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There's no denying that defensive situation is quite unusual. Every time I've seen a renowned manager take over a new team, defensive organization is the first aspect where they make immediate impact. It's a cliche at this point, top manager arrives, team start looking tighter in the back. Even someone like Guardiola who's made his reputation on attacking football, still went out and replaced entire backline+goalkeeper within two summers after arriving.

Klopp for some reason seems not interested in addressing these concerns.
 
Tyton said:
There's no denying that defensive situation is quite unusual. Every time I've seen a renowned manager take over a new team, defensive organization is the first aspect where they make immediate impact. It's a cliche at this point, top manager arrives, team start looking tighter in the back. Even someone like Guardiola who's made his reputation on attacking football, still went out and replaced entire backline+goalkeeper within two summers after arriving.

Klopp for some reason seems not interested in addressing these concerns.
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If they are truly intent on being elite, they have to fix it
 
Well that's one way to get over the Tottenham debacle.

Watching the ressi's thoroughly lick Utd in what should have been a far bigger scoreline.
 
Mike. said:
If they are truly intent on being elite, they have to fix it
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Yeah and they don't even seem to be trying. It's not just Mignolet thing, his insistence on giving chances to Moreno also made very little sense, although it seems like he's finally seen the light. Then there's the Sakho thing, he was their best defender and it was clear he left because relationship with Klopp broke down. And yeah Sakho is a moron, but everything points that it was just a dumbass mistake and I can't blame him that for wanting, Pool didn't back him at all up during that whole ordeal.
 
Tyton said:
Yeah and they don't even seem to be trying. It's not just Mignolet thing, his insistence on giving chances to Moreno also made very little sense, although it seems like he's finally seen the light. Then there's the Sakho thing, he was their best defender and it was clear he left because relationship with Klopp broke down. And yeah Sakho is a moron, but everything points that it was just a dumbass mistake and I can't blame him that for wanting, Pool didn't back him at all up during that whole ordeal.
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The Sakho thing is funny, because we ripped into him at the time, yet Liverpool fans were defending him and railing against Uefa. Suddenly he's on his way out, and it's like "Yeah he's an idiot get rid"

Either way still havent really sorted the back line.
 
If you're referencing the reactions on here to what he took and the subsequent suspension, Sakho got laid into for his part on these here pages by L'pool fans. And heavily. The 'disagreement's' on here came in the **** poor way UEFA handled it.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
No need to rewrite history on Sakho big Polish fella'.
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I'm not saying he wasn't at fault, but there's no arguing that he was by far your best defender and perhaps Klopp could have done more to fix the situation. Especially since good old Kloppo wasn't exactly pinnacle of professionalism in his playing days.

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First off, Sakho was never 'by far our best defender.' He's as consistently inconsistent (nods to rh) as the rest of them. One week he'd be brilliant. The next two utterly abysmal. Never have and never will understand where this cult following has come from with him?

Secondly, his 'attitude' problems go right back to Paris where they ended up bombing out one of their own, the club captain at that, down to his indiscretions. And it continued at Anfield long before Klopp. Larking about in training. Having a lax attitude to his work. Rodgers wasn't strong enough to stand up to it. The German was.

Thirdly, and related to the above, contrary to what you apparently believe, the club stood completely by him through the doping/ suspension saga. All that was self-inflicted from the man himself. To then have him turn around and come back with the same P poor attitude the summer before last. Initially causing a delay of the flight out to the States due to going home and 'oversleeping' after the Huddersfield friendly when the rest of his teammates stayed together for a meal before the flight. Then missing further meetings/ physio sessions, and acting a complete childish ***** out in America. It was a culmination of a multitude of indiscretions that cost Sakho his Anfield career. After the manager who apparently 'could have done more' had stood by him through his suspension and welcomed him fully back into the fold with a clean slate the following pre-season.

NOBODY is to blame for Sakho not being here other than Sakho himself.

Being a complete disingenuous ____ and celebrating Crystal Palace goals, at Anfield, when he was still under contract as a Liverpool player, made worse by the fact he wasn't even on the pitch but came the touchline to celebrate last season was beyond the final nail in his coffin. If Klopp had brought him back into the group after all of that, and the stance he'd taken, it would have completely undermined his authority within the changies.

Not sure what a photie of Mainz players celebrating has do with anything like but there you go.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
First off, Sakho was never 'by far our best defender.' He's as consistently inconsistent (nods to rh) as the rest of them. One week he'd be brilliant. The next two utterly abysmal. Never have and never will understand where this cult following has come from with him?

Secondly, his 'attitude' problems go right back to Paris where they ended up bombing out one of their own, the club captain at that, down to his indiscretions. And it continued at Anfield long before Klopp. Larking about in training. Having a lax attitude to his work. Rodgers wasn't strong enough to stand up to it. The German was.

Thirdly, and related to the above, contrary to what you apparently believe, the club stood completely by him through the doping/ suspension saga. All that was self-inflicted from the man himself. To then have him turn around and come back with the same P poor attitude the summer before last. Initially causing a delay of the flight out to the States due to going home and 'oversleeping' after the Huddersfield friendly when the rest of his teammates stayed together for a meal before the flight. Then missing further meetings/ physio sessions, and acting a complete childish ***** out in America. It was a culmination of a multitude of indiscretions that cost Sakho his Anfield career. After the manager who apparently 'could have done more' had stood by him through his suspension and welcomed him fully back into the fold with a clean slate the following pre-season.

NOBODY is to blame for Sakho not being here other than Sakho himself.

Being a complete disingenuous ____ and celebrating Crystal Palace goals, at Anfield, when he was still under contract as a Liverpool player, made worse by the fact he wasn't even on the pitch but came the touchline to celebrate last season was beyond the final nail in his coffin. If Klopp had brought him back into the group after all of that, and the stance he'd taken, it would have completely undermined his authority within the changies.

Not sure what a photie of Mainz players celebrating has do with anything like but there you go.
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Inconsistently inconsistent* was your words the other day - Maybe now you get my comment :P
 
Excellent.

Bournemouth won.

Now give them a boss draw. Tuesday live game. And move our game from the ridiculous late KO the Sunday!
 
Brewster with 2 goals so far as u17 lead Brazil in a great open game. 1-3 just scored a third that should seal it :)
 
 
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kitchin75 said:
nice to see another good young un pen a new deal
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Just surprising Ben would commit the next 5 years of his career as apparently, we're back to going nowhere again under Jürgen after Sunday as per every social media/ Internet 'expert' the past few days.

Great to have another big future piece tied down as he continues to develop away from the limelight.

Ben Woodburn signs new long-term Liverpool FC deal - Liverpool FC

Jürgen Klopp: Ben Woodburn has the perfect balance to fulfil his talent - Liverpool FC

'There is a pathway to the first team at Liverpool' - Liverpool FC
 
Stupid red card for Keita against Bayern, Leipzig really looked like they could get something out of the game
 
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