The Liverpool Thread

  • Thread starter Thread starter Steve*
  • Start date Start date
  • Replies Replies 45K
  • Views Views 4M
Mike. said:
Liverpool alone play 8 games by the end of october, not counting u23 games. Fitness doesnt really come into it. Lack of opportunities to get said fitness? Different story, and that's the real crux of the matter.
Click to expand...

Therein lies the problem. Where are the games to get that fitness outside of U-23's/ behind closed doors half baked ones? The odd Lge Cup game at a stretch but you're nowhere near ready for a PL game. The opportunity's just aren't there.

You can train and get in physical shape but without the games to get in match shape you're constantly chashing it. 4 months of virtually nothing is a big disadvantage. You're just playing catch-up. If he was still in favour at Anfield, it'd be a lot longer than October the demands on L'pool players now. If you're not at peek match fitness you're disrupting the whole system.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Therein lies the problem. Where are the games to get that fitness outside of U-23's/ behind closed doors half baked ones? The odd Lge Cup game at a stretch but you're nowhere near ready for a PL game. The opportunity's just aren't there.

You can train and get in physical shape but without the games to get in match shape you're constantly chashing it. 4 months of virtually nothing is a big disadvantage. You're just playing catch-up. If he was still in favour at Anfield, it'd be a lot longer than October the demands on L'pool players now. If you're not at peek match fitness you're disrupting the whole system.
Click to expand...

Which means he's viewed as less than rotation, which means it's not about the fitness at all. THATS the point I'm making. Even then a dedicated program still gets him back. Which they are less interested in getting him fit than they claim.

It wouldn't be longer either, Klopp had injury issues at dortmund before, players are never out significantly longer than usual, even the mids who do the running
 
Last edited:
Mike. said:
Which means he's viewed as less than rotation, which means it's not about the fitness at all. THATS the point I'm making
Click to expand...

Oh we know any loan isn't about fitness. That's just club fluff playing the game to keep his name up there for a future sale. He's done here. Don't think you could read the situation any other way.

But regardless, Sakho himself is massively behind anyone else right now and is playing catch-up. You really can't understate how important a full pre-season is and even though players are athletes in far better all year round shape today than they every where, 4 months of nothing is a big gap for anyone. Not least someone that often takes longer to get fully back into things. Even on a hypothetical you got him upto a good stage of physical fitness and dropped him in say 2 months down the line, you're still looking a ways after that until he'd be fully at everyone elses level who'd gone through pre-season and been playing the PL.

That's where we're differing.
 
Last edited:
Scouseinthehouse said:
Oh we know any loan isn't about fitness. That's just club fluff playing the game to keep his name up there for a future sale. He's done here. Don't think you could read the situation any other way.

But Sakho himself is massively behind anyone else right now and is playing catch-up. You really can't understate how important a full pre-season is and even though players are athletes in far better all year round shape today than they every where, 4 months of nothing is a big gap for anyone. Not least someone that often takes longer to get fully back into things. Even on a hypothetical you got him unto a good stage of physical fitness and dropped him in say 2 months down the line, you're still looking a ways after that until he'd be fully at everyone elses level who'd gone through pre-season and been playing the PL.
Click to expand...

Fitness isn't absolute, otherwise players wouldnt come back from injury mid season and be as good as those who havent been injured.

I'd bet money he'd be regularly playing by end october latest if any club was serious about him getting him playing.
 
Well, hopefully for everyones sake he goes somewhere and plays as soon as possible.

Stoke surprises me. I get the drop, but they've really improved under Hughes. And you're not a million miles away from L'pool. Glenn Johnson has never moved, mainly down to his kids being settled in school here, and switches between Stoke and L'pool for example.

That one would of seemed ideal to me but everyones different.
 
Off to see ex Liverpool player (and lifelong fan) Robbie Keane in his last match for Ireland.
Few pints and a burger, then the Aviva.

We are playing Oman, so He should score a farewell goal (or two).
 
Last edited:

Telegraph Football– Verified account ‏@TeleFootball

yH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAANAAwAAAILjI+py+0Po5y0ngIAOw==



Liverpool sell Luis Alberto to Lazio for £4.7m, with 30% sell-on clause #LFC #DeadlineDay [url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/08/31/liverpool-transfer-deadline-day-live-balotelli-in-france-to-comp/ …[/URL]
 
Another great deal to off load Luis Alberto. £4.3 mill. down, plus a further £1.7 million if Lazio qualify for Europe. With a 30% sell-on for added measure. Considering we paid £6.8 million three years ago to Barcelona and he's played a grand total of 12 games for the club, to (hopefully) recoup almost all of it after that depreciation is fantastic.

Would imagine he'll flourish in Italy too. He certainly has the technical ability. Just not physical or big enough to cope the PL. The slower pace, less physical nature of Serie A should suit his skill set great. Certainly be rooting for Lazio to make Europe now this year for that extra £1.7 million haha.

So I make that 12 departures this window for a gross total of £ 72.8 million. With a possible further £13.7 million in add-ons.

Leaving a net profit of £10.9 million on all transfers.

Now to FINALLY rid ourselves of Mario:

Melissa Reddy ‏@MelissaReddy_ 2h2 hours ago
Indications from France that Mario Balotelli has completed his medical check with Nice. Talks continuing with #LFC


Melissa Reddy ‏@MelissaReddy_ 2h2 hours ago
Sticking point: terms of the deal (personal + club to club). #LFC want rid of the striker + no financial obligation. Nice want minimum risk





 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Another great deal to off load Luis Alberto. £4.3 mill. down, plus a further £1.7 million if Lazio qualify for Europe. With a 30% sell-on for added measure. Considering we paid £6.8 million three years ago to Barcelona and he's played a grand total of 12 games for the club, to (hopefully) recoup almost all of it after that depreciation is fantastic.

Would imagine he'll flourish in Italy too. He certainly has the technical ability. Just not physical or big enough to cope the PL. The slower pace, less physical nature of Serie A should suit his skill set great. Certainly be rooting for Lazio to make Europe now this year for that extra £1.7 million haha.

So I make that 12 departures this window for a gross total of £ 72.8 million. With a possible further £13.7 million in add-ons.

Leaving a net profit of £10.9 million on all transfers.

Now to FINALLY rid ourselves of Mario:

Melissa Reddy ‏@MelissaReddy_ 2h2 hours ago
Indications from France that Mario Balotelli has completed his medical check with Nice. Talks continuing with #LFC


Melissa Reddy ‏@MelissaReddy_ 2h2 hours ago
Sticking point: terms of the deal (personal + club to club). #LFC want rid of the striker + no financial obligation. Nice want minimum risk
Click to expand...

It will never happen, but seeing as we have actually made a profit this window, I would love to see us splash on a 'star' next summer... Be a big help if we qualify for the CL, but even if we don't. Pay the wages, pay the fee.

Enough dreaming for one day, though.
 
LFCMarshall said:
It will never happen, but seeing as we have actually made a profit this window, I would love to see us splash on a 'star' next summer... Be a big help if we qualify for the CL, but even if we don't. Pay the wages, pay the fee.

Enough dreaming for one day, though.
Click to expand...
God just imagine prices next Summer : O
 
LFCMarshall said:
It will never happen, but seeing as we have actually made a profit this window, I would love to see us splash on a 'star' next summer... Be a big help if we qualify for the CL, but even if we don't. Pay the wages, pay the fee.

Enough dreaming for one day, though.
Click to expand...

Wonder how much Mane would fetch on the open market next summer? ****, wonder how much more he'd fetch now?

We signed a 'star' and didn't even realise it.
 
Last edited:
Scouseinthehouse said:
Wonder how much Mane would fetch on the open market next summer? ****, wonder how much more he'd fetch now?

We signed a 'star' and didn't even realise it.
Click to expand...

Let's not go overboard just yet... Mane is very much known for having spells, but so far so good.
 
Excellent. Mario FINALLY off the books.

Looks like that's us for the best window we've ever had since transfer windows came into being IMHO, but we'll see if anything else get's taken care of the next 2 and half hours.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Excellent. Mario FINALLY off the books.

Looks like that's us for the best window we've ever had since transfer windows came into being IMHO, but we'll see if anything else get's taken care of the next 2 and half hours.
Click to expand...
No left back though. :@
 
Btw hearing rumours about a protest against FSG at Melwood tonight. Scouse get down there and bash those numpties skulls in. Unless they're protesting about ticket prices then anything else would be downright stupid.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

FMBase

Beta

Resources

Back
Top