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Theatre of dreams said:
Miss Mane so much in attack!
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It's the threat of his pace that you miss.

Mané's been well off it for a month or so. He's not been bad per se and he's still contributing. Just he's not been firing anything like he was earlier in the season.

But that rapid speed always has to be accounted for by the opposition even when he's not terrorising them.

That's the biggest miss when he's not out there.
 
iamauser said:
Such a disappointing game. Guess its no surprise given we are missing our 3 best players (could also argue a case for Firmino not being at 100% with the drink driving and being robbed, thats gotta put up back a fair bit). It was great to Cou back though.
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Forgot to add Matip to this list too
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Hopefully he'll get a run out Plymouth now he's back in full training.
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Browsing the site and saw that we're selling ticket for S'ton game were the away end usually go. Have they shifted them to the other end of Anny road?
 
Tezzz said:
Browsing the site and saw that we're selling ticket for S'ton game were the away end usually go. Have they shifted them to the other end of Anny road?
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Dunno' mate but that wold be a surprising first for a good few years.

After certain elements of their support before and during the game yesterday I'd be happy if none of them came up.
 
damola3 said:
He was a steal. The verticality of his passing is great. Just needs another partner imo. Hopefully he cuts out the mistakes from his Schalke days.
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Is this the new stats buzzword cause if you want vertical passing players look no further than a Tony Pulis team all his players go for very vertical passing
 
damola3 said:
He was a steal. The verticality of his passing is great. Just needs another partner imo. Hopefully he cuts out the mistakes from his Schalke days.
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He has one for the long term:

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Doubtless not upto your 'elite' notion, but more than on that trajectory for ourselves. Personally wouldn't sacrifice him for anyone you could care to mention in World football at the position.
 
ninjaskill said:
Is this the new stats buzzword cause if you want vertical passing players look no further than a Tony Pulis team all his players go for very vertical passing
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Not a stats buzzword. More tactical.
Scouseinthehouse said:
He has one for the long term:

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Doubtless not upto your 'elite' notion, but more than on that trajectory for ourselves. Personally wouldn't sacrifice him for anyone you could care to mention in World football at the position.
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Who's that?
 
Personally, I like a bit of diagonality in my passing verticality, a hint of precisonity is also welcome.
 
damola3 said:
Not a stats buzzword. More tactical.
Who's that?
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So I should say that Pulis' sides play a form of vertical passing instead of long ball to impress people

Take a wild stab at which young Liverpool centre back Scouse thinks will be a starter soon, starts with the man the myth the legend that is, if you need a hint
 
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ninjaskill said:
Take a wild stab at which young Liverpool centre back Scouse thinks will be a starter soon, starts with the man the myth the legend that is, if you need a hint
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I'm genuinely not sure who that is. I'm not taking a stab. Joe Gomez?

I'm very much for young talent. You need the right blend. L'pool may be better served signing someone with experience. Developing young central defenders in the first team is a bad idea for a top club. It isn't worth the hassle. You can start kids out wide but it's hard to mess around with central defenders. If that is Joe Gomez, I'm a big fan. Hopefully he can continue after the ACL.
 
Developing players is only a bad idea if you've no patience and don't believe in your own coaching abilities so need to spend big on the more ready product to compensate.

We have lots of both (although many 'fans' lack the patience bit the manager and club don't) so we're good doing it our way.

Yes. That would be Joe Gomez.
 
ninjaskill said:
..... Take a wild stab at which young Liverpool centre back Scouse thinks will be a starter soon, starts with the man the myth the legend that is, if you need a hint
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*living LEGEND ..... And you had it down SO well the other day darn it.

Book in for more lessons.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
*living LEGEND ..... And you had it down SO well the other day darn it.

Book in for more lessons.
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I've let myself down, I've let this forum down, I've let everyone down I feel so embarrassed. I'll put off returning to university to make sure I get it right next time
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Developing players is only a bad idea if you've no patience and don't believe in your own coaching abilities so need to spend big on the more ready product to compensate.

We have lots of both (although many 'fans' lack the patience bit the manager and club don't) so we're good doing it our way.

Yes. That would be Joe Gomez.
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I didn't say that developing is a bad idea. I'm saying that it's not the greatest idea to start central defenders so early in he development curve. Joe Gomez will probably peak in a decade. Liverpool need the talent now. Look at Joel Matip. Tonnes of experience at 25. There's no way he'd cope at a top club with the number of mistakes he's made over the years. He was known for them as much as his defensive ability. For the past 18 months, he refined himself to one of the finest in Germany.
 
ninjaskill said:
I've let myself down, I've let this forum down, I've let everyone down I feel so embarrassed. I'll put off returning to university to make sure I get it right next time
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This man is a shining example to us all. This is an honest man who cares enough to put his disappointments behind him who strives to study hard, work harder and be the very best he can be.

Just like future LFC and England centre half The Man, The Myth, The Living LEGEND Joe MF Gomez! :P.
 
damola3 said:
I didn't say that developing is a bad idea. I'm saying that it's not the greatest idea to start central defenders so early in he development curve.....
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I said that. You forget Klopp doesn't roll with convention but what he both believes in and gets the most enjoyment out of. As relatively inexperienced as Joe is at the highest level (although he's not looked out of place in any first team game he's played), Matts Hummels was nowhere near as experienced as Gomez is now when he plucked him from Bayern's ressie's for a glaring comparison. That worked out pretty well.

We're good doing it our way and Joe's developing nicely among a good mix in that group of centre backs. If he starts playing more the fitter he gets it'll be for the right reasons for his process.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
I said that. You forget Klopp doesn't roll with convention but what he both believes in and gets the most enjoyment out of. As relatively inexperienced as Joe is at the highest level (although he's not looked out of place in any first team game he's played), Matts Hummels was nowhere near as experienced as Gomez is now when he plucked him from Bayern's ressie's for a glaring comparison. That worked out pretty well.

We're good doing it our way and Joe's developing nicely among a good mix in that group of centre backs. If he starts playing more the fitter he gets it'll be for the right reasons for his process.
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Dortmund were a mid table team who'd just recovered from the verge of bankruptcy.
 
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