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Ok you had no issues breaking down deep blocks last season & no concentration issues defensively against them. No issues set-pieces wise either. Anything that criticises Liverpool is lazy.

These reds mean business. Have a good day
 
LOL. Seriously? You resort to a schoolyard, pathetic retort like that when you've no answer than to flippantly throw the standard line? And extrapolate it to L'pool having no problems because someone challenges you on it? How old are we here? 5?

Seriously lad, get a grip. But hey, just for you, I'll go compare the results that you 'CBA' doing.
 
No, it's just like debating with a brick wall when it comes to Liverpool with you. You can debate any other team/league/player/topic barring Liverpool or United with you and you offer good insight, but when it comes to either of these teams, you have massive red blinkers.

Do you honestly not think that small teams realize their best bet to get a positive result against you lot is to come and sit deep, smother the space between the lines, and wait to pounce on the large spaces left by your backline? This and targeting your set piece frailty.

Burnley did it, Hull did it, Southampton done it on a few occasions, etc.

This isn't some media agenda against Liverpool, it's facts
 
No, mores the point as regularly happens you just don't like anything in the positive about Liverpool that ruins whatever lame argument you want to run with. (The recent throwaway jibes 'That all players want to play for Klopp' a prime example. Completely ignoring those that actually outright say it and get mentioned as such to then extrapolating it to everyone!). It's tiresome and very noticeable from you of late. But in your own thread, you let any B/S slide from anyone.

But for the record, Liverpool's record against the bottom 11 sides in the PL last year:

P 22 W 15 D 2 L 5 F 53 A 25

Not sure how they scored 53 times being as they can't break down the lesser sides, and comfortably coped with some of the worst low block/ aerial threat sides like West Brom and Stoke in doing the double over them but yer know? Don't let the facts gert in the way of a good, if wholly misguided, rant.

The splits on that were:-

Home: P 11 W 8 D 1 L 2 F 33 A 12

Away: P 11 W 7 D 1 L 3 F 20 A 13

What people, yourself included as you've already mentioned, remember the most, aside from the TV pundits ramming it down their throats, is 4 of those 7 draws/ loses coming when everything went to **** January and February through various reasons. Not least multiple key injuries hitting and everything rolling from there. Starting January 2 when we drew at Sunderland 2-2 (with a free kick that never was for the equaliser but we'll let that slide) coming less than 24 hours after we played City. Having to put virtually the same side out again at Sunderland as we had little else. That started the mid-season slump. Which then encompassed a 2-3 home reverse against Swansea (who they beat away earlier the year)/ 0-2 reverse at Hull (who they'd walloped 5 at home), and the 1-3 loss at Leicester, off the bounce of City's change of manager to add to the slump, before February was out. (Who, again, they'd walloped 4 in the reverse fixture.).

Those results and performances, whilst no question horrible, where the anomaly's to the rest of the season against those sides outside of four outliers. And they all came through a horrid time on the pitch through the two-month period that cost the season. (Which we can disect if you like as to why but that was done to death the early months of this calendar year.).

The outliers were:-

Losing 2-0 at Burnley 2 games into the season. (Beat them 2-1 the reverse fixture.). A real strange game of football as Liverpool completely dominated. Couldn't score. And 2 defensive mistakes from the only 2 chances Burnley had cost them.

Drawing 2-2 with West Ham at home December. Loris Karius. The final straw before he was hooked. No more needs adding.

Losing 1-2 at home to Palace in April. Shocking, flat, non-performance that got the result it deserved. No denying anything there.

And the 3-4 loss at Bournemouth. Again, another bizarre game of football. Liverpool 3-1 up and having enough chances to win 5 games of football. Then step forward Loris Karius again, along with other individual errors, and 75 minutes perfect away performance turned to **** the last 15 that is all anyone remembers and regularly throws up. Whilst completely negating what went before up until 75.

So no, it's not 'facts.' We no more struggle against the lesser sides than anyone else.

If you want to chat ****, and even worse stand pat when you're pulled on it because you 'CBA' to actually look in depth to what your arguing, go do it with someone who doesn't watch his team up close most every frigging week and knows the actual truth without trying to sell everyone on the laziness thrown out the media who don't like the actual telling of the season getting in the way of their narrative.

If you want to flat out legit critique this side, sound. I do more than my share in here on a regular basis. Arguably far more than any regular poster on any of their own teams. (Which you conveniently ignore when it suits.). But make sure you know what the heck your chatting and have it backed up to how it actually went down.
 
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It's not chatting ****, it's my opinion which I've backed up with some examples. You choose to put it down to "bizarre games", I choose to put it more down to defensive & concentration shortcomings against sides who approach games in a certain way.

Going to the game doesn't make your opinion any more valuable than mine or anyone else's on here, unless it's relating to a specific topic (i.e. off the ball positioning/movement when cameras are ball focusing).
 
Again, you completely disregard everything to the contrary. Ignore the black and white facts and run with 'your opinion' on an opposition side.

Continue blundering on Rh at your leisure. You're patently not interested in anything that goes against the, let's be kind, 'misguided' narrative you're pushing and nothing is changing that so fill your boots.

We'll get back to beating Burnley. Or struggling against another lesser side. Whichever suits your argument.

*Edit* And whilst you're being a complete ******** in trying to infer I was putting myself forward as something more of a fan than anyone else (which is as tawdry and pathetic as it get's. Even from you), yeah, funnily enough, watching games live you don't on my team, being wholly invested in them and not yours puts me in a far better perspective than you could ever wish to have.
 
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I'd expect you to beat Burnley, obviously, what I'm saying is it's an interesting fixture as this type of game proved a banana skin last season on more than one occasion.

Just the same way Old Trafford games against deep blocks interest me too, we slipped up too many times in those type of games.
 
I'll sign out of this thread with this... :P

[video=youtube;3yX_1gJ_51M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yX_1gJ_51M[/video]


Enjoy the weekend's football everyone.
 
After yet another game of heavy rotation I think that's definitive that's the way forward for him this year now the squads the strongest it's been in living memory. If there's one thing that apparently scared the living **** out of him it's the injuries and drop off in quality last year that was SO costly:

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Nice to see Robbo get his second game. The rotation of Trent and Joe makes sense. As does Klaven's strength to deal with Wood this week. Just nuts to play him against City's pace last Sat'day. Having the quality of a fully healthy Daniel Sturridge to step off the bench is fantastic. And as for that little ***** in the 10 shirt ...... You ******* owe us MASSIVELY Phil! Start it here. Today.

Real strong bench to select from too if needed.

Nice to be in the position of squad strength to be able to rotate in confidence.

Let's celebrate these 125 years in style Redmen!
 
LOL. Feel like utter sh*te mate. And all spewed out. Literally. Hopefully a 24-hour thing.

How's the studies going?
Not bad since the year just started so not much work but think that will change soon unfortunately, hope you get over your bug soon
 
Ta mate. Appreciated. Better this weekend then next with an all-day travel Moscow Sunday so there is that. Spewing everywhere a plane wouldn't be good haha.

Keep looking at the end goal. The hard work will all be worth it when you get those quals/ degree. One thing I always regret missing out on. Uni. Through nottin' else but youthful stupidity. Sighs. All wise in hindsight.
 
Who the F is Nick Pope BTW? Heaton injured then?

And mad how they aren't starting the bitter sh*thouse Walters given he often scores against us.

Real ****** ***** that fella'.
 
Very good half that should of lead to leading halftime.

Excellent all over the park up to being just a little more clinical and sharper in front of goal. Burnley score from their only real attack of the half completely against the run of play. Arfield should never have been left unmarked the edge the box. But an immediate hit back from Mo. Dyche being Dyche with at least 7 back all times and just playing for free kicks. Which they've dealt with well.

Keep working at this tempo Reds. Get the second and these will crack. Just need to be clinical and kill them off.
 
Who the F is Nick Pope BTW? Heaton injured then?

And mad how they aren't starting the bitter sh*thouse Walters given he often scores against us.

Real ****** ***** that fella'.

Got a bad shoulder injury and will miss a few months, very big moss for Burnley
 
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