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dilakh2 said:
Being replaced by TAA in the now and longterm. No way Clyne is going to play backup, would be in his best interest he left.
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If there's one thing Klopp's learnt/ taken from last year it's having quality depth and rotating the squad. I think the drop off when key injuries hit/ the AFCON shook him. We've seen the heavy rotation already this year and we're only 5 games in.

Clyne is the perfect foil to Trent when you don't need to attack as much and want more defensive solidity. Both offer different outlets tactically. Both will get their share of games. All the players in the squad are fully bought into the project. It's like your fears over Oxlade-Chamberlain. That midfield will rotate a lot and there's the great variety of 7 players now to add to it. Along with him being more than able cover wide.

Until someone starts kicking off, which nobody has to date nor are showing any signs of, even the back end depth fillers; just roll with having the strongest and deepest quality group we've had in a long time.
 
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Here's what I'll never get.

People want a bigger squad with quality depth. Sound. We fell foul of that last season and it was one of the key factors of the summer needs.

But then when you add to that, in the next breath there's this big worry about unhappy players and places being lost. Who's place is this one taking? OMG Can will want out now Keita's here et all. And it's not just you d. It's a common theme among L'pool fans who seem to worry about their side more than anyone. And complete contradictory madness. You need a quality group of 17/ 18 similar level players as your base today and we now have that.

Trent's 18. He's a terrific talent. But he still has a LONG way to go to be first choice over a season. We've a shed load of games. I know you've personally some inane (to me) dislike of Clyne. But he's a solid, reliable FB who'll continue to be a big part of this squad.
 
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Agree with you about squad depth but Im just thinking about it from a players perspective. A manager is always going to have a good idea about who is in his first team. Then will see which player is first choice and which is backup when we see the lineup for a cup game and the lineup for league or european games.
 
Mike. said:
Expg was 3.5. Poor or not, thats seriously unlucky not to win
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You're well into this EGPG analysis, aren't you?

I have a friend who's a regular better who is using it as part of his information now before he lays his bets. Honestly not really looked into it but every extra bit of statistical analysis helps today I guess.
 
Talking of stats, Liverpool are, probably somewhat surprisingly, on their best 38 game rolling run of goals conceded for 4 years. Which coupled with 6 clean sheets out the last 7 league games adds to the steady improvement defensively of the team under Jürgen. Even the massive Achilles heal of defending corners has been promising since the opening day cluster F at Wtaford. 18 faced on the year through 5 games and none conceded since Vicarage Road. Plus we scored from one breaking away ourselves the last game.

Still a ways to go in that regard, as much as we're always liable to give up chances and goals by the very nature of the chances we take the other end/ not playing with a DM protecting et all. But things are certainly trending upward. Interesting that we conceded the exact same amount of goals the second half of last season as the first too. 21 through 19 games. So it was just as much on the down turn in scoring, and more so zero pace once Mané went down, as anything else the second half dip.

Which all makes the Salah and Oxlade-Chamberlain additions as important as the van Dijk pursuit was. Now we have that difference making speed in depth.
 
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Scouseinthehouse said:
Talking of stats, Liverpool are, probably somewhat surprisingly, on their best 38 game rolling run of goals conceded for 4 years. Which coupled with 6 clean sheets out the last 7 league games adds to the steady improvement defensively of the team under Jürgen. Even the massive Achilles heal of defending corners has been promising since the opening day cluster F at Wtaford. 28 faced on the year and none conceded since Vicarage Road.

Still a ways to go in that regard, as much as we're always liable to give up chances and goals by the very nature of the chances we take the other end/ not playing with a DM protecting et all. But things are certainly trending upward. Interesting that we conceded the exact same amount of goals the second half of last season as the first too. 21 through 19 games. So it was just as much on the down turn in scoring, and more so zero pace once Mané went down, as anything else the second half dip.

Which all makes the Salah and Oxlade-Chamberlain additions as important as the van Dijk pursuit was. Now we have that difference making speed in depth.
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Yeah I saw that stat then remembered it carried on from the end of last season when we changed our style of play to be more reserved. Still want to see how we do cleansheet wise in our first 10 games when the style is more gungho. Early days but looking good.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
You're well into this EGPG analysis, aren't you?

I have a friend who's a regular better who is using it as part of his information now before he lays his bets. Honestly not really looked into it but every extra bit of statistical analysis helps today I guess.
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Its not the holy grail, but when you line it up with other stats, it creates a really good picture.
 
dilakh2 said:
Being replaced by TAA in the now and longterm.....
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Interesting to see who plays City and who plays Seville out of Trent and Joe? (Or both games.).

I watched an hour of England 21's 3-0 win over Latvia tonight and the new skipper Gomez was superb in a MOTM performance. (One of only 2 players to play both qualifiers this week.). Trent had a good debut the England U-21's RB. (Ojo also had a very fine debut for the 21's out the right and I believe Dom got on late.). Personally, I wouldn't change the side after Arsenal but I'm not the manager. Shrugs.

Flicked over the hour when Woodburn came on for Wales ..... And there he went again changing the game. Could well have had a penalty on 74 when he was barged over the area. Set up the Welsh first with a great run and cross down the left. Ben Woodburn displaying the only thing he 'doesn't' possess. Next gear pace. Where'd that come from?

https://twitter.com/LFCGlobe/status/905165636632027136

First 2 International appearances in 2 must win WC qualifiers. Both from the bench. 1 Worldie winner and an assist to turn the other game. Not a bad few days for the 17-year-old jewel in the crown.

Talking Internationals, Mo Salah scored the winner for Egypt in their 1-0 win at home to Uganda:

https://twitter.com/LFCFansCorner/status/905133650160865280

And Sadio assisted 1 and scored 1 in Senegal's 2-2 draw in Burkina Faso too:

https://twitter.com/AcademyLFC/status/905138376420065282

https://twitter.com/LFCGlobe/status/905155979439988736

So that's the little rat, Mané, Robertson, Salah, Woodburn and Keita (Guinea were eliminated so he'll be joining from the very start of pre-season next year which is a big bonus) all scored this week with Firmino currently playing Brazil. Not a bad break if they must go play for their Countries.
 
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woodburn going to be a star i have him in every 1 of my fm17 saves even at man u lol
 
kitchin75 said:
woodburn going to be a star i have him in every 1 of my fm17 saves even at man u lol
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Which would be the absolute ideal if you didn't need to spend stupidly to replace Phil at such time as he does leave.

We've 4 or 5 that have every chance of being the backbone going forward. The football clubs flourishing as much as it has at any point the PL era on every level and in every facet.

*Obligatory 'FSG OUT!' Just because it's still a thing apparently.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Which would be the absolute ideal if you didn't need to spend stupidly to replace Phil at such time as he does leave.

We've 4 or 5 that have every chance of being the backbone going forward. The football clubs flourishing as much as it has at any point the PL era on every level and in every facet.

*Obligatory 'FSG OUT!' Just because it's still a thing apparently.
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dont think you need to spend big if phil goes just drop bobby back to where phil playes job done let woodburn grow as you dont play with a out an out st but thats just me what the **** do i know
 
ninjaskill said:
A footballer saying something that will play well with the fans if his new club... knock me down with a feather
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You keep on doing that without having the whole picture.

A footballer deciding he wanted to move to Anfield for his career development back in February .... THAT'S the story you need to tell. He's just reiterating it. However the, let's say, 'misguided' comments on here where deadline day.
 
kitchin75 said:
woodburn going to be a star i have him in every 1 of my fm17 saves even at man u lol
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Figured you'd enjoy that mate. Just because.

[video=youtube;N7hN_DhrSgs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7hN_DhrSgs[/video]

Would imagine it'll be back the 23's against Citeh Sunday for the young stud. Keeping his feet on the ground.
 
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Just as Jose was the man to bring Pogba to another level. Just as Bernardo couldn't refuse to opportunity to work with Pep for similar reasons. Just as every club players join nowadays is the biggest club/one of the biggest in the world. Formality comments. Not saying it's not true, but you'd be naive to believe everything a footballer says. Liverpool is literally the only CL club willing to offer Chamberlain his CM role, if that wide known fact is 'misguided', then I don't know anymore. Klopp improves average players, but that just happens to be a huge bonus to the former factor in his decision, imo
 
RhQQ said:
Just as Jose was the man to bring Pogba to another level. Just as Bernardo couldn't refuse to opportunity to work with Pep for similar reasons. Just as every club players join nowadays is the biggest club/one of the biggest in the world. Formality comments. Not saying it's not true, but you'd be naive to believe everything a footballer says. Liverpool is literally the only CL club willing to offer Chamberlain his CM role, if that wide known fact is 'misguided', then I don't know anymore. Klopp improves average players, but that just happens to be a huge bonus to the former factor in his decision, imo
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Quite. Just find it interesting how we definitely can't take his views over the last two years. But can now. Doesn't add up.
 
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