And why was he so bothered?
I tried to reply but I couldn't, as Chang wasn't following me. Clearly he had followed me to enable him to send the DM, and immediately unfollowed, denying me the chance to reply.
So I emailed him at his official LFC email address.
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Hi
I couldn't reply to your DM as you obviously instantly unfollowed, denying me the chance to reply.
As such I hope this reaches you.
Is there any chance I could have your ear over this? Either via email or in person? To a certain extent it
has been a misunderstanding on your side and I want to lay every card on the table. Duncan is dead -
don't worry about that - I just want to explain. I am a Liverpool supporter of over 30 years, I mean no ill
will and certainly wouldn't relish any bad blood.
Look forward to hearing from you and I hope we can put this to bed amicably.
Cheers
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Sure, we can meet in person. When are you next in town?
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Thanks for the reply.
That's great, I would prefer that.
Sadly I'm not due over that way any time soon. Is there no way you can make it over my way?
I'm only 40 minutes or so by road.
If not I'll have to see what I can do about getting over to Liverpool this week.
Cheers
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How about we meet on Wednesday Aug 22 around 1:30? How are you in terms of getting to
Deansgate in Manchester, or does it need to be somewhere in ********?
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Time and place is fine - naturally ******* would be easier for me. Might I also suggest it may be
better for you - lower key, won't get any hassle etc. And it's a nice place too haha. If you thought
******* would be better I have a nice, quiet and hospitable place in mind in the ******** ***** area.
It's also very straightforward to find/accessible from the motorway.
Otherwise, if you have somewhere specific in mind on Deansgate - offices or something - then that
would be fine by me too.
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To be honest, would prefer to meet in Deansgate in this case.
Let’s meet outside Evuna at 1:30 on Wednesday.
277-279 Deansgate,
Evuna Manchester - Restaurant Information , 277-279 Deansgate
What mobile number are you using nowadays? 0xxxx xxxxxx?
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That is absolutely fine.
Yep still on that same number.
See you on Wednesday then.
Cheers
So that was that. I expected a fairly amicable meeting. I was going to tell him the truth - I had no mole inside Liverpool FC. I figured he might feel a bit silly initially but would ultimately be relieved there was no-one inside the club feeding me stuff.
Wednesday 22nd August, 1pm:
I arrived in town for my meeting with Jen Chang a bit early, and was in the vicinity for 1pm. I had a cigarette down at Spinningfields before making my way to Evuna. I was crossing the road opposite at around 1:15pm when I saw Chang on the other side of the road. I crossed the road, gave him a shout, and we went into the restaurant.
He commented that I looked different in person to my Twitter profile pic. I noted I was wearing sunglasses in my profile pic, and also that I was currently a bit nervous. That was true, I was a bit nervous - it was a surreal situation for me to be in - but I presented it as a joke. He replied, without any humour at all, "Well you should be."
Chang wanted to know who Duncan's "mole" was. I told him the truth straight away, that there was no mole. He found it difficult to believe. This went on for a while and I explained how Duncan worked, that it was all a big ruse. I asked him why on earth were the club so upset/obsessed with me about Duncan, why all this nonsense.
He went on to tell me that Duncan had cost the club money, specifically on the Borini deal. He told me LFC had been involved with difficult negotiations with Roma over the transfer of Borini. He claims Roma asked for absolute discretion from LFC, that if news of the proposed deal got out Roma's fans would be unhappy about the sale of a young Italian international. Talks were then concluded for the day, he said.
Later that very day, Chang claimed, Duncan Jenkins tweeted about Borini to LFC being a genuine possibility. Chang claimed Roma were furious about it, and that they then upped the transfer fee by around £0.3m (£300,000). Chang gave me an analogy - he said it was like promising to take your wife out for meal, only to have an argument before the meal, and by the time you'd made up with your wife you have to agree to take her to a more expensive restaurant.
For what it's worth - like most of Duncan's tweets - the Borini tweet was a punt, based on a tweet by Neil Jones at the Echo saying he knew Rodgers liked Borini, as Rodgers had told him so in an interview. Any coincidences in terms of timing were exactly that, a coincidence.
Chang claimed every time Duncan Jenkins tweeted about a transfer involving LFC, the club would receive, and I quote, "50-60 calls from agents and journalists", and he also claimed he knew for a fact that some journalists had written transfer stories based solely on what Jenkins had tweeted. I asked him if Ian Ayre was aware of Jenkins. He claimed Ian Ayre was well aware of Jenkins and that he hated him for making his life and transfer negotiations more difficult.
I was pretty certain everything he'd said up to this point was complete horseshit, designed to intimidate me.
I then asked him how they caught me. I'd been convinced someone had grassed me up to the club, and I thought I knew who was responsible. To my absolute shock Chang told me he had hired people to find me. He told me what they knew about me, about my family, about my Dad's business (he named the business) and about the work I did. I was absolutely stunned and it seemed clear to me that this much was in fact true - given the level of knowledge he had about me and my family.
He then claimed the cost of pursuing me had come out of his budget, and that that money could and would have otherwise been spent on charitable projects, such as projects involving disabled kids in Toxteth (for what it's worth he actually used the word 'handicapped'). I immediately suspected this was more bullshit, a blatant attempt to emotionally guilt trip me.
He said he suspected someone inside the club of being a "mole", and that he'd run checks on him and expected to find links (emails, texts etc) to me. He said they'd not yet found any. I assured him that they could run the most thorough checks imaginable and they would never find a single link to me - because there weren't any. I urged him to run more checks, to be as thorough as he possibly could, and repeatedly guaranteed to him - indeed I swore on my young son's life - that he would find no links to me because I/Duncan Jenkins did not have a mole inside Liverpool Football Club.
Chang told me when he got the dossier on me (a dossier FFS) from the people he'd hired to find me, he was surprised to find it was me. He said he remembered me from Twitter. I'd had one or two exchanges with him before he got the job at Liverpool - just normal football talk. He said he remembered everybody he spoke to, and that he thought I was a genuine, passionate Red and also a decent bloke. He then said this was the only reason he'd given me the opportunity to defend myself, to have this meeting. He says had that not been the case he would've gone ahead with his planned action. He claimed he couldn't understand why an apparently passionate Red would "wilfully damage the club".
He told me he'd asked a broadsheet journalist (who will remain unnamed) "some weeks ago" to contact me to tell me to back off and to stop tweeting. Only a week before the meeting did that journalist contact me, and even then he only told me that Chang knew my name. He didn't say anything about stopping tweeting. Having not got that message, Duncan had naturally continued to tweet, and in fact had been crowing on Twitter that the club were after him but would never find him.
Chang said this infuriated him - he was under the impression I had received the message from the journalist (why didn't Chang contact me himself?) and yet Jenkins flagrantly carried on tweeting, lording it on Twitter. He said he felt I was deliberately winding him up.
He said his planned action was still in place and there was one way in which I could avert this action - if I tweeted (as Duncan Jenkins) by Thursday night at the latest to confess that there was never a mole inside LFC and the whole thing had been a blag. If not, there would be no amicable resolution and his action would commence.
I asked him what on earth he'd planned to do.
He said I would be banned from Anfield for life. I told him the season ticket - which I share - was not in my name. He said it didn't matter, and that both I and the lad who owns the season ticket would be reimbursed and then given lifetime bans from Anfield. He then started to talk about what a disaster this would be for me - how not only would I lose the season ticket and be banned for life, but I would upset a friend who would be banned for life through no fault of his own. I told him I'd known my friend since we were both 4 years old (my point being that our friendship would not be jeopardised by a ridiculous situation like this). He took it the wrong way and re-emphasised what a disaster it would be for me to lose a lifelong friend.
He then told me that most journalists despised Duncan Jenkins, and some had been actively trying to find out who was behind it so they could run smear stories on me in the press.
I asked why would any journo hate him, I asked was it because it was perceived that Duncan was making fools out of them - beating them to several exclusives, "outscooping" and out-performing them. He said that was exactly it.
He told me that if I didn't tweet as requested by Thursday night, and/or that further checks with their suspected mole revealed links to me, that he would hand over all of my info (from the dossier compiled by the people hired to find me) to the embittered journalists and ask them to do their worst, to run smear stories on me in the tabloid press. He said "they will make your life ****, and will turn all Liverpool supporters against you. The papers will say you cost the club you claim to love serious money, that you wilfully damaged the club".
"You know how crazy football fans are", he said, "You'll have dog **** coming through your letterbox, you'll have to take your Facebook page down, you might even have to move house".
He repeated the stuff about dog **** coming through my letterbox several times, reiterating that football fans, especially Liverpool FC fans, are crazy and would make my life a living ****.
He then said the papers would also "ruin your Dad's online business".
Looking back on all this, it's a wonder I didn't deck him. I'm not a violent man by any stretch of the imagination, but bringing my family into it, and making threats like that, was a new low. It was difficult to take all this in - the conversation was fast-moving and pretty much everything coming out of his mouth was simply amazing. I had no time to digest everything he was saying and I just sat there in a daze.
During the meeting I played along, and I agreed to do the tweet as requested.
We left Evuna at approximately 14:55. We left on what superficially seemed like good terms - I was promising to do the tweet and Chang said "I'll see you at Anfield for a game this season".
I immediately called my wife and it was only then, as I recounted on the phone what had just happened, what I'd been threatened with, that the gravity of his threats really hit home.
Thursday 23rd August:
I did not tweet as requested. He can stick his pseudo-gangster deadline **** up his ****.
Friday 24th August:
At around 9am on Friday morning, after I'd dropped my son off at nursery, a 'private number' attempted to call me. I never answer private numbers, and in fact thought it was someone else in relation to an entirely separate matter. I didn't think anything of it.
News was breaking that morning that Nuri Sahin was in fact going to sign for Liverpool, meaning Duncan would not have to go through with his promise to quit Twitter if Sahin didn't sign for Liverpool. At about 11:30am Jenkins tweeted in reference to Sahin moving to Liverpool.
A matter of minutes later, Chang emailed me. Here is the exchange:
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****
I saw your latest tweet. Disappointing.
Are you reneging?
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Jen
I assured, indeed guaranteed you I did not and do not have a 'mole' inside the club. I do not have
any kind of 'mole', anywhere. You have since had time to prove this via the checks you were planning
on running.
In light of our meeting in Manchester, the thought of being banned from Anfield for life, losing a lifelong
friend (whose name is on the season ticket), and more distressingly my family and my family's livelihood
being ruined by outing 'Duncan' to the press, I've had a particularly stressful couple of days.
However I was under the impression, since you claimed to believe me, that all that would now be off
the table?
You know I don't want to go down that route as I would be out of my depth.
If this isn't the way forward then I am happy to discuss further.
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What time can you talk on the phone today?
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No idea when I can take a call as the kids are noisily running amok and I'm in charge.
Stressed enough as it is what with everything that went on the other day.
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I’ve tried calling you already several times. I’ll try again, if not, I’ll call you tonight when
the kids are asleep.
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You had stated you’d tweet what was agreed as an amenable solution.
If it isn’t done by end of day today I’m going to assume that you have no real
interest in an amicable resolution.
As I already said, I would strongly prefer an amicable resolution.
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That final email - indicating that things would get messy if I didn't comply with his bullshit - was sent to me at 6:01pm.
The phone calls from Chang continued to pour in. It was relentless. Unfortunately I don't know how to do screen grabs from my Nokia Lumia phone but suffice to say I still have the 20 odd unanswered calls on my phone. It was tantamount to harassment. In fact I dare say it probably was harassment.
It was all rather stressful so that Friday night I went down the pub. The phone calls continued until around midnight.
Friday 31st August
Transfer deadline day.
I hadn't heard from Chang since the unanswered calls the previous Friday. In the meantime I had assembled a fairly potent backing - some heavyweight support - and as such I was feeling much better about it all. I could hardly have hand-picked better people to have on my side, but unfortunately Chang clearly caught wind of this.
At about 7pm, I received a call from a third party on Chang's behalf - someone I had until that point counted on. The caller told me he'd spoken to Chang, that all threats were now withdrawn, and would I agree to sweep it under the carpet and forget about it.
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That is pretty much it. Why have I taken over a month to pipe up? Well, I've been exploring a few avenues but unfortunately none of them led anywhere.
When I came out of the meeting with Chang my head was all over the place. I was affronted about being threatened, and having my parents' business brought into it, their livelihoods threatened. I knew the threats were unrealistic and pretty ludicrous, but nevertheless I'd been threatened and intimidated by a board member at the football club I loved.
Liverpool FC have had enough bad PR in the last 12 months to last a lifetime - so did I really want to go public with this? The thought of taking them on was not appealing, and fairly terrifying if I'm honest. Little old me had absolutely no chance against the behemoth that is Liverpool FC with their limitless resources. And why would I want to fight *my* club?
Ultimately I realised it wasn't the club I was fighting. The club is the fans, the goals, the songs. Not some hired Comms Director. During the meeting Chang told me no-one at the club knew he was having this meeting. He came out with a phenomenal amount of bullshit during the meeting, but I suspected this bit to be true. I don't think this was a Liverpool FC thing - I believe it was Chang flying solo. For some reason he had become unbelievably paranoid about Duncan Jenkins and his behaviour was borderline demented.
Everything I've written is 100% true. There is not a single shred of embellishment in this account. The only way I could prove it would be if I'd recorded the conversation using my phone. Prior to the meeting I'd been advised by some friends to record the entire conversation. Obviously I wish I had now, but at the time I found the idea ridiculous - I was naively expecting an amicable meeting and I didn't want to get into shady business like recording conversations.
I don't have anything to gain from this. There are rumours on Twitter, forums etc so I just wanted the truth to come out.
Thanks to everyone who helped make Duncan's little adventure such fun. It was a blast.
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This is me - not Duncan. Duncan Jenkins is a character - everything he said or did on Twitter was in character, and it's probably fairly important to make the distinction between me and Dunc.
Duncan has been around since about 2009, and in November 2011 he took to Twitter for the first time, in what was surely another doomed bid to find the fame he so desperately craved.
Incredibly, and laughably, Slam Dunc did find some sort of fame. Almost 40,000 followers, including a healthy number of football journalists, eminent Twitter football people, and even the likes of Dara O'Briain. His favourite follower, however, was - and still is - the delightful Kelly Cates. Hi Kelly! *cheery wave*
If you're reading this you will almost certainly know what happened to Dunc during 2012 - the two transfer windows, a few 'scoops', the change of manager at Liverpool FC, live webchats, columns for Goal.com etc. It was absolutely ******* mental.
United fans
Before I go any further and reveal the madness that ensued in late August, I ought to make it clear that I'm a lifelong Liverpool supporter. Duncan...well, he's Oldham til he dies. I guess it became pretty obvious that I'm a Liverpool supporter - plenty of people on Twitter realised and I got it in the neck from numerous angry Manchester United fans who for whatever reason seemed to feel let down by it.
I'll no doubt be subjected to loads more abuse from United fans now I've admitted it - but I want to blow smoke up your arses before I go on.
When Duncan was stuck on fewer than a thousand followers, back in November, he received tremendous support from a core of United fans, particularly a group who work at MUTV and at the club's website. They know who they are. I want to thank them for their support, their promotion of Duncan, and I hope they don't hold it against me.
The likes of @xbirchy, Steve Bibby, Laura Kane, Nick Coppack and others - most of them Man United employees - were fantastic with Duncan. They seemed to love him and Dunc certainly loved them. Another United fan - Matt Savage (@MattSavage7) - has known for ages that I was behind Duncan...since I drunkenly let it slip hours after we beat Everton in the FA Cup semi-final. Matt deserves credit for keeping it to himself for all this time. Cheers mate, I appreciate it.
The Sahin Saga
In August, Duncan put his neck on the block and claimed Sahin was a certainty to sign for Liverpool - he would give up his dream of making it as a journo and quit Twitter if Sahin didn't sign for LFC.
On August 19th, when it appeared Sahin was certain to sign for Arsenal, Duncan deactivated his Twitter account.
In the ensuing hours after Duncan 'left' Twitter, a number of hoax profiles sprung up. Some three hours after Duncan left, I reactivated his account simply to announce that any supposed Duncan Jenkins accounts were fake.
Minutes after Duncan's comeback tweet, I (me, not Duncan) received this DM on my personal Twitter account.
I was stunned. How did he know it was me? And why was he so bothered?
I tried to reply but I couldn't, as Chang wasn't following me. Clearly he had followed me to enable him to send the DM, and immediately unfollowed, denying me the chance to reply.
So I emailed him at his official LFC email address.
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Hi
I couldn't reply to your DM as you obviously instantly unfollowed, denying me the chance to reply.
As such I hope this reaches you.
Is there any chance I could have your ear over this? Either via email or in person? To a certain extent it
has been a misunderstanding on your side and I want to lay every card on the table. Duncan is dead -
don't worry about that - I just want to explain. I am a Liverpool supporter of over 30 years, I mean no ill
will and certainly wouldn't relish any bad blood.
Look forward to hearing from you and I hope we can put this to bed amicably.
Cheers
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Thanks for the reply.
That's great, I would prefer that.
Sadly I'm not due over that way any time soon. Is there no way you can make it over my way?
I'm only 40 minutes or so by road.
If not I'll have to see what I can do about getting over to Liverpool this week.
Cheers
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How about we meet on Wednesday Aug 22 around 1:30? How are you in terms of getting to
Deansgate in Manchester, or does it need to be somewhere in ********?
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Time and place is fine - naturally ******* would be easier for me. Might I also suggest it may be
better for you - lower key, won't get any hassle etc. And it's a nice place too haha. If you thought
******* would be better I have a nice, quiet and hospitable place in mind in the ******** ***** area.
It's also very straightforward to find/accessible from the motorway.
Otherwise, if you have somewhere specific in mind on Deansgate - offices or something - then that
would be fine by me too.
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To be honest, would prefer to meet in Deansgate in this case.
Let’s meet outside Evuna at 1:30 on Wednesday.
277-279 Deansgate,
Evuna Manchester - Restaurant Information , 277-279 Deansgate
What mobile number are you using nowadays? 0xxxx xxxxxx?
Jen Chang
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That is absolutely fine.
Yep still on that same number.
See you on Wednesday then.
Cheers
So that was that. I expected a fairly amicable meeting. I was going to tell him the truth - I had no mole inside Liverpool FC. I figured he might feel a bit silly initially but would ultimately be relieved there was no-one inside the club feeding me stuff.
Wednesday 22nd August, 1pm:
I arrived in town for my meeting with Jen Chang a bit early, and was in the vicinity for 1pm. I had a cigarette down at Spinningfields before making my way to Evuna. I was crossing the road opposite at around 1:15pm when I saw Chang on the other side of the road. I crossed the road, gave him a shout, and we went into the restaurant.
He commented that I looked different in person to my Twitter profile pic. I noted I was wearing sunglasses in my profile pic, and also that I was currently a bit nervous. That was true, I was a bit nervous - it was a surreal situation for me to be in - but I presented it as a joke. He replied, without any humour at all, "Well you should be."
Chang wanted to know who Duncan's "mole" was. I told him the truth straight away, that there was no mole. He found it difficult to believe. This went on for a while and I explained how Duncan worked, that it was all a big ruse. I asked him why on earth were the club so upset/obsessed with me about Duncan, why all this nonsense.
He went on to tell me that Duncan had cost the club money, specifically on the Borini deal. He told me LFC had been involved with difficult negotiations with Roma over the transfer of Borini. He claims Roma asked for absolute discretion from LFC, that if news of the proposed deal got out Roma's fans would be unhappy about the sale of a young Italian international. Talks were then concluded for the day, he said.
Later that very day, Chang claimed, Duncan Jenkins tweeted about Borini to LFC being a genuine possibility. Chang claimed Roma were furious about it, and that they then upped the transfer fee by around £0.3m (£300,000). Chang gave me an analogy - he said it was like promising to take your wife out for meal, only to have an argument before the meal, and by the time you'd made up with your wife you have to agree to take her to a more expensive restaurant.
For what it's worth - like most of Duncan's tweets - the Borini tweet was a punt, based on a tweet by Neil Jones at the Echo saying he knew Rodgers liked Borini, as Rodgers had told him so in an interview. Any coincidences in terms of timing were exactly that, a coincidence.
Chang claimed every time Duncan Jenkins tweeted about a transfer involving LFC, the club would receive, and I quote, "50-60 calls from agents and journalists", and he also claimed he knew for a fact that some journalists had written transfer stories based solely on what Jenkins had tweeted. I asked him if Ian Ayre was aware of Jenkins. He claimed Ian Ayre was well aware of Jenkins and that he hated him for making his life and transfer negotiations more difficult.
I was pretty certain everything he'd said up to this point was complete horseshit, designed to intimidate me.
I then asked him how they caught me. I'd been convinced someone had grassed me up to the club, and I thought I knew who was responsible. To my absolute shock Chang told me he had hired people to find me. He told me what they knew about me, about my family, about my Dad's business (he named the business) and about the work I did. I was absolutely stunned and it seemed clear to me that this much was in fact true - given the level of knowledge he had about me and my family.
He then claimed the cost of pursuing me had come out of his budget, and that that money could and would have otherwise been spent on charitable projects, such as projects involving disabled kids in Toxteth (for what it's worth he actually used the word 'handicapped'). I immediately suspected this was more bullshit, a blatant attempt to emotionally guilt trip me.
He said he suspected someone inside the club of being a "mole", and that he'd run checks on him and expected to find links (emails, texts etc) to me. He said they'd not yet found any. I assured him that they could run the most thorough checks imaginable and they would never find a single link to me - because there weren't any. I urged him to run more checks, to be as thorough as he possibly could, and repeatedly guaranteed to him - indeed I swore on my young son's life - that he would find no links to me because I/Duncan Jenkins did not have a mole inside Liverpool Football Club.
Chang told me when he got the dossier on me (a dossier FFS) from the people he'd hired to find me, he was surprised to find it was me. He said he remembered me from Twitter. I'd had one or two exchanges with him before he got the job at Liverpool - just normal football talk. He said he remembered everybody he spoke to, and that he thought I was a genuine, passionate Red and also a decent bloke. He then said this was the only reason he'd given me the opportunity to defend myself, to have this meeting. He says had that not been the case he would've gone ahead with his planned action. He claimed he couldn't understand why an apparently passionate Red would "wilfully damage the club".
He told me he'd asked a broadsheet journalist (who will remain unnamed) "some weeks ago" to contact me to tell me to back off and to stop tweeting. Only a week before the meeting did that journalist contact me, and even then he only told me that Chang knew my name. He didn't say anything about stopping tweeting. Having not got that message, Duncan had naturally continued to tweet, and in fact had been crowing on Twitter that the club were after him but would never find him.
Chang said this infuriated him - he was under the impression I had received the message from the journalist (why didn't Chang contact me himself?) and yet Jenkins flagrantly carried on tweeting, lording it on Twitter. He said he felt I was deliberately winding him up.
He said his planned action was still in place and there was one way in which I could avert this action - if I tweeted (as Duncan Jenkins) by Thursday night at the latest to confess that there was never a mole inside LFC and the whole thing had been a blag. If not, there would be no amicable resolution and his action would commence.
I asked him what on earth he'd planned to do.
He said I would be banned from Anfield for life. I told him the season ticket - which I share - was not in my name. He said it didn't matter, and that both I and the lad who owns the season ticket would be reimbursed and then given lifetime bans from Anfield. He then started to talk about what a disaster this would be for me - how not only would I lose the season ticket and be banned for life, but I would upset a friend who would be banned for life through no fault of his own. I told him I'd known my friend since we were both 4 years old (my point being that our friendship would not be jeopardised by a ridiculous situation like this). He took it the wrong way and re-emphasised what a disaster it would be for me to lose a lifelong friend.
He then told me that most journalists despised Duncan Jenkins, and some had been actively trying to find out who was behind it so they could run smear stories on me in the press.
I asked why would any journo hate him, I asked was it because it was perceived that Duncan was making fools out of them - beating them to several exclusives, "outscooping" and out-performing them. He said that was exactly it.
He told me that if I didn't tweet as requested by Thursday night, and/or that further checks with their suspected mole revealed links to me, that he would hand over all of my info (from the dossier compiled by the people hired to find me) to the embittered journalists and ask them to do their worst, to run smear stories on me in the tabloid press. He said "they will make your life ****, and will turn all Liverpool supporters against you. The papers will say you cost the club you claim to love serious money, that you wilfully damaged the club".
"You know how crazy football fans are", he said, "You'll have dog **** coming through your letterbox, you'll have to take your Facebook page down, you might even have to move house".
He repeated the stuff about dog **** coming through my letterbox several times, reiterating that football fans, especially Liverpool FC fans, are crazy and would make my life a living ****.
He then said the papers would also "ruin your Dad's online business".
Looking back on all this, it's a wonder I didn't deck him. I'm not a violent man by any stretch of the imagination, but bringing my family into it, and making threats like that, was a new low. It was difficult to take all this in - the conversation was fast-moving and pretty much everything coming out of his mouth was simply amazing. I had no time to digest everything he was saying and I just sat there in a daze.
During the meeting I played along, and I agreed to do the tweet as requested.
We left Evuna at approximately 14:55. We left on what superficially seemed like good terms - I was promising to do the tweet and Chang said "I'll see you at Anfield for a game this season".
I immediately called my wife and it was only then, as I recounted on the phone what had just happened, what I'd been threatened with, that the gravity of his threats really hit home.
Thursday 23rd August:
I did not tweet as requested. He can stick his pseudo-gangster deadline **** up his ****.
Friday 24th August:
At around 9am on Friday morning, after I'd dropped my son off at nursery, a 'private number' attempted to call me. I never answer private numbers, and in fact thought it was someone else in relation to an entirely separate matter. I didn't think anything of it.
News was breaking that morning that Nuri Sahin was in fact going to sign for Liverpool, meaning Duncan would not have to go through with his promise to quit Twitter if Sahin didn't sign for Liverpool. At about 11:30am Jenkins tweeted in reference to Sahin moving to Liverpool.
A matter of minutes later, Chang emailed me. Here is the exchange:
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I saw your latest tweet. Disappointing.
Are you reneging?
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Jen
I assured, indeed guaranteed you I did not and do not have a 'mole' inside the club. I do not have
any kind of 'mole', anywhere. You have since had time to prove this via the checks you were planning
on running.
In light of our meeting in Manchester, the thought of being banned from Anfield for life, losing a lifelong
friend (whose name is on the season ticket), and more distressingly my family and my family's livelihood
being ruined by outing 'Duncan' to the press, I've had a particularly stressful couple of days.
However I was under the impression, since you claimed to believe me, that all that would now be off
the table?
You know I don't want to go down that route as I would be out of my depth.
If this isn't the way forward then I am happy to discuss further.
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What time can you talk on the phone today?
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No idea when I can take a call as the kids are noisily running amok and I'm in charge.
Stressed enough as it is what with everything that went on the other day.
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I’ve tried calling you already several times. I’ll try again, if not, I’ll call you tonight when
the kids are asleep.
Jen Chang
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You had stated you’d tweet what was agreed as an amenable solution.
If it isn’t done by end of day today I’m going to assume that you have no real
interest in an amicable resolution.
As I already said, I would strongly prefer an amicable resolution.
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That final email - indicating that things would get messy if I didn't comply with his bullshit - was sent to me at 6:01pm.
The phone calls from Chang continued to pour in. It was relentless. Unfortunately I don't know how to do screen grabs from my Nokia Lumia phone but suffice to say I still have the 20 odd unanswered calls on my phone. It was tantamount to harassment. In fact I dare say it probably was harassment.
It was all rather stressful so that Friday night I went down the pub. The phone calls continued until around midnight.
Friday 31st August
Transfer deadline day.
I hadn't heard from Chang since the unanswered calls the previous Friday. In the meantime I had assembled a fairly potent backing - some heavyweight support - and as such I was feeling much better about it all. I could hardly have hand-picked better people to have on my side, but unfortunately Chang clearly caught wind of this.
At about 7pm, I received a call from a third party on Chang's behalf - someone I had until that point counted on. The caller told me he'd spoken to Chang, that all threats were now withdrawn, and would I agree to sweep it under the carpet and forget about it.
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That is pretty much it. Why have I taken over a month to pipe up? Well, I've been exploring a few avenues but unfortunately none of them led anywhere.
When I came out of the meeting with Chang my head was all over the place. I was affronted about being threatened, and having my parents' business brought into it, their livelihoods threatened. I knew the threats were unrealistic and pretty ludicrous, but nevertheless I'd been threatened and intimidated by a board member at the football club I loved.
Liverpool FC have had enough bad PR in the last 12 months to last a lifetime - so did I really want to go public with this? The thought of taking them on was not appealing, and fairly terrifying if I'm honest. Little old me had absolutely no chance against the behemoth that is Liverpool FC with their limitless resources. And why would I want to fight *my* club?
Ultimately I realised it wasn't the club I was fighting. The club is the fans, the goals, the songs. Not some hired Comms Director. During the meeting Chang told me no-one at the club knew he was having this meeting. He came out with a phenomenal amount of bullshit during the meeting, but I suspected this bit to be true. I don't think this was a Liverpool FC thing - I believe it was Chang flying solo. For some reason he had become unbelievably paranoid about Duncan Jenkins and his behaviour was borderline demented.
Everything I've written is 100% true. There is not a single shred of embellishment in this account. The only way I could prove it would be if I'd recorded the conversation using my phone. Prior to the meeting I'd been advised by some friends to record the entire conversation. Obviously I wish I had now, but at the time I found the idea ridiculous - I was naively expecting an amicable meeting and I didn't want to get into shady business like recording conversations.
I don't have anything to gain from this. There are rumours on Twitter, forums etc so I just wanted the truth to come out.
Thanks to everyone who helped make Duncan's little adventure such fun. It was a blast.
Hillsborough disaster: watchdog to launch biggest ever inquiry into police
IPCC to investigate 1989 disaster and aftermath as Crown Prosecution Service says it will consider criminal charges
Tributes to victims of the Hillsborough disaster outside Liverpool's Anfield stadium. Photograph: Dave Thompson/PA
The independent police watchdog is to launch a major, wide-ranging investigation into allegations of misconduct by South Yorkshire police, West Midlands police and others arising from the Hillsborough independent panel report published last month.
The director of public prosecutions (DPP), Kier Starmer, has also announced that he will immediately review all the evidence in the 395-page report to decide whether new charges of manslaughter can be brought.
"I have now concluded that the Crown Prosecution Service should consider all the material now available in relation to the tragic events of 15 April 1989, including material made available by the independent panel," Starmer said.
"The purpose of this investigation is to identify what the focus of any further criminal investigation should be in order for the CPS to determine whether this is now sufficient evidence to charge any individual or corporate body with any criminal offence."
The DPP will look into the potential for new manslaughter charges, while the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) will investigate the aftermath of the tragedy and identify possible criminal offences or disciplinary action.
"We are going to be launching an independent investigation into those new matters. We've carried out a review of the report and begun looking at the 450,000 pages of underlying evidence. We have identified a large number of potential criminal and misconduct offences," said Deborah Glass, the deputy chair of the IPCC.
"The potential criminal misconduct offences fall into two broad categories. There are allegations that go to the heart of what happened at Hillsborough and allegations about what happened afterwards."
The investigation, the biggest ever independent review of the police in the UK, will look into allegations that police officers' statements were changed and that misleading information was passed to the media and parliament.
It will primarily focus on South Yorkshire police, in charge on the day of the tragedy, and West Midlands police, who carried out an investigation into their colleagues.
It will also investigate the actions of the police after the disaster including claims that families were asked about the drinking habits of the deceased and that computer checks were undertaken to see whether they had criminal records. The decision to take the blood alcohol levels of the deceased will also be examined.
"A large number of current and former officers will be under investigation, including Sir Norman Bettison," Glass said.
Bettison, the West Yorkshire chief constable who was at the match as a spectator and later took part in an internal inquiry, announced earlier this month that he planned to take early retirement.
The report showed that he took part in the preparation of a video presenting the police's version of events. He was accused by the Labour MP Maria Eagle of being part of a "black ops" unit designed to cover up the police's role in the disaster.
The IPCC said it would also investigate a second complaint from the West Yorkshire Police Authority that Bettison had tried to influence it over its referral.
"At the moment, we don't actually know which officers we're investigating. This will be the largest independent inquiry that has been launched into the actions of the police in the United Kingdom," said Glass.
It will take several months to scope the extent of the inquiry. There are believed to be 200 officers on duty on the day who are still serving in the South Yorkshire police force.
The Hillsborough independent panel, which reported last month after being asked to re-examine all the circumstances around the disaster with full unrestricted access to all related documents, reasserted that fans were in no way at fault and for the first time laid bare the extent of the police cover-up.
It reaffirmed the findings of the Taylor report published in the wake of the disaster, which showed that it was caused by the unsafe stadium and the police.
It also showed how by the evening of the disaster South Yorkshire police had already begun a process of constructing an alternative narrative that blamed drunken fans.
Of 141 police statements substantially changed in the wake of the disaster, 116 were altered to remove negative comments about the policing operation.
"The alleged nature of some of the amendments may amount to the criminal offences of perverting the course of justice or misconduct in public office. The deliberate alteration of statements may also raise misconduct offences in relation to honesty and integrity," said Glass.
The IPCC said the aftermath of the disaster had never been investigated and it has sought assurances from the home secretary that it will have sufficient resources to do so.
It will also investigate new claims contained in the report that senior officers may have lied about whether they knew the central tunnel into the Leppings Lane end of the stadium was closed at semi-finals in previous years (1981, 1987 and 1988) to prevent overcrowding.
In the immediate aftermath of the disaster, it was decided in August 1990 that no charges of manslaughter could be brought against the police, Sheffield Wednesday, the consultant stadium engineers Eastwoods or Sheffield city council.
The QCs who examined the evidence on behalf of the DPP also examined the case for bringing manslaughter and culpable misfeasance charges against individuals including Chief Superintendent David Duckenfield, the match commander, but recommended that none be brought against any individual or organisation.
Action by the Police Complaints Authority also came to nothing, with Duckenfield retiring due to ill health in October 1991. A private prosecution brought by members of the Hillsborough Family Support Group against Duckenfield and Superintendent Bernard Murray led to a trial at Leeds crown court in 2000. Murray was acquitted and the jury was unable to reach a verdict on Duckenfield.
The attorney general, Dominic Grieve, has yet to decide whether to apply to the high court to quash the existing verdict of accidental death for the 96 who were killed and order a new inquest.
That would normally have to wait until criminal charges were brought, but the coroner could to proceed without them.
IPCC to investigate 1989 disaster and aftermath as Crown Prosecution Service says it will consider criminal charges
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- Owen Gibson
- guardian.co.uk, Friday 12 October 2012 11.40 BST
The independent police watchdog is to launch a major, wide-ranging investigation into allegations of misconduct by South Yorkshire police, West Midlands police and others arising from the Hillsborough independent panel report published last month.
The director of public prosecutions (DPP), Kier Starmer, has also announced that he will immediately review all the evidence in the 395-page report to decide whether new charges of manslaughter can be brought.
"I have now concluded that the Crown Prosecution Service should consider all the material now available in relation to the tragic events of 15 April 1989, including material made available by the independent panel," Starmer said.
"The purpose of this investigation is to identify what the focus of any further criminal investigation should be in order for the CPS to determine whether this is now sufficient evidence to charge any individual or corporate body with any criminal offence."
The DPP will look into the potential for new manslaughter charges, while the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) will investigate the aftermath of the tragedy and identify possible criminal offences or disciplinary action.
"We are going to be launching an independent investigation into those new matters. We've carried out a review of the report and begun looking at the 450,000 pages of underlying evidence. We have identified a large number of potential criminal and misconduct offences," said Deborah Glass, the deputy chair of the IPCC.
"The potential criminal misconduct offences fall into two broad categories. There are allegations that go to the heart of what happened at Hillsborough and allegations about what happened afterwards."
The investigation, the biggest ever independent review of the police in the UK, will look into allegations that police officers' statements were changed and that misleading information was passed to the media and parliament.
It will primarily focus on South Yorkshire police, in charge on the day of the tragedy, and West Midlands police, who carried out an investigation into their colleagues.
It will also investigate the actions of the police after the disaster including claims that families were asked about the drinking habits of the deceased and that computer checks were undertaken to see whether they had criminal records. The decision to take the blood alcohol levels of the deceased will also be examined.
"A large number of current and former officers will be under investigation, including Sir Norman Bettison," Glass said.
Bettison, the West Yorkshire chief constable who was at the match as a spectator and later took part in an internal inquiry, announced earlier this month that he planned to take early retirement.
The report showed that he took part in the preparation of a video presenting the police's version of events. He was accused by the Labour MP Maria Eagle of being part of a "black ops" unit designed to cover up the police's role in the disaster.
The IPCC said it would also investigate a second complaint from the West Yorkshire Police Authority that Bettison had tried to influence it over its referral.
"At the moment, we don't actually know which officers we're investigating. This will be the largest independent inquiry that has been launched into the actions of the police in the United Kingdom," said Glass.
It will take several months to scope the extent of the inquiry. There are believed to be 200 officers on duty on the day who are still serving in the South Yorkshire police force.
The Hillsborough independent panel, which reported last month after being asked to re-examine all the circumstances around the disaster with full unrestricted access to all related documents, reasserted that fans were in no way at fault and for the first time laid bare the extent of the police cover-up.
It reaffirmed the findings of the Taylor report published in the wake of the disaster, which showed that it was caused by the unsafe stadium and the police.
It also showed how by the evening of the disaster South Yorkshire police had already begun a process of constructing an alternative narrative that blamed drunken fans.
Of 141 police statements substantially changed in the wake of the disaster, 116 were altered to remove negative comments about the policing operation.
"The alleged nature of some of the amendments may amount to the criminal offences of perverting the course of justice or misconduct in public office. The deliberate alteration of statements may also raise misconduct offences in relation to honesty and integrity," said Glass.
The IPCC said the aftermath of the disaster had never been investigated and it has sought assurances from the home secretary that it will have sufficient resources to do so.
It will also investigate new claims contained in the report that senior officers may have lied about whether they knew the central tunnel into the Leppings Lane end of the stadium was closed at semi-finals in previous years (1981, 1987 and 1988) to prevent overcrowding.
In the immediate aftermath of the disaster, it was decided in August 1990 that no charges of manslaughter could be brought against the police, Sheffield Wednesday, the consultant stadium engineers Eastwoods or Sheffield city council.
The QCs who examined the evidence on behalf of the DPP also examined the case for bringing manslaughter and culpable misfeasance charges against individuals including Chief Superintendent David Duckenfield, the match commander, but recommended that none be brought against any individual or organisation.
Action by the Police Complaints Authority also came to nothing, with Duckenfield retiring due to ill health in October 1991. A private prosecution brought by members of the Hillsborough Family Support Group against Duckenfield and Superintendent Bernard Murray led to a trial at Leeds crown court in 2000. Murray was acquitted and the jury was unable to reach a verdict on Duckenfield.
The attorney general, Dominic Grieve, has yet to decide whether to apply to the high court to quash the existing verdict of accidental death for the 96 who were killed and order a new inquest.
That would normally have to wait until criminal charges were brought, but the coroner could to proceed without them.
Could have just posted a link Mike....
But yeah, pretty damning on the Chungdowg. Appears to fancy himself as some sort of comedic badman pushing 'poo' through peoples doors.
I like him.
Nah, you know me, I love long rambling posts and making people read them.
The fact that it enrages you makes it all the more satisfying :$
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Chang's a *******, always was. Our whole staff seems quite incompetent.
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"Fernando Torres has opened his heart up about leaving Liverpool.
The former Reds hitman reluctantly left Anfield for Stamford Bridge as a result of a series of broken promises. Not long after leaving he confessed to friends that he thought he'd made the wrong decision.
While Kenny Dalglish was in charge, KOPTALK claimed that Damien Comolli had made an enquiry to Chelsea about the possibility of re-signing him. That enquiry was met with a mixed reaction. Chelsea were willing to do business, although there was some opposition at the Bridge, while at Anfield, boss Dalglish refused to entertain the idea. Although we couldn't prove the claims back at the time, in recent months it has confirmed that Comolli did put forward a proposed deal only for it to be rejected by Dalglish.
When Dalglish left the club, during FSG's hunt for a new manager, former boss Rafa Benitez claimed behind the scenes that if he was re-appointed at Anfield, he would bring Torres "back home" which is why 'keeper Pepe Reina felt so strongly about a Rafa return.
Speaking about his love affair with Liverpool, Torres said: "I owe Liverpool a huge amount. To the people, to the men in charge, to Benitez and his staff, to the city. A huge amount.
"Liverpool is a fundamental part of my life. They don't remember me that way, but time will change that. I could not have chosen a better place to go when I left Atletico.
"I decided to leave because I had to take a step forwards. It wasn't the best way to have gone but nor were things exactly as they were sold [to the fans].
"One day the truth will come out. In a sporting sense, nothing was happening; a new project was needed. We talked about that – about growth.
"My son is a Liverpool fan and he was already kicking a ball before he was one. He was born in the football city; he had no choice."
He added: "The other day when the news broke about Hillsborough, I felt emotional. I have experienced that, I know what the people have been through, I have seen them cry. I've lived that, I made it mine.
"This has arrived too late but it's another step [in the right direction] and it is things like that that playing for Liverpool gives you: it's a feeling."
We watched the hitman in action last night against France. When he came off the bench he received a very walm welcome. The Spanish commentators were talking about how he's never been happy since he was at Liverpool under Benitez.
The player's comments are unlikely to go down with the Chelsea faithful, especially after also admitting that "it didn't matter if Chelsea won or lost. I wasn't part of the group", when referring to his early days at the club."
The former Reds hitman reluctantly left Anfield for Stamford Bridge as a result of a series of broken promises. Not long after leaving he confessed to friends that he thought he'd made the wrong decision.
While Kenny Dalglish was in charge, KOPTALK claimed that Damien Comolli had made an enquiry to Chelsea about the possibility of re-signing him. That enquiry was met with a mixed reaction. Chelsea were willing to do business, although there was some opposition at the Bridge, while at Anfield, boss Dalglish refused to entertain the idea. Although we couldn't prove the claims back at the time, in recent months it has confirmed that Comolli did put forward a proposed deal only for it to be rejected by Dalglish.
When Dalglish left the club, during FSG's hunt for a new manager, former boss Rafa Benitez claimed behind the scenes that if he was re-appointed at Anfield, he would bring Torres "back home" which is why 'keeper Pepe Reina felt so strongly about a Rafa return.
Speaking about his love affair with Liverpool, Torres said: "I owe Liverpool a huge amount. To the people, to the men in charge, to Benitez and his staff, to the city. A huge amount.
"Liverpool is a fundamental part of my life. They don't remember me that way, but time will change that. I could not have chosen a better place to go when I left Atletico.
"I decided to leave because I had to take a step forwards. It wasn't the best way to have gone but nor were things exactly as they were sold [to the fans].
"One day the truth will come out. In a sporting sense, nothing was happening; a new project was needed. We talked about that – about growth.
"My son is a Liverpool fan and he was already kicking a ball before he was one. He was born in the football city; he had no choice."
He added: "The other day when the news broke about Hillsborough, I felt emotional. I have experienced that, I know what the people have been through, I have seen them cry. I've lived that, I made it mine.
"This has arrived too late but it's another step [in the right direction] and it is things like that that playing for Liverpool gives you: it's a feeling."
We watched the hitman in action last night against France. When he came off the bench he received a very walm welcome. The Spanish commentators were talking about how he's never been happy since he was at Liverpool under Benitez.
The player's comments are unlikely to go down with the Chelsea faithful, especially after also admitting that "it didn't matter if Chelsea won or lost. I wasn't part of the group", when referring to his early days at the club."
He said this when he left, and Liverpool fans vilified him. As he said "one day the truth will out"